Eph 1:
13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
People become born again of the Holy Spirit AFTER they believe the gospel. God does not save people first.
Again, Calvinists grossly overstate the nature of fallen man.
I think I remember you from bible-discussion.com. You were promoting your Calvinist beliefs there, and would not be persuaded. I'm guessing the same will be true here.
13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
People become born again of the Holy Spirit AFTER they believe the gospel. God does not save people first.
Again, Calvinists grossly overstate the nature of fallen man.
I think I remember you from bible-discussion.com. You were promoting your Calvinist beliefs there, and would not be persuaded. I'm guessing the same will be true here.