Reject Paul and you're no follower of Christ
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Why would anyone not like Paul! He was an amazing follower of Christ with an amazing story!...before becomeing a christian I argued with all kinds of things in the bible...but once you realize Jesus is! and is who He says He is, then you naturally trust His word, because it is part of who He is. Why argue with Perfection? we are the flawed ones, anyone who has truely been saved knows just how true that is.
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Well.... Just as Peter said.
2 Peter 3
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
Untaught and unstable people who twist the Bible do not like Paul.. (According to Peter that is)
2 Peter 3
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
Untaught and unstable people who twist the Bible do not like Paul.. (According to Peter that is)
Let's not forget, Peter was also a liar who denied Yeshua, and was even called "satan" by Yeshua.
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
Um, no. He said that untaught and unstable people twist the Scriptures to their own end. Like when people use Paul to argue for Five-Point Calvinism. Or when they use his prohibitions against female preachers to justify sexism.
These unstable people like Paul's scriptures because it helps them get their way.
These unstable people like Paul's scriptures because it helps them get their way.
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Let's not forget, Peter was also a liar who denied Yeshua, and was even called "satan" by Yeshua.
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
Let's not forget, Peter was also a liar who denied Yeshua, and was even called "satan" by Yeshua.
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
But of course, let's let him be the determining factor on what is Scripture. You guys are looking awesome. Not only can a man be considered Scripture by saying he is, but he can also be confirmed Scripture if a lying, messiah-denying "satan" says so!
G-d is so pleased
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So, at the moment Mobius is unable to respond due to being banned while he was eating dinner. He has, however, assured me that he is working on a response for this thread, and will somehow get it posted for y'all to read.
So, do not think Mobius has simple decided not to respond because he doesn't have a legitimate rebuttal for the arguments made against his beliefs. He does. He just can't post it right now.
So, do not think Mobius has simple decided not to respond because he doesn't have a legitimate rebuttal for the arguments made against his beliefs. He does. He just can't post it right now.
The Jesus of the bible commissioned 12 apostles one of them Peter and also Paul to continue his work and ministry on earth. Deny them, you deny the Christ of the bible. Your Christ or Yeshuah as you call him, Arel, is nothing more than a fictional character of some idealised hero or example of Judaism and high moral standards.
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