Religious bigots and your understanding
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I do not need to assume anything when we are specifically and explicitly told that
the Word (with God from the beginning) was God, took on flesh, and dwelt among us.
To think these verses point to anything or anyone besides Christ is sheer blindness.
He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and the world did
not know Him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
the Word (with God from the beginning) was God, took on flesh, and dwelt among us.
To think these verses point to anything or anyone besides Christ is sheer blindness.
He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and the world did
not know Him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Jesus the son of GOD is distinct from GOD his father but is one with GOD meaning he can do the same things GOD can do, Jesus does his father's will !
Please read the following slowly with an opened mind and heart, if you do not understand, i will comment further.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Peace.
Jesus was likely spiritual , immortal , brightly shining with Glory and at the right hand of GOD , as for the details some of the things of a spiritual nature are not yet revealed to us since we have trouble believing in earthly things as in scripture;
John 3:12;
If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?i
Many things remain a mystery so i will not speculate.
Peace.
I would have to agree with you.
There are some who suggest that the word "bigot" evolved etymologically from "by God". Allegedly, and I wouldn't have a hard time believing this, it was used in a derogatory manner against those who professed to be speaking "by God" or on God's behalf. The primary reason why I don't have a hard time believing this is because I have often been called a bigot for simply speaking God's word to people or for simply speaking "by God".
There are some who suggest that the word "bigot" evolved etymologically from "by God". Allegedly, and I wouldn't have a hard time believing this, it was used in a derogatory manner against those who professed to be speaking "by God" or on God's behalf. The primary reason why I don't have a hard time believing this is because I have often been called a bigot for simply speaking God's word to people or for simply speaking "by God".
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took me a minute to find this and i did actually think you were originally using this:
JW 1984 Revision:
while we wait for the happy hope+ and glorious+ manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus,
jw 2013 Revision:
while we wait for the happy hope+ and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ,
JW 1984 Revision:
while we wait for the happy hope+ and glorious+ manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus,
jw 2013 Revision:
while we wait for the happy hope+ and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ,
This is where I struggle to fully understand the trinity.
We see after the resurrection Jesus is clearly defined as being there in spirit and sitting next to God.
In John he is defined as being with God but in no detail before his incarnation.
Obviously this is why you say he was likely there with him in the same way he was after and before and after the resurrection.
But if scripture say the father is mightier how could they be truly equal.
We see after the resurrection Jesus is clearly defined as being there in spirit and sitting next to God.
In John he is defined as being with God but in no detail before his incarnation.
Obviously this is why you say he was likely there with him in the same way he was after and before and after the resurrection.
But if scripture say the father is mightier how could they be truly equal.
just wondering, Who, do you think this is Wrestling with Jacob, whom Jacob later calls God.
but God would need to be in human form to wrestle, one would think?
until the breaking of day. Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was out of joint as He wrestled with him. . . . And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”
Then Jacob asked, saying, “Tell me Your name, I pray.”
And He said, “Why is it that you ask about My name?” And He blessed him there. So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
but God would need to be in human form to wrestle, one would think?
until the breaking of day. Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was out of joint as He wrestled with him. . . . And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”
Then Jacob asked, saying, “Tell me Your name, I pray.”
And He said, “Why is it that you ask about My name?” And He blessed him there. So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
Magenta it seems you are using a different translation not KJV
Can you stick to KJV for the purposes of this thread like I asked the others?
Then everyone will, if they are reading the same version, come to the same conclusion right?
If we all want to use another version of the Bible, how bout we make another thread. So its not confusing for anybody.
Can you stick to KJV for the purposes of this thread like I asked the others?
Then everyone will, if they are reading the same version, come to the same conclusion right?
If we all want to use another version of the Bible, how bout we make another thread. So its not confusing for anybody.
I can't see this request being met.
We have to check the KJV with the Greek and the Hebrew.
Then we also have to check the old t with the Hebrew cannon.
The if we go into it further we see added words to KJV that are not in the Greek or the Hebrew.
Ummm nope whilst the idea is nice.
Even if the KJV is agreed upon for the preferred choice.
We may all read from it,
But all singing from the same translation 😋
Well I may ask do pigs fly.🤔
We have to check the KJV with the Greek and the Hebrew.
Then we also have to check the old t with the Hebrew cannon.
The if we go into it further we see added words to KJV that are not in the Greek or the Hebrew.
Ummm nope whilst the idea is nice.
Even if the KJV is agreed upon for the preferred choice.
We may all read from it,
But all singing from the same translation 😋
Well I may ask do pigs fly.🤔