Repent and be baptized, every one of you

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mailmandan

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No the purpose of Paul's message to the Corinthians was to underline the fact that he [Paul] was not their Lord for folks were saying they were followers of Paul. You are trying to get lordship over people with this doctrine. You want people to say I am a disciple of Wansvic.
Acts 20:28 - Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
 

JaumeJ

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I did now "know" but I suspected that you would claim a supernatural source for your perception.

Thanks for the honest answer.
I would love to know just how you derived your comment from my post. It is really a reach to insult another, I believe.
 

Lamar

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I would love to know just how you derived your comment from my post. It is really a reach to insult another, I believe.
What did I write that insulted you?
 

Lamar

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You are in serious error, not because you advocate water baptism, I advocate water baptism but because you assign to it salvation properties. I HAVE to question your own salvation.

Baptismal regeneration is not a new doctrine. It is what opened the door to professional clergy, priests etc at the turn of the 1st century and gave rise to the Roman Catholic Church.
It is you who is in serious error. Simply put, you are attempting to make null and void the words of Peter on the purpose of water baptism. Peter is clearly tying this act of obedience to the moment of remission of sins. You are misappropriating that moment to fit your false theology.

You cannot see this because of your faith alone regeneration theology blinders. It is this theology that leads people into a faith without obedience. A dead faith spoken of in James 2. A faith that mocks the very words of Jesus.

Again, a faith without obedience is a dead faith.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Another one who does not dig deep into what Peter actually said.

its sad
 

JaumeJ

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It is you who is in serious error. Simply put, you are attempting to make null and void the words of Peter on the purpose of water baptism. Peter is clearly tying this act of obedience to the moment of remission of sins. You are misappropriating that moment to fit your false theology.

You cannot see this because of your faith alone regeneration theology blinders. It is this theology that leads people into a faith without obedience. A dead faith spoken of in James 2. A faith that mocks the very words of Jesus.

Again, a faith without obedience is a dead faith.
You seem to have put yourself up on a bar as a judge. You must judge with right judgment never by personal feelings or appearances.
 
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Or you could interpret Peter to be saying "seeing Cornelius has received the precious part, having the Holy Spirit, salvation. how can we refuse him the lesser part, the form or rite."
the point is

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

could include being baptized in the future for all we know, which God can foresee and respond to.


further, God could have also simply took an exception for Cornelius, as He has with King Hezekiah and Eli the prophet, if Peter would not have baptized Cornelius otherwise even though, for most people, they'd need to repent and be baptized.

Acts 10

45All the circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were astounded that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and exalting God.
Then Peter said, 47“Can anyone withhold the water to baptize these people? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have!”


therefore "Cornelius = baptism is unnecessary" is invalid
 

Lamar

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You seem to have put yourself up on a bar as a judge. You must judge with right judgment never by personal feelings or appearances.
You label me as a "judge"???

Are you so blind as to not see your many judgements on others in your own posts?

Are you really this blind?
 

Pilgrimshope

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Up to this point I entirely agree with you. You ask why in the world would anybody not wish to be water baptised? When it was said to me "Jesus Himself was baptised ... don't you want to follow the Lord?" I asked where's the water?

Paul speaks about what water baptism signifies, I cannot think that Paul thought of it as part of the salvation process for he himself did not baptise, and we have his oh so simple saving formula which he gave to the jailer "believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy household."

Keep it simple, Get the folks saved, then we can tell them about water baptism and everything else. And baptism is such a joyful occasion ... I LOVE baptism services. keep it joyful, let's not make it onerous.

Why do folks want to enforce things that are meant to make us free indeed? what's their motive?
arhats my point exactly you just went in an irrelevant circle of reason and what you think , I’m only talking about what Jesus the lord said about salvstion and said applies to every creature

and my point is this is what the lord of all creation said to all creation and it will always be the same

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You see how simple my point is ? Why is there any reason for me to now say hmmm I wonder if what Jesus says is actually true ? Maybr I should try to find a teacher to explain that I don’t need to hear and believe what he said ? Maybe I should just claim it’s another person trying to enforce some “ man made rule of being dunked in water “ if someone mentions baptism ?

But no it’s established by God almighty for remission of sins is my point . Why would I then say “water baptism “ is this or that ?

It was before Jesus died

and after when he filled them with the Holy Ghost at pentocost like John said he would it’s still the same baptism for remission of sins it will never change.

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( John the Baptist said this also before Christ died )

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. ( baptism for remission of sins receiving holy ghost like Jesus said is for all people of the world )

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

….praising God, and having favour with all the people.

And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39, 41-42, 47‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they added to the church like this

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest (whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved ) with all thine heart, thou mayest.

And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It doesn’t matter if it’s gentiles they get baptized in his name for remission of sins d receive the Holy Ghost also same gospel for everyone

“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Im a believer of Gods word why after I hear him speak would I then look for another answer ? Why do I then need to try to figure out why I don’t really need to do what he said will save me ????

There is no reason it’s to reject it it’s very clearly established in scripture faith isn’t a replacement for what god said to do and be saved it’s when you hear and believe his word

It’s really though a circle I e done this many times baotism is just baptism there’s one baptism there’s what we do and what Jesus does



We hear and believe the gospel and get baptized for remission of sins in Jesus name that’s what God said for us believers to do it’s an act of faith it’s no different than this

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt. And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

whoever believes the real gospel and is baptized shall be saved now again though there’s no place that says “ a believer who isn’t yet baptized is lost or rejected “

people need to just read and learn what the scriptures actually say about baptism themselves not just one Paul verse then a mule explanation of what it “ really means “ but do a comprehensive study about baptism in scripture anyone who’s willing to do that will get baptized gladly and will rejoice knowing what they know and have accomplished by faith and the promise that he made according to it

But some people will not hear it nor have it , which is every man’s choice I won’t explain why Jesus words aren’t true s d eternal ever I’ll just believe them and share that thought with others that they too should hear and believe the things Jesus taught because

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus said to get baptized in his name and the apostles explained what it’s for especially Paul he wrote chapters about it’s application and meaning to us

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a you see what they did steering in acts chapter 2 baotism for remission was always be of the foret actions commanded and done before and after the cross , my own point is just that there’s absolutely no grounds or reason for us to try to remove baptism for remission of sins god doesn’t speak constrary thkngs like that he doesn’t say go baptize everyone in my name for remission of sins and whoever believes and is baptized will be saved ….and the. Later say we’ll never mind read Joseph prince he’ll explain the real truth in the year 2000

the gospel is eternal and can’t change it’s the same salvation for everyone alive we have to accept it as is and not try to re invent anything or remove anything just be believers who hear and believe the gospel and then actually follow where that faith leads us for a simple example it will lead us to get baptized asap just from learning what the Bible actually teaches about it

a lot of people already know that’s why they went and got baptized
 

JaumeJ

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You label me as a "judge"???

Are you so blind as to not see your many judgements on others in your own posts?

Are you really this blind?
Thank you for confirming your understanding. Now, try to be kind, even to those whom you have deemed your enemies. tHERE WILL BE GREAT REWARD.
 

Wansvic

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No the purpose of Paul's message to the Corinthians was to underline the fact that he [Paul] was not their Lord for folks were saying they were followers of Paul. You are trying to get lordship over people with this doctrine. You want people to say I am a disciple of Wansvic.
Now that's a hateful accusation. I plant and/or water seeds of God's word with the hope that in doing so people will receive the increase of revelation from God. Every one's focus should be on Jesus and Him crucified. It is through trust in Him and obedience to His word that bring about the saving of souls.

"Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase." 1 Cor. 3:5-7

It is my sincere prayer that you shall indeed receive the increase that only God can give.
 

Wansvic

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the point is

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

could include being baptized in the future for all we know, which God can foresee and respond to.


further, God could have also simply took an exception for Cornelius, as He has with King Hezekiah and Eli the prophet, if Peter would not have baptized Cornelius otherwise even though, for most people, they'd need to repent and be baptized.

Acts 10

45All the circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were astounded that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and exalting God.
Then Peter said, 47“Can anyone withhold the water to baptize these people? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have!”


therefore "Cornelius = baptism is unnecessary" is invalid
Also relevant to the experience in Acts 10 is the exchange about it between Peter and the Jews in Acts 11. Peter said who was I to withstand God AFTER seeing Cornelius and the others receive the Holy Ghost as well as we. (verse 17) Peter commanded Cornelius and others to submit to water baptism in the name of the Lord immediately AFTER they were indwelt by the Holy Ghost. (Acts 10:47-48) Peter's comment to the Jews indicates that neglecting to command obedience to water baptism would be to withstand the purposes of God. It was after Peter's explanation concerning Acts 10:43-48 that the Jews said that what occurred was proof that God had to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. (verse 18)

"And he (Cornelius) shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." Acts 11:13-18
 

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arhats my point exactly you just went in an irrelevant circle of reason and what you think , I’m only talking about what Jesus the lord said about salvstion and said applies to every creature

and my point is this is what the lord of all creation said to all creation and it will always be the same

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You see how simple my point is ? Why is there any reason for me to now say hmmm I wonder if what Jesus says is actually true ? Maybr I should try to find a teacher to explain that I don’t need to hear and believe what he said ? Maybe I should just claim it’s another person trying to enforce some “ man made rule of being dunked in water “ if someone mentions baptism ?

But no it’s established by God almighty for remission of sins is my point . Why would I then say “water baptism “ is this or that ?

It was before Jesus died

and after when he filled them with the Holy Ghost at pentocost like John said he would it’s still the same baptism for remission of sins it will never change.

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( John the Baptist said this also before Christ died )

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. ( baptism for remission of sins receiving holy ghost like Jesus said is for all people of the world )

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

….praising God, and having favour with all the people.

And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39, 41-42, 47‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they added to the church like this

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest (whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved ) with all thine heart, thou mayest.

And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It doesn’t matter if it’s gentiles they get baptized in his name for remission of sins d receive the Holy Ghost also same gospel for everyone

“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Im a believer of Gods word why after I hear him speak would I then look for another answer ? Why do I then need to try to figure out why I don’t really need to do what he said will save me ????

There is no reason it’s to reject it it’s very clearly established in scripture faith isn’t a replacement for what god said to do and be saved it’s when you hear and believe his word

It’s really though a circle I e done this many times baotism is just baptism there’s one baptism there’s what we do and what Jesus does



We hear and believe the gospel and get baptized for remission of sins in Jesus name that’s what God said for us believers to do it’s an act of faith it’s no different than this

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt. And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

whoever believes the real gospel and is baptized shall be saved now again though there’s no place that says “ a believer who isn’t yet baptized is lost or rejected “

people need to just read and learn what the scriptures actually say about baptism themselves not just one Paul verse then a mule explanation of what it “ really means “ but do a comprehensive study about baptism in scripture anyone who’s willing to do that will get baptized gladly and will rejoice knowing what they know and have accomplished by faith and the promise that he made according to it

But some people will not hear it nor have it , which is every man’s choice I won’t explain why Jesus words aren’t true s d eternal ever I’ll just believe them and share that thought with others that they too should hear and believe the things Jesus taught because

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus said to get baptized in his name and the apostles explained what it’s for especially Paul he wrote chapters about it’s application and meaning to us

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a you see what they did steering in acts chapter 2 baotism for remission was always be of the foret actions commanded and done before and after the cross , my own point is just that there’s absolutely no grounds or reason for us to try to remove baptism for remission of sins god doesn’t speak constrary thkngs like that he doesn’t say go baptize everyone in my name for remission of sins and whoever believes and is baptized will be saved ….and the. Later say we’ll never mind read Joseph prince he’ll explain the real truth in the year 2000

the gospel is eternal and can’t change it’s the same salvation for everyone alive we have to accept it as is and not try to re invent anything or remove anything just be believers who hear and believe the gospel and then actually follow where that faith leads us for a simple example it will lead us to get baptized asap just from learning what the Bible actually teaches about it

a lot of people already know that’s why they went and got baptized
... did you ever hear the term hyper? you know what it means, when somebody takes a doctrine or an aspect of doctrine and puts more emphasis upon it than it warrants or even a false emphasis.

To say that water baptism saves or washes away sins is untrue. It is proven untrue by the great multitude of people who we know and witness have been saved and filled with the Holy Ghost but have not been water baptised. Again we know a great multitude who have been water baptised but we cannot discern that they have been saved.

Then there are the pseudo baptists who merely sprinkle babies and call that baptism. For almost 1400 years that is all the baptism that was practised in the church.

I believe in water baptism as shown in the bible as you do but I am not going to threaten somebody with damnation because they are not baptised.
 

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#76
the point is

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

could include being baptized in the future for all we know, which God can foresee and respond to.


further, God could have also simply took an exception for Cornelius, as He has with King Hezekiah and Eli the prophet, if Peter would not have baptized Cornelius otherwise even though, for most people, they'd need to repent and be baptized.

Acts 10

45All the circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were astounded that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and exalting God.
Then Peter said, 47“Can anyone withhold the water to baptize these people? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have!”


therefore "Cornelius = baptism is unnecessary" is invalid
And I think differently I think God stopped Peter preaching baptism as necessary to salvation.

I think it is right to be baptised, and since open confession of our faith is necessary baptism is an excellent way to make public confession that we have become followers of Jesus.
 

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#77
It is you who is in serious error. Simply put, you are attempting to make null and void the words of Peter on the purpose of water baptism. Peter is clearly tying this act of obedience to the moment of remission of sins. You are misappropriating that moment to fit your false theology.

You cannot see this because of your faith alone regeneration theology blinders. It is this theology that leads people into a faith without obedience. A dead faith spoken of in James 2. A faith that mocks the very words of Jesus.

Again, a faith without obedience is a dead faith.
There are too many examples in scripture where people received forgiveness before baptism. And there are MILLIONS of witnesses in church history.

I received forgiveness the washing away of sin and the Gift of the Holy Spirit 6 weeks before I was baptised.

What I refuse to do is lord it over somebody elses faith.
 

Evmur

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#78
Acts 20:28 - Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
Yea and baptism will be the thin edge of the wedge like it was at the beginning of Catholicism .... other must do sacraments and rituals will follow.
 

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... did you see that "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned"

He does not say "he that believeth not AND IS NOT BAPTISED" God does not omit that part by accident.
I do not want to discuss baptism or not, but it saying does not believe shall be damned does not have to include not baptized for if they do not believe it is a guarantee they will not be baptized because they do not believe.

Saying does not believe shall be damned is a guarantee they will not be baptized, and they will not confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, for they do not believe.

If the Bible says the person that does not believe the word of God is not saved does not also have to say, and does not confess Christ, and does not get baptized, and does not believe this or that concerning the Bible, and does not do this or that according to the Bible.

Because it is a guarantee they will not believe, and do those things, for they do not believe the Bible.

If I say I do not like to exercise I do not have to include and lifting weights, and jumping rope, and running, for it is unnecessary for I do not like to exercise.

This is an example for I do like to exercise in case someone says oh that dude does not like to exercise the bum.

Well you know how some people are liking to belittle people and Christian Chat rooms are no exception.

I am being kind of sarcastic only because some people that claim to be a Christian do like to belittle people.

It is unnecessary to say not baptized for it is a guarantee they will not get baptized because they do not believe.

If I say I do not like dairy I do not have to say and milk, and cheese, and yogurt, for that is unnecessary.

But I do like dairy in case someone says oh that dude does not like dairy what is wrong with his head, lol.
 

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Acts 10​
37You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.

39We are witnesses of all that He did, both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And although they put Him to death by hanging Him on a tree, 40God raised Him up on the third day and caused Him to be seen— 41not by all the people, but by the witnesses God had chosen beforehand, by us who ate and drank with Him after He rose from the dead. 42And He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that He is the One appointed by God to judge the living and the dead. 43All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.”


This^ is the truth.



We must receive the Holy Spirit
Romans 8
9You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.


And therefore we must repent
Acts 8:20
21You have no part or share in our ministry, because your heart is not right before God.

Acts 26:20
First to those in Damascus and Jerusalem, then to everyone in the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I declared that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds worthy of their repentance.


and be baptized in His name after we repent
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.



Such as the Jews who were cut to the heart were at Pentecost, etc. rather than getting baptized while still unrepentant of drug use, lusting, etc. (sin) as we often are.

Some dispute Acts 2:38 partly because of Cornelius receiving the Holy Spirit in Acts 10 before being baptized, assuming that Cornelius would have received the Holy Spirit even if he did not get baptized shortly after receiving the Holy Spirit. However, Cornelius' blessing may have been in response to his baptism becoming God's (in bold)

Isaiah 10:

10I declare the end from the beginning,

and ancient times from what is still to come.

I say, ‘My purpose will stand,

and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’


after Cornelius and his family heard the Gospel for some special reason (to show Peter and the world His love for the Gentiles?), which does not in itself take away the importance of baptism, while waiting until after hands were laid on people e.g. here


Acts 8:
14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.


(which is an interesting circumstance for faith alone doctrine) And here


Acts 19:
4Paul explained: “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”


5On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7There were about twelve men in all.


and perhaps in your own life. Also note that in Acts 19, those that were baptized were already baptized into the Baptism of John who taught repentance with his baptisms, countering the idea that they didn't repent before they were baptized. Cornelius, as well, showed signs of repentance in Acts 10:31


Another objection to Acts 2:38 are verses that teach justification upon belief, however belief is used synonymously with obedience in Hebrews 3:18-19 and faith alone is refuted in James 2:23-24, which does not conflict with Acts 2:38.


Through baptism is also how we are (in bold)

Romans 6:
4We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life.


Resulting in being

Romans 6:
5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. 6We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that should no longer be slaves to sin. 7For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

which is my own personal testimony:

I was addicted to porn very badly, as well as addicted to alcohol, lust in general, I was an instigator, tried pills, gossiped, sex before marriage, etc.
Eventually I began to feel bad about the porn and did believe God raised Jesus from the dead, but I was still very much in sin. In 2014, however, I had a very disturbing experience where man did not seem to have an answer, and I repented, and was soon after baptized. Since 2014, no alcohol (other than accidentally tasting my sister's jello shot in the fridge once), no sex, no porn, etc. If I something that should not be in me is made known, now I can stop it before it becomes a practice thanks to The Lord Jesus Christ.


which doesn't mean that I cannot choose to practice what these two apostles did, for example, here

Just for clarification for you regarding Cornelius in Acts 10, below is a copy of a previous post which should help you understand Acts 10 as well as Acts 2. Also, for clarification, you must understand the difference in receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost and what it means as opposed to the gifts of the spirit, those listed in 1Cor 12:8-10.

Notice in Acts 2:38 it says "and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost". It says "gift", singular not plural. It doesn't says ' gifts' or a gift', but THE GIFT. this means the Spirit itself and not one of the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit, one of it's gifts as aforementioned mentioned. This is important when trying to understand the subject of spiritual gifts, which most people don't, further leading them astray to adopt false doctrines.

REPOST

You're not understanding what occurred in Caesarea and why the Spirit became manifested in the manner it did and prior to the laying on of an apostle's hands as was necessary in all other recorded events other than Acts 2 where the Spirit fell similarly but on the apostles. In both cases, both of which were unique and not the norm, it was a heavenly sign to validate what was taking place. In Jerusalem it ultimately ushered in the church amongst the Jews, and likewise in Caesarea, it ultimately resulted in the church being established amongst the Gentiles. All other times wherein the manifestation of the Spirit occurred producing one or more of the gifts (so-called) as listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, it was subsequent to and the result of the laying on of the apostle's hands.