Replacement theology.

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Chill, you are always jumping into silly conclusions.

I am saying if you are a Jew who live during the ot, animal sacrifice was all you had for your sins. You offer animal sacrifice for your sins until you die, you are placed in paradise then.
You’re right because doing those things IS believing God and believing God is counted as righteousness.

It’s the same for us today all we have to do is believe God and it will be counted to us as righteousness.
 
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I'm so blessed to see this topic growing . Replacement theology is such a dangerous belief and needs to be addressed.
Why would anyone think that the Lord would replace the 3 witnesses of his name....the law,...the prophets , the word.
I haven't seen anyone on this thread who came remotely close to saying the Lord would replace the law, the prophets and the word with anything.
 

luigi

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As usual, you got this from “reading between the lines” of scripture correct?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted scriptures to support my position, which are very simple logic to follow and understand.
There is no reading in between the lines of the resurrection of many of the saints after the Lord's resurrection, thereby indicating their having been saved while the Lord was there with them for three days and nights.
 
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? I posted scriptures to support my position, which are very simple logic to follow and understand.
There is no reading in between the lines of the resurrection of many of the saints after the Lord's resurrection, thereby indicating their having been saved while the Lord was there with them for three days and nights.
Where is the scripture?
 
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You’re right because doing those things IS believing God and believing God is counted as righteousness.

It’s the same for us today all we have to do is believe God and it will be counted to us as righteousness.
Yes, God commanded animal sacrifices for Israel sins in time past. Jews who obeyed God instructions there and then, showed their faith in him.

But now, he commands us to work not, but believe in Christ work on the cross. We likewise show our faith to him by obeying that (Romans 4:5)
 
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People read between the lines.

Abraham was saved by believing God and it was counted to him as righteousness.


The Jews were saved by believing God and it was counted to them as righteousness.

We are saved by believing God and it was counted to us as righteousness.
Every group throughout history have been given THEIR THING to believe.

The Jews weren’t told to do what God told Abraham to do, we are not told to what the Jews were told to do.
 

luigi

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Where is the scripture?
You are being deliberately obtuse. I posted Matthew 27:51-53 which shows those who are resurrected following the Lord's three days of interment. If you cannot put a very basic 1+1 together, then I'm afraid that there is very little more I can do here. Here it is again below, just in case you missed it the first time. Did you miss the one about what true sacrifice to the Lord is also?

Matthew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
 
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Do you guys realize that the Covenant of Grace was given BEFORE the Old covenant and the Old Covenant DID NOT override the Covenant of grace?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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The bible contains the absolute truth and all arguments here would disappear if everybody would just believe the bible exactly as it's written.
As long as we allegorise Canaan & everything the prophets have written concerning the land of Israel, Jacob, & The Gentiles though eh?

At least we are in agreement about the absolute truth of the Bible.
 
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As long as we allegorise Canaan & everything the prophets have written concerning the land of Israel, Jacob, & The Gentiles though eh?

At least we are in agreement about the absolute truth of the Bible.
Allegory's are found throughout the bible and there's no doubt that Canaan is used as an allegory. 12 spies went out to see if the land could be conquered. The TEN said that it was impossible to enter the promised land. The TWO reported heck yeah we can posses it. That's an allegory teaching that it's impossible to enter the REAL promised land (heavenly Jerusalem) by keeping the law.

Canaan was a real land that God gave the Jews of that time but it wasn't the land that God promised to Abraham.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Allegory's are found throughout the bible and there's no doubt that Canaan is used as an allegory. 12 spies went out to see if the land could be conquered. The TEN said that it was impossible to enter the promised land. The TWO reported heck yeah we can posses it. That's an allegory teaching that it's impossible to enter the REAL promised land (heavenly Jerusalem) by keeping the law.

Canaan was a real land that God gave the Jews of that time but it wasn't the land that God promised to Abraham.
I'm not putting forth an argument that there aren't any allegories in the Bible.
Don't fail to understand that it's very common for one passage of text to be BOTH allegory & literal.

And don't miss the important point that the New Jerusalem will come out of heaven AFTER the old heavens & earth have passed away. The old order of things will pass away. We are still living in the present age.
 
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I'm not putting forth an argument that there aren't any allegories in the Bible.
Don't fail to understand that it's very common for one passage of text to be BOTH allegory & literal.

And don't miss the important point that the New Jerusalem will come out of heaven AFTER the old heavens & earth have passed away. The old order of things will pass away. We are still living in the present age.
I disagree and this is ONE of the reasons I disagree.

Rev_3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
He that overcometh is a PILLAR in the temple of God. We know just from that Heavenly Jerusalem is not a physical temple.

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Peter tells us that Heavenly Jerusalem is a SPIRITUAL HOUSE.

This is just one line of proof that Heavenly Jerusalem has ALREADY come down and we should be living in it right now.
 

pottersclay

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I haven't seen anyone on this thread who came remotely close to saying the Lord would replace the law, the prophets and the word with anything.
Well my friend if you believe that the church supersedes Israel in any way that's what it entails.

You seem to be closed minded to the truth.....really. Ought to reexamine your position.
 
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Chill, you are always jumping into silly conclusions.

I am saying if you are a Jew who live during the ot, animal sacrifice was all you had for your sins. You offer animal sacrifice for your sins until you die, you are placed in paradise then.
Chill? Conclusions?

You just proved my conclusions were correct. So you chill my friend

David when repenting if his sin stated. Sacrifice and burnt offerings you did not desire (speaking to God). The author of Hebrews stated the blood of bulls and goats has never taken away sin
he also stated the priests year after year
continue on and doing the very thing which could Never save anyone
face it man. Your wrong. No one was ever saved by the law and no one ever will be saved by law

Tell me to chill. Ha.
 
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I'm so blessed to see this topic growing . Replacement theology is such a dangerous belief and needs to be addressed.
Why would anyone think that the Lord would replace the 3 witnesses of his name....the law,...the prophets , the word.
What gets me are those who claim it is new jerusalem

Yet the Only passages we keep posting show it was the Jerusalem that was laid to ruins. Was destroyed was plundered. And that it is rebuilt

How this some how is a description of new jerusalem boggles my
Mind
 
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Well my friend if you believe that the church supersedes Israel in any way that's what it entails.

You seem to be closed minded to the truth.....really. Ought to reexamine your position.
He is one who thinks abrahams covenant only concerns salvation to all people
as long as he thinks this he will continue to Miss prophetic truth
 

Journeyman

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I haven't seen anyone on this thread who came remotely close to saying the Lord would replace the law, the prophets and the word with anything.
Right, because there is no such thing as "replacement theology". Believers have always been God's chosen people.
 
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Right, because there is no such thing as "replacement theology". Believers have always been God's chosen people.
And you would think that shouldn't have to be debated.
 
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It’s not debated
what’s being debated is does God keep his promises to all people.