Replacement theology.

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Lol

when they resort to that argument, its a prety much slam dunk they have nothing else to offer, they have hit a brick wall. So out comes the “strawman”

what they mean to say is I am 100% infalible, if you would believe me,you would believe the Bible
What I meant to say was what I said. The bible says what it means and means what it says and if everybody would submit to that authority we would all be in agreement.
 
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So what I think you are saying is that God wants us to tend to flocks of people to be saved?
No

what I am saying is David was saved as a teenager, and God let the world know when he proclaimed he was a man after his own heart. Because God knew him
 

luigi

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Again, can you show me where it says this In scripture?

if you can’t that’s fine, we will just agree to disagree, but please, show me
You are making the superficial error of looking at the physical while omitting the Spiritual.
I showed you with the example of the priest the rabbi and the Samaritan who were not true spiritual Jews and who was the true spiritual Jew. The Gentiles, like the Samaritan, who have not the law, but perform the law, being been born of God, are true Jews.


Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

If the Gentiles who have not the law (Judaism), do by nature the things contained in the law, are they still Gentiles having not the law within themselves?
 

luigi

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No

what I am saying is David was saved as a teenager, and God let the world know when he proclaimed he was a man after his own heart. Because God knew him
David was not ultimately saved as a teenager.
Salvation means to be saved from something. There are two choices in a man's life, we either gravitate towards the flesh, or we repent of our carnal inclinations and accept the Lord's sacrifice which frees us from the bondage to sin we had prior to accepting Christ, .
David made the carnal error of coveting Bathsheba, of which he would later repent spiritually, and gravitate towards the spirit away from the flesh.
 

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What I meant to say was what I said. The bible says what it means and means what it says and if everybody would submit to that authority we would all be in agreement.
Agreed, so when you do, let us know.
 
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You are making the superficial error of looking at the physical while omitting the Spiritual.
I showed you with the example of the priest the rabbi and the Samaritan who were not true spiritual Jews and who was the true spiritual Jew. The Gentiles, like the Samaritan, who have not the law, but perform the law, being been born of God, are true Jews.


Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

If the Gentiles who have not the law (Judaism), do by nature the things contained in the law, are they still Gentiles having not the law within themselves?
I see nothing scriptural here. And I have never heard this before which is why I asked
it’s ok. I just wanted to see where it cam from
 
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David was not ultimately saved as a teenager.
Salvation means to be saved from something. There are two choices in a man's life, we either gravitate towards the flesh, or we repent of our carnal inclinations and accept the Lord's sacrifice which frees us from the bondage to sin we had prior to accepting Christ, .
David made the carnal error of coveting Bathsheba, of which he would later repent spiritually, and gravitate towards the spirit away from the flesh.
Yes David was saved. He was saved the same way you and were by faith
he was saved from the penalty period f sin
 
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Agreed, so when you do, let us know.
I believe that the children of the flesh are not the children of God and they are not the chosen seed. What say you?

Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
 

luigi

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Yes David was saved. He was saved the same way you and were by faith
he was saved from the penalty period f sin
Those saved from sin are they who want to be saved from sin, not they who choose to be conformed to the world.
 
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Those saved from sin are they who want to be saved from sin, not they who choose to be conformed to the world.
I think since God himself said David was a man after his heart that Gid knew him personally and David also knew God personally as a teenager
 

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I think since God himself said David was a man after his heart that Gid knew him personally and David also knew God personally as a teenager
Yes, the Lord knew David personally as a teenager. The Lord also knew David before he was born, as the Lord also knows all that are His before they were born.
 

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That’s one of the promises given to abraham, and we all are “blessed“ because of it

i stick to that too

but I am not gonna make God a liar by sayin this other promise, which he called eternal, is no longer valid, or was not promise at all, just a parable
Race isn't the basis of any promise, even when mixed with faith. If there is any difference within the body of Christ, it will be due to faithfulness, not race.
 
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Race isn't the basis of any promise, even when mixed with faith. If there is any difference within the body of Christ, it will be due to faithfulness, not race.
The promise given to the one child has nothing to do with the body of Christ, we have established that truth
 

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The promise given to the one child has nothing to do with the body of Christ, we have established that truth
The One child is Christ

The LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your seed I will give this land.” Gen.12:7

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.Gal.3:16

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal.3:29

No need to explain further.
 
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The One child is Christ

The LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your seed I will give this land.” Gen.12:7

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.Gal.3:16

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal.3:29

No need to explain further.
Christ is promised the earth and all who
Come to him

Not just a tiny plot of land in no the middle east

You have not explained anything
 

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Unto Christ will I give this land Gen.12:7

we are.....joint-heirs with Christ Rom.8:16-17

Sometimes people just can't say they're wrong.
 
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I'm glad to see your perspective that God who is love did not provide Himself to anyone prior to Christ's sacrifice in order for people to love their neighbor as themselves.

So the greatest commandment that God wants us to do, you say is impossible to do. Your logic is counterintuitive, making God incapable of having what He wants in us to be.


Genesis 5:29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.
You have to read between the lines to make an educated assessment of an individual's character. Noah who would comfort the people concerning the toil of their hands, would have preached good news, which he would have done so by the Lord/love.

Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
A man who is just with his neighbors, loves his neighbor.
God did provide the system of animal sacrifices for Israel, to cover their sins. You missed that?

As for Noah, if you want to insert your own "reading between the lines" in scripture to convince yourself that Noah did fulfill the 2 greatest commandments as stated by Jesus to the lawyer, that is your choice.
 
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Unto Christ will I give this land Gen.12:7

we are.....joint-heirs with Christ Rom.8:16-17

Sometimes people just can't say they're wrong.
You are basically claiming that
  1. The Body of Christ is always meant to be Israel.
  2. The land that was promised refers to Heavenly Jerusalem.
Therefore, you believe that promise was fulfilled.

Am I correct?