Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

[Ted01]

Dispensationalism is bulldookey because Psalms 111:7-8 KJV plainly tells the Christian that the commandments God wrote with His own hands "stand fast forever and ever" and is why it will ALWAYS be wrong to worship other Gods before God, steal, lie, commit adultery, etc.

If you disagree, tell me which of the Ten Commandments are we now free to disobey?

Hello again...

Well, I do disagree that we're still under the Old Covenant in any way. I also disagree that Pslm. 111: 7-8 is specifically speaking about the 10 Commandments... it's discussing all of God's handiwork and all His precepts.

I've no idea how or why you've brought Dispensationalism into this? Very confusing.

Equally confusing, is why are you flipping this back onto me, when it was your assertion that my personal beliefs were "wrong"? If we disagree on a matter, we can discuss things civilly and not in a manner that's hostile. Declaring me automatically "wrong" (and implying that your personal opinion is "more correct") at the outset isn't a polite way to begin a conversation, IMHO. Infact, with me... it's the beginning of the end of a conversation.

Nevertheless, like I said earlier, I don't think that we're under the Law anymore, but as Paul said, the Law is our tutor now as we're under Christ our Lord.
Jesus' blood atonement and being our propitiation is how we receive pardon even if we do break one or more of the 10 Commandments, (when we confess).

Anyway, I know that I'm comfortable in my beliefs - I also believe that you're comfortable with your own, and I respect that.
Since I don't receive instruction/condemnation from folks I don't know... I suggest that we just leave off this "conversation" and agree to disagree.

I am sorry if I've offended you somehow.
God Bless...

 

[Inquisitor]

FreeGrace2 said:
It isn't even possible for any Christian to NOT be a Christian. Your question is rather bogus.

Once a Christian, always a Christian. Whether one acts like it or not.

The verse shows that believers who don't obey God's commands are out of fellowship and they are not being cleansed of their sins, according to 1 John 1:9.

I see what you mean. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.

When a person is saved, that is a permanent RELATIONSHIP with God through His Son Jesus. The Bible describes this RELATIONSHIP in 2 ways that humans can easily relate to.

Parent-child. God is our Father, and we are His children. No argument.

The human parent-child relationship is permanent. Cannot be broken. Likewise the spiritual relationship with God.

Or, marriage. That, in God's economy, is a PERMANENT relationship. Or should be. It was from the beginning.

Jesus Christ is the Groom, and we are His Bride.

Now, in both of these, the relationship is permanent. However, "fellowship" refers to the condition or state of that permanent relationship.

so, in the parent-child relationship, is it always butterflies and roses? Or is there conflict, etc at times, or even most of the time?



Kinda long, but I hope I've been more clear.

Yes, your post was almost a book in itself.

You stated

Now, in both of these, the relationship is permanent.

Not according to John.

You seem to have missed what John was declaring in this first letter.

The following verses are conditional declarations.

1 John 1:97
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

IF we walk in the light...forgiveness!

1 John 2:5-6
But whoever follows His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says that he remains in Him ought, himself also, walk just as He walked.

Whoever FOLLOWS His word...remains in Him!

1 John 2:24
As for you, see that what you heard from the beginning remains in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.

IF what you heard (gospel) from the beginning remains in you...you also will remain in the Son!

John is not talking about works establishing our salvation. John is declaring what faith in Jesus means. An active faith is the true faith.

One can never fall away from that faith in Jesus, IF one has an active faith in Jesus.

One more time.

1 John 1:97
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

 

[Inquisitor]

Glad we agree on this, Inquisitor.



Disagree. Verse 5 shows the Woman is the Mother of Christ, not the Bride of Christ.

"5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne."

This is clearly Christ, and the Woman has given birth to Him. Christ is called her Child, and as in Psa 2:9, rules the nations with an iron sceptre. Did the Church give birth to Jesus? The Church is His Bride, not His Mother.

Rev 12:17 also goes together with Gen 3:15:

"17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. "

Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

Anyway, back on topic, here is another verse about rewards in Heaven for good works done with faith in Christ.

"Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving." (Col 3:23-24)

God Bless.

What is the moon under that woman's feet?

There are four possible options for the identity of the woman in Revelation 12.

1) Old covenant Israel
2) New covenant Israel
3) The Church
4) Mary

Your interpretation fails in the following verses.

Revelation 12:5-6
And she gave birth to a Son, a male, who is going to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for 1,260 days.

Jesus had ascended, then the woman (the church) fled into the wilderness.

Mary did not flee into the wilderness after Jesus ascended, the church fled into the wilderness.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Yes, your post was almost a book in itself.

Sorry for the length, but you wanted clarification. I hope it was helpful.

Anything you didn't understand or disagreed with?

I stated in regard to the parent-child and marriage relationship:
"Now, in both of these, the relationship is permanent."

Not according to John.

Please prove that a child or parent can remove the DNA proof that makes the relationship permanent.

Or, how about this? Can a person be re-born from other parents?

Regarding marriage, this is what Jesus said about it:
Matt 19:3-6
Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Then this follows: v.7-9
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

You seem to have missed what John was declaring in this first letter.
The following verses are conditional declarations.

1 John 1:97
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

IF we walk in the light...forgiveness!

1 John 2:5-6
But whoever follows His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says that he remains in Him ought, himself also, walk just as He walked.

Whoever FOLLOWS His word...remains in Him!

Didn't miss this at all. What do you think "remains IN Him" refers to? That is key.

Recall what Jesus told the 11 disciples in John 15-
4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

Bolded words show the RECIPROCAL action between Jesus and disciple. This speaks of fellowship between Jesus and disciple.

Blue words speak of being out of fellowship.

If you think that 'remain in Me' refers to salvation, then Jesus is telling His disciples to save themselves by THEMSELVES remaining in Him. But that is impossible. What a disciple CAN do is restore fellowship through confession of sin.

1 John 2:24
As for you, see that what you heard from the beginning remains in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.

IF what you heard (gospel) from the beginning remains in you...you also will remain in the Son!

John was speaking about fellowship, which the believer is responsible for. When a believer sins, it is their responsibility to confess their sins and restore fellowship.

John is not talking about works establishing our salvation. John is declaring what faith in Jesus means. An active faith is the true faith.

No. Faith in Jesus is saving faith in Jesus. Works are commanded to follow. Works are not automatic or guaranteed.

One can never fall away from that faith in Jesus, IF one has an active faith in Jesus.

Right.

One more time.

1 John 1:97
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

This is what I was talking about in my last book, I mean, post. When we sin, we need to be cleansed of what offends God, which is unconfessed sin.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Why do you think I forgot the warning about false prophets??


Yes, it WAS an occurrence in the first century. Peter wrote about it.


That precisely WHY every believer needs to fully understand God's Word, and therefore be prepared with truth.


Satan has been deceiving the world since Eve. There's nothing new here.


The revealed Christ in the Word of God. The One who is God's very Son, the Messiah. That one.


Those who earnestly seek, will find. The Bible says so.

There has been deception all throughout history, but the specific kind of deception being marketed in the name of Jesus? That's a modern phenomenon. As a matter of fact, in the early days the church was not even known as Christians, but people of the WAY. Satan changed strategy when he realized he couldn't keep pushing the beach ball under water forever.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

If you disagree, tell me which of the Ten Commandments are we now free to disobey?

Sabbath is mostly disregarded, compared to the other nine.

 

[Inquisitor]

Dispensationalism is bulldookey because Psalms 111:7-8 KJV plainly tells the Christian that the commandments God wrote with His own hands "stand fast forever and ever" and is why it will ALWAYS be wrong to worship other Gods before God, steal, lie, commit adultery, etc.

If you disagree, tell me which of the Ten Commandments are we now free to disobey?

Your proclaiming the law.

Not once in the New Testament is the phrase, 'ten commandments', even mentioned, by the way.

Sin is also transgression of the law according to John.

The law is 613 laws plus the law given within the prophets.

If you are under the law, then you cannot transgress any of the law of Moses.

You can't go through life obeying one law and breaking ten other laws.

You need to decide whether you are under the law or not.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Your proclaiming the law.

Not once in the New Testament is the phrase, 'ten commandments', even mentioned, by the way.

Sin is also transgression of the law according to John.

The law is 613 laws plus the law given within the prophets.

If you are under the law, then you cannot transgress any of the law of Moses.

You can't go through life obeying one law and breaking ten other laws.

You need to decide whether you are under the law or not.

Jesus came to fulfill the law instead of abolishing it. He even declared that till heaven and earth have passed away, not a tittle of the law shall pass away - that "tittle" is referring to "yod" that looks like a single quotation mark, the smallest letter in Hebrew alphabet. What He came to debunk was the man made traditions, the "fences" that rabbis built around the Torah laws to prevent accidental violation of the laws. And these "fences" toally bummed out. What was God's approach? A new covenant, with the laws written in the heart of every believer:

"I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” (Jer. 31:33-34)

 

[Inquisitor]

Sorry for the length, but you wanted clarification. I hope it was helpful.

Anything you didn't understand or disagreed with?

I stated in regard to the parent-child and marriage relationship:
"Now, in both of these, the relationship is permanent."


Please prove that a child or parent can remove the DNA proof that makes the relationship permanent.

Or, how about this? Can a person be re-born from other parents?

Regarding marriage, this is what Jesus said about it:
Matt 19:3-6
Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Then this follows: v.7-9
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”


Didn't miss this at all. What do you think "remains IN Him" refers to? That is key.

Recall what Jesus told the 11 disciples in John 15-
4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

Bolded words show the RECIPROCAL action between Jesus and disciple. This speaks of fellowship between Jesus and disciple.

Blue words speak of being out of fellowship.

If you think that 'remain in Me' refers to salvation, then Jesus is telling His disciples to save themselves by THEMSELVES remaining in Him. But that is impossible. What a disciple CAN do is restore fellowship through confession of sin.


John was speaking about fellowship, which the believer is responsible for. When a believer sins, it is their responsibility to confess their sins and restore fellowship.


No. Faith in Jesus is saving faith in Jesus. Works are commanded to follow. Works are not automatic or guaranteed.


Right.


This is what I was talking about in my last book, I mean, post. When we sin, we need to be cleansed of what offends God, which is unconfessed sin.

You are not accurate in your post.

Here is an example.

John was speaking about fellowship, which the believer is responsible for. When a believer sins, it is their responsibility to confess their sins and restore fellowship.

That is not what John said.

Read it again.

1 John 1:9
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

If we walk in the light, we have fellowship and the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.

Your saying that when we sin, confess the unconfessed sin and restore fellowship?

What?

That's not what John was saying.

Here is another verse that is easy to understand.

6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.

If you are out of fellowship with other Christians, then you wither and are burnt.

You do not need a degree in theology to understand that.

Who can remove you from the Fathers hand?

You can by not walking in the light.

 

[Inquisitor]

Jesus came to fulfill the law instead of abolishing it. He even declared that till heaven and earth have passed away, not a tittle of the law shall pass away - that "tittle" is referring to "yod" that looks like a single quotation mark, the smallest letter in Hebrew alphabet. What He came to debunk was the man made traditions, the "fences" that rabbis built around the Torah laws to prevent accidental violation of the laws. And these "fences" toally bummed out. What was God's approach? A new covenant, with the laws written in the heart of every believer:

"I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” (Jer. 31:33-34)

Oh I understand that completely. I am under grace and not under the law, or part thereof.

 

[Goliath]

Sabbath is mostly disregarded, compared to the other nine.

I have always found it interesting, how people believe they are keeping this commandment....by attending Church. More interesting is the fact that there are churches which are founded upon this very commandment, and they don't even keep it....in the manner in which it was prescribed by God.

Remember the Sabbath...and keep it Holy.
Folks...if you have received the gift of Gods Holy Spirit...you are being made Holy...So for you...everyday is the Sabbath!
Don't believe me?
I don't blame you...but have you ever wondered why God deals with you differently with a certain sin, differently than he does with all the others?
Here's why......But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you and which ye have from God, and that ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
(1 Corinthians 6:17-20)

 

[Goliath]

Jesus came to fulfill the law instead of abolishing it. He even declared that till heaven and earth have passed away, not a tittle of the law shall pass away - that "tittle" is referring to "yod" that looks like a single quotation mark, the smallest letter in Hebrew alphabet. What He came to debunk was the man made traditions, the "fences" that rabbis built around the Torah laws to prevent accidental violation of the laws. And these "fences" toally bummed out. What was God's approach? A new covenant, with the laws written in the heart of every believer:

"I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” (Jer. 31:33-34)

Exactly!!....and what are those Laws?
Jesus called them talents, in his (Matthew 25:14-30) parable. Also known as Good Works..and acts of Righteousness.
Remember that little phrase, in the Lords Prayer,....."On Earth as it is in Heaven"?
In heaven, the angels are Gods servants...On earth...those who call Jesus, 'Lord,'Lord,...are Gods servants.
Now how do we serve God here on earth?
When a hungry child prays for food...God doesn't strap a backpack full of food on an angel..and send him to earth. No..he puts that commandment in the heart and mind of one of his servants.
And what shall be the reward, for those who obey these commands written on our hearts?
......God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
(Romans 2:6-7)

 

[FreeGrace2]

There has been deception all throughout history, but the specific kind of deception being marketed in the name of Jesus?

Not a question. A reality, sadly.

That's a modern phenomenon. As a matter of fact, in the early days the church was not even known as Christians, but people of the WAY. Satan changed strategy when he realized he couldn't keep pushing the beach ball under water forever.

He has been a liar and deceiver from the beginning. The best, in fact.

 

[FreeGrace2]

You are not accurate in your post.

You will need to prove that.

Here is an example.
I said:
"John was speaking about fellowship, which the believer is responsible for. When a believer sins, it is their responsibility to confess their sins and restore fellowship."

That is not what John said.

Read it again.

1 John 1:9
But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

If we walk in the light, we have fellowship and the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.

However, you quoted the verse WRONG. I says "if we confess our sins". Read it again.

Your saying that when we sin, confess the unconfessed sin and restore fellowship?

I'll tell you the same thing. Read it again. Note the conditional "if". John said plainly that IF IF IF believers "walk in the light, believers HAVE FELLOWSHIP and CLEANSING from His Son." That is exactly what I said. So my post IS accurate.

What?

That's not what John was saying.

It is exactly what I and John said.

Here is another verse that is easy to understand.

6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.

If you are out of fellowship with other Christians, then you wither and are burnt.

You do not need a degree in theology to understand that.

And that is what I've been saying.

Who can remove you from the Fathers hand?{/QUOTE]
Jesus said, and I quote, "no one". Which means, of course, no person.

So, the only question is this: are YOU a person? So even YOU cannot remove YOU from God's hand.

You can by not walking in the light.

No, recipients of eternal life cannot remove themselves from God's hand.

What you seem to be confused about is the idea that a believer CAN remove themselves from God's hand by their own actions, such as Not walking in the light.

And John was very clear in v.9 about being IN fellowship when we confess our sins.

Read it again.

 

[Inquisitor]

You will need to prove that.

Are you saying someone whom is chosen by God cannot escape God's hand?

God elects regardless of what anyone may decide themselves. You can even hate God but if your elect, too bad, your saved no matter what?

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
You will need to prove that.

Are you saying someone whom is chosen by God cannot escape God's hand?

God elects regardless of what anyone may decide themselves. You can even hate God but if your elect, too bad, your saved no matter what?

Questions do not equate to a proof for anything. Can you prove your statement or not?

But, regarding your 2 questions, do you understand the biblical doctrine of election? It is NOT about salvation, as calvinists claim.

It is about service. In EVERY verse where the goal or purpose of election is stated, it is ALWAYS to service.

Here are examples of who has been elected.

1. Jesus Christ chosen as Messiah Isa 42:1
2. the nation of Israel chosen as God's people Amos 3:2
3. angels 1 Tim 5:21
4. church age believers Eph 1:4
5. the 12 disciples including Judas John 6;70,71
6. Paul Acts 9:15

Consider this extremely clear passage:

1 Cor 1:27,28
27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are,

All of this is about service, and NONE of this is about being chosen for salvation.

Regarding your first question, John 10:28 says "no one can snatch them (believers) out of God's hand."

The words "no one" means "no person". It DOESN'T mean "no OTHER PERSON", to be clear.

So, "no one" actually includes the believer himself.

Any one who can snatch themself out of God's hand would mean they are stronger than God. Is that your position?

 

[arthurfleminger]

Are you saying someone whom is chosen by God cannot escape God's hand?

God elects regardless of what anyone may decide themselves. You can even hate God but if your elect, too bad, your saved no matter what?

When God made us in His image, He gave us the gift of 'free will'. This gift of free will allows each of us to reject God and His love in entirety, any time we choose to do so. It wasn't God's will that Judas despaired and hung himself from a tree, but God respected Judas' free will to do so. God respected the Prodigal Son's free will to leave Him for the things of the world. God never pleaded with the son to stay. God let him go.

And God greatly respect our free will to stay with Him or abandon Him. If any of us ends up in hell, it won't be God's will, instead it will be because that is what we chose.

God gave us a free will to choose for or against Him. When you choose, keep your eyes wide open and your mind clear.
You will be faced with many choices in your life, salvation or damnation, God or Satan, evil or good. When you choose, reach out for what you choose. For sure, you will receive what you choose.

You always have the choice of leaving God any time you want.

 

[arthurfleminger]

When God made us in His image, He gave us the gift of 'free will'. This gift of free will allows each of us to reject God and His love in entirety, any time we choose to do so. It wasn't God's will that Judas despaired and hung himself from a tree, but God respected Judas' free will to do so. God respected the Prodigal Son's free will to leave Him for the things of the world. God never pleaded with the son to stay. God let him go.

And God greatly respect our free will to stay with Him or abandon Him. If any of us ends up in hell, it won't be God's will, instead it will be because that is what we chose.

God gave us a free will to choose for or against Him. When you choose, keep your eyes wide open and your mind clear.
You will be faced with many choices in your life, salvation or damnation, God or Satan, evil or good. When you choose, reach out for what you choose. For sure, you will receive what you choose.

You always have the choice of leaving God any time you want.

God respects your free will so much that He'll allow you to leave Him, His love and salvation, if that is what you choose to do. And God won't plead with you to stay. As much as He loves you, he'll let you go if that's what you choose to do.

 

[Inquisitor]

You will need to prove that.

Your saying that John in his first letter (chapters 1,2,3) is talking about fellowship.

If you read the first three chapters, over and over again, you will notice something much higher.

Jesus was the light of the world.

We are to walk in that light, in fact, we are commanded to walk in that light.

1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He remains in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Fellowship is merely when believers gather together.

Love is the true light that shone in the world and the only time it ever did. Was when Jesus walked the earth.

If you do not remain in Jesus you are lost (see the first commandment).

 

[Inquisitor]

When God made us in His image, He gave us the gift of 'free will'. This gift of free will allows each of us to reject God and His love in entirety, any time we choose to do so. It wasn't God's will that Judas despaired and hung himself from a tree, but God respected Judas' free will to do so. God respected the Prodigal Son's free will to leave Him for the things of the world. God never pleaded with the son to stay. God let him go.

And God greatly respect our free will to stay with Him or abandon Him. If any of us ends up in hell, it won't be God's will, instead it will be because that is what we chose.

God gave us a free will to choose for or against Him. When you choose, keep your eyes wide open and your mind clear.
You will be faced with many choices in your life, salvation or damnation, God or Satan, evil or good. When you choose, reach out for what you choose. For sure, you will receive what you choose.

You always have the choice of leaving God any time you want.

I agree with the last line you wrote.

Disagree with the idea that we have a freewill.

We are a bent, twisted people, driven by our passions and desires, self obsessed, vengeful, hateful, ungrateful, etc.

We never, ever make freewill choices. We choose what we always would choose every time.

Very few choose Jesus and that's because they are not free to choose. They would rather listen to the devil than an evangelist.

That's the truth.