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Problem with that for me is that we are talking about the marriage of the Lamb which occurs AFTER the GT/DotL...
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
The resurrection occurs at His coming...
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
This is described as the time of the last trump...
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The last trump does not sound at the beginning of the GT/DotL.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
The resurrection occurs at His coming...
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
This is described as the time of the last trump...
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The last trump does not sound at the beginning of the GT/DotL.
You are contradicting yourself........you are one minute applying the word ALL to those who get the MARK and then using bait and switch methods to apply the word ALL to the saints...the word ALL is not applied unto the saints....so you need to make up your mind and LIKE EG said....if God KILLS everyone who has the MARK which HE DOES and ALL of the SAINTS who refuse the mark are KILLED and all of the rest of the saints are resurrected/changed then WHO IS LEFT....your theology lacks credence..........
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You omitted the part that you can not explain. And still omit. All believers die in the gt for refusing the mark. This is a fact and you ,i suppose, will continue to omit it.
It even says it was given to him (the ac) power to overcome the saints.
You really do have a problem with those veses. Just this dimension alone rips the heart out of postrib rapture.
It even says it was given to him (the ac) power to overcome the saints.
You really do have a problem with those veses. Just this dimension alone rips the heart out of postrib rapture.
Keep going to seed on this as I don't care.....I have addressed this, EG has addressed this, John is addressing this and you still argue moot points while refusing to acknowledge anything that anyone of us has said.........so.......until you have something constructive and that merits attention..........
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I mean post trib rapture in view of a mid or pre trib.
if God raptures us all post trib, no one is left on earth. Considering the saved are the only people who will enter the kingdom period. (he who endures to the end) if God raptures them all and gives them all their glorified bodies and rewards. then no one is left.
if God raptures us all post trib, no one is left on earth. Considering the saved are the only people who will enter the kingdom period. (he who endures to the end) if God raptures them all and gives them all their glorified bodies and rewards. then no one is left.
Does it not say that Israel in the flesh will go all the way through in the flesh and then repopulates the waste cities of Israel during the 1000 year reign? So I take it like the following....
1. All who take the mark are killed in God's wrath
2. Israel goes thru in the flesh and repopulates the waste cities of Israel and maybe the planet
3. The saved in Christ are resurrected/changed and taken out while the wrath is being poured out
4. God protects Israel during the wrath as it is directed at all of the nations that have been gathered against Israel
1. All who take the mark are killed in God's wrath
2. Israel goes thru in the flesh and repopulates the waste cities of Israel and maybe the planet
3. The saved in Christ are resurrected/changed and taken out while the wrath is being poured out
4. God protects Israel during the wrath as it is directed at all of the nations that have been gathered against Israel
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I already know you believe all is not all .
Here are those verses you are prohibited from reading for some bizarre reason
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.... and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed................16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Now,ask yourself,why do postribs not know such a basic thing as this?
Here are those verses you are prohibited from reading for some bizarre reason
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.... and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed................16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Now,ask yourself,why do postribs not know such a basic thing as this?
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1. Many in israel will be saved, in fact, it says they all will be saved, so you would have them being raptured also (I am not of the belief saved isreal will nto be raptured, when it happens, all saved jew or gentile will be raptured)
2. Saved gentiles will enter the kingdom also. For scripture is clear. people from the nations who came up against isreal will be in aww of what God does for them, and come up year to year to worship the king.
So if they are all raptured at the end of tribulation. who is left? Since it is clear both saved Isreal and Saved Gentile will go into the kingdom, and live under the reign of Christ.