Sabbath: The Lord's Day

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Laodicea

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Yes, but when did He say that He has made the sabbath holy? I don't find that verse in the NT that He has made the Sabbath holy and we have to keep it.

Genesis 2:3 KJV
(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

There is no verse in all the Bible that says He has taken away His blessing from the 7th day sabbath therefore it remains.
 
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Did I ever say that I am without sin?
Your empty threats will not intimidate me. Don't you even try that.
I never have an Idol but you have the idol of Saturday as the sabbath day when no where in the scriptures does it say that Saturday is the sabbath.
No you did not even show me one direct verse in the NT, which commands the gentiles to keep the sabbath in flesh. Don't lie.
If you use the scriptures to accuse someone, then you bring Christ's acts to defend yourself, why can't I do that?

No you have your own strange doctrine. I received from above. I don't care whether you agree or not. I am not here to change you.
I didn't see you shutting me down with God's word here except of quoting an irrelevant verse for me about Idols from Ezekiel. If you really want to shut me down then just show one direct verse in the NT where it commands the gentiles to keep the sabbath. That's it. I'll not ask of you anything more. Can you?

Acts 13
42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
 
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Revelation 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

that ever lasting Gospel is the bible which includes the TEN COMMANDMENTS

that gospel is everlasting God's word has been around forever.
 
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1 Peter 4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

there was no New testament written when this was said by Peter

the Gospel is the OT

people who don't obey the sabbath day which is part of the Gospel of God will receive judgement first


1 Peter 1:25
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

the OT was preached unto the people Peter was addressing here

hear these words, hear this Gospel

Genesis 2:3 KJV
(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.




 
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to the gentiles who have understanding

listen to what Paul says here
Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God

the household of God and the saints keep and kept the sabbath day

the citizen in God's city kept the sabbath day
a fellow citizen in God's house will keep the sabbath day

in God's house the sabbath day is the day to keep holy.

lets understand the bible even though the key word you look for is not int he verse

get understanding

watch this

Isaiah 56:7
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.


Mark 11:17
And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Jesus house is for all people and Jesus house of prayer will have the sabbath day as the day of worship


the den of thieves who think they changed God's Holy day is wrong

so ask yourself what day will Jesus have holy and sanctified in his city and his house?

easy answer

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever

:)
 
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Liar. That includes saturday as well.
you said you worship the Lord every day

how am I a liar you said it and you admit it here

you don't worship the Lord anyday because you worship him in vain

you cant buy or sell, lite a fire, cook, do any work, go to the store, or do your pleasure,

are you God now?
 
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the angels kept the sabbath
the Patriarch kept the sabbath
the Israelites kept the sabbath
the strangers kept the sabbath
the apostles kept the sabbath
the gentiles kept the sabbath


listen to what JUDE has written here

Jude 1:3
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.


the sabbath day is a common part of salvation

watch this servants of God who obey the word of God

Matthew 19:16-17

QUESTION
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?


answer

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments


salvation and eternal life is the same thing
 
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John 10:14
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Exodus 31:13
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

we hear you Jesus, we know you Jesus, as you sanctify us as you did your sabbath day at the creation.

Genesis 2:3 KJV
(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


Malachi 1:6
A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?


Father Jesus we will keep your sabbath in your house of prayer for this is the law we obey in your house.


 
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unto the children of Israel. is that you?
galatians 5:18. But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.
have a nice day
 
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it was spoken to a jew under jewish law3. how does that affect you. ythe law wasnt given to you. and the law never promised salvation. just blessings and curses. hebrews makes it very clear, just as galatians we must not go back to the old covenant. and mixing covenants is not recommended in the parable of the wineskins...
have a great day. romans 14:5,6 allows you to keep a day holy, doesnt mean you should impose the old covenant on people.
 
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it was spoken to a jew under jewish law3. how does that affect you. ythe law wasnt given to you. and the law never promised salvation. just blessings and curses. hebrews makes it very clear, just as galatians we must not go back to the old covenant. and mixing covenants is not recommended in the parable of the wineskins...
have a great day. romans 14:5,6 allows you to keep a day holy, doesnt mean you should impose the old covenant on people.
stand fast brother.
don't give them an inch.
paul CURSED those who brought in that doctrine.
good job.
 
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17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments


uh. really.
you should read that passage in context.
stop overturning what it means.


why is this open judaizer permitted to keep injecting deadly leaven?
 
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Revelation 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

that ever lasting Gospel is the bible which includes the TEN COMMANDMENTS

that gospel is everlasting God's word has been around forever.
what a blasphemer.
the Gospel is Christ Crucified and raised for the justification of the unjust.
God's gift.

nothing to do with the ministry of DEATH you preach.
Jesus REBUKE YOU.
 

JaumeJ

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It seems some folks are attempting to whip brethren into a frenzy against the Word as taught by Jesus, Yeshua. No one is going to heaven by being under the curse of the laws given by Moses for no man can abide by them, only did Jesus, Yeshua, do this, and He did this for all who accept Him.

Please let no man call His teachings a lie when He teaches in the Word that we must obey the commandments of Yahweh, God. Do not confuse the ceremonial and punitive laws with the two great laws of Love which will NEVER be rescinded, if you do, you have chosen to throw love out of the spiritual house, and without love, faith and hope are to no avail.

Do not give an inch to darkness and hatred.
It is wonderful to be grafted into the natural Olive Tree by the Father Himself. Some of the natural branches were removed that we may be grafted in. The warning is, think not if Yahweh, God, spared not the natural branches that the same will not happen to you should you lord it over the natural Olive Tree. Beware of blind hatred, it is darkness.
 
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unto the children of Israel. is that you?
galatians 5:18. But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.
have a nice day
What spirit is Paul talking about?

What law is Paul talking about?

Let's read verse 16-17

Galatians 5:16-17 (KJV)
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. [17] For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

How do we walk in the spirit?

And if we walk in the spirit what law are we not under?
 
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what a blasphemer.
the Gospel is Christ Crucified and raised for the justification of the unjust.
God's gift.

nothing to do with the ministry of DEATH you preach.
Jesus REBUKE YOU.
C

You want the Lord to rebuke me for telling people to keep the commandments

Are you suggesting that the gospel is not the OT

Let's read Jesus words where he tells us where to read about him

Your emotion has gotten the best of you

Let's read

John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Seeing that there was no NT written what was the Gospel at that time
 
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It seems some folks are attempting to whip brethren into a frenzy against the Word as taught by Jesus, Yeshua. No one is going to heaven by being under the curse of the laws given by Moses for no man can abide by them, only did Jesus, Yeshua, do this, and He did this for all who accept Him.

Please let no man call His teachings a lie when He teaches in the Word that we must obey the commandments of Yahweh, God. Do not confuse the ceremonial and punitive laws with the two great laws of Love which will NEVER be rescinded, if you do, you have chosen to throw love out of the spiritual house, and without love, faith and hope are to no avail.

Do not give an inch to darkness and hatred.
It is wonderful to be grafted into the natural Olive Tree by the Father Himself. Some of the natural branches were removed that we may be grafted in. The warning is, think not if Yahweh, God, spared not the natural branches that the same will not happen to you should you lord it over the natural Olive Tree. Beware of blind hatred, it is darkness.
Emotions is what Satan use to confuse people, think about it for someone to say the commandments are death lack understanding

The Lord had Paul write that the commandments were ordained to life

Romans 7:10-12 (KJV)
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. [11] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me . [12] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Is the commandments life as Paul says or is it death as Cennala says

When the commandments were broken what was the next step before Jesus came

Animal sacrifice

What if you did not have animals to sacrifice ?

You were still in your sins

Now that Jesus has come and shed his blood what if you sin

You ask forgiveness

What if you don't ask forgiveness for some reason or another, like some here
Who don't believe the commandments are still valid

It's simple, they don't repent because they believe there is no law to be broken

They are still in there sins

We read that Abraham kept the commandments

Genesis 26:5 (KJV)
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

It can be done

We read that Noah and Job was called perfect

Genesis 6:9 (KJV)
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Job 1:1 (KJV)
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Genesis 17:1 (KJV)
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Why are these men called perfect by the Lord
 
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uh. really.
you should read that passage in context.
stop overturning what it means.


why is this open judaizer permitted to keep injecting deadly leaven?
C

Let's read it in context
Matthew 19:17-22 (KJV)
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is , God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. [18] He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, [19] Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [20] The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? [21] Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. [22] But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

C

Still te question was asked as answered

Question
what must I do to get eternal life?

Answer
If you want to enter into life
Keep the commandments

what is a judahizer?

Is this another concocted word from your denomination?
 
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what a blasphemer.
the Gospel is Christ Crucified and raised for the justification of the unjust.
God's gift.

nothing to do with the ministry of DEATH you preach.
Jesus REBUKE YOU.
Which one should the Lord rebuke me for?


Exodus 20:1-8,12-17 (KJV)
And God spake all these words, saying, [2] I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
[7] Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain;
[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[12] Honour thy father and thy mother:
[13] Thou shalt not kill.
[14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[15] Thou shalt not steal.
[16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[17] Thou shalt not covet

Which one should I be rebuked for?
 
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what a blasphemer.
the Gospel is Christ Crucified and raised for the justification of the unjust.
God's gift.

nothing to do with the ministry of DEATH you preach.
Jesus REBUKE YOU.
Where is this written?

What about this verse here


Revelation 13:8 (KJV)
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.