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You'll have to take that up with God.
My opinion is that if you love God and He says to do something, it's not wise to tell Him, "You know God, that's not on my heart to do that. You haven't convicted me to do that yet. I'm also going to start killing people as well, because it's not on my heart to stop either."
It's not a very loving thing to tell God you won't do something He told you to do.
My opinion is that if you love God and He says to do something, it's not wise to tell Him, "You know God, that's not on my heart to do that. You haven't convicted me to do that yet. I'm also going to start killing people as well, because it's not on my heart to stop either."
It's not a very loving thing to tell God you won't do something He told you to do.
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
God nowhere teaches "if it feels good, do it", what He does say is this...
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
You are busy running around teaching people there are no absolutes, it is all based on what you feel inside. Good luck with that, you are going to need it.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
God nowhere teaches "if it feels good, do it", what He does say is this...
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
You are busy running around teaching people there are no absolutes, it is all based on what you feel inside. Good luck with that, you are going to need it.
Prove to me from scripture the following is wrong. If you do not, you cannot!
''I am glad you agree, the Christian has the law written on their mind and placed on their heart by the Holy Spirit at the point of conversion. You accept sin is transgression of the law. Now let us take the ''law'' of observing a Saturday Sabbath.
If that particular law has been placed within a Christian, they MUST have heartfelt conviction they sin if they do not observe it. That is the spiritual reality, I hope you would agree. Therefore, what if a person does not have heartfelt conviction they commit sin by refusing to observe a specific Saturday Sabbath? What does that show us? It either means God has not written that law on their mind and placed it on their heart, or they cannot be saved. It has to mean one or the other.''
The point I was trying to make (and clearly did not make a good attempt 
) is that our standards will differ. If I was raised in a bad neighbourhood in South Africa my standards could be lower because of my circumstances.
As I understand the Bible, God is a God of order and His standards for us will be the same and we find that standards written in His word
) is that our standards will differ. If I was raised in a bad neighbourhood in South Africa my standards could be lower because of my circumstances. As I understand the Bible, God is a God of order and His standards for us will be the same and we find that standards written in His word
The point I was trying to make (and clearly did not make a good attempt ) is that our standards will differ. If I was raised in a bad neighbourhood in South Africa my standards could be lower because of my circumstances.
As I understand the Bible, God is a God of order and His standards for us will be the same and we find that standards written in His word
) is that our standards will differ. If I was raised in a bad neighbourhood in South Africa my standards could be lower because of my circumstances. As I understand the Bible, God is a God of order and His standards for us will be the same and we find that standards written in His word
We do not write the law on our own minds or place it on our hearts God desires us to keep, the Holy Spirit does. And he is the convicter of sin
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what we have a hard time dealing with is the people who say the traditions, seasons (holidays) and commands of the law teach us how to love, for they can not.
Paul warned against this sternly in gal 4. going as far as saying that if we leave the traditions of paganism, and move on to the traditions of the law. Paul fears that he did his work in vein.
Love teaches us how to fulfill the law. the law does not teach us how to love. some people have it backwards
what we have a hard time dealing with is the people who say the traditions, seasons (holidays) and commands of the law teach us how to love, for they can not.
Paul warned against this sternly in gal 4. going as far as saying that if we leave the traditions of paganism, and move on to the traditions of the law. Paul fears that he did his work in vein.
Love teaches us how to fulfill the law. the law does not teach us how to love. some people have it backwards
Why distort the truth when the truth is already confirmed previously? Why talk about it when the Bible has already instructed us in the right way? It's like talking about different sexual desires (Homosexual threads) that all know are contrary God's creation, and then talking about it in order for all to "maybe" rethink that it just might be acceptable in the sight of God. Is not that mindset the doctrine of Baalam?
Have you ever kept any of God's feast days? Have you ever tried to celebrate them with the purpose of loving God and your neighbor? Have you ever read a specific instruction in the Law and observed it with the intent of loving someone through it? It's easy to criticize something when you've never done it. If you haven't, then you really don't know what you're speaking of. I don't say that to insult you, just to point out that you practically and physically don't know.
I'll even be so bold as to say that celebrating Passover is FAR more loving than celebrating Easter. Why?
#1 Easter isn't even Biblical, let alone taught or observed by any of the early church fathers or saints. Passover is and was.
# 2 At Passover, you are commanded to come together and share the meal with others (loving others).
# 3 You are celebrating God's people as a whole being delivered from bondage by a merciful Savior (loving God).
I'll even be so bold as to say that celebrating Passover is FAR more loving than celebrating Easter. Why?
#1 Easter isn't even Biblical, let alone taught or observed by any of the early church fathers or saints. Passover is and was.
# 2 At Passover, you are commanded to come together and share the meal with others (loving others).
# 3 You are celebrating God's people as a whole being delivered from bondage by a merciful Savior (loving God).
You need to teach the Law to know what it says. Eventually, you do it out of habit and heart without the need to learn it over and over, but the fact is that you still do it. Why read or teach any part of Scripture if all we're supposed to do is teach love? You can't set a double standard and say, "Don't teach the Law from the Old Testament, but just love. But you need to teach the New Testament to know how to love." It's inconsistent.