Salvation Not Possible Without Works

[Cassian]

It sounds and maybe this is not what you mean, but here goes:
sounds like you are trying to get credit for righteous works in response to God's righteous works for us?

My response to His saving me from death and sin, is to believe that He is the Christ, the Savior of the world, John 4:42. But believing, simply believing, or what is being shown to be false, faith only is not what constitutes our individual salvation. Our response is to love and obey. If we don't then our faith is dead. We cannot be saved.

When I have no righteousness before I was saved by Faith in the finished works of God through Son and still none of my own ever after saved.

then you are NOT saved. If faith does not show the reality or evidence by works, doing righteousness then you are NOT righteous.

I do have righteousness though, yet again it is not mine it is God's alone, and I am elated Father though Son has invited me to partake in Father's righteousness, having none of my own ever

height of your confusion. You cannot even participate in His Righteousess. You don't even need to recieve it, it is given to every human being. The point scripture makes is that when we believe that Christ saved us from death and sin, we are justified by that faith. It puts us in a correct relationship where our personal salvation can be administered.

Do you agree with this or refute this and want to have your own?

You are still very confused. You conflate a lot of things.

 

[Cassian]

Brother I have rested from my works as God has his since the seventh day when he completed the earth, and this is done by belief that brings obedience, no other way as he swore they shall not enter my rest for they did not beleive and sought their own righteousness by works and not Faith (belief) in God Hebrews 3 and 4 clears on this if only God will reveal this truth

Again, or still confusion reigns. this is contrasting the work of Christ which we cannot do, namely, works of the law, which has nothing to do with our discussion relative to being saved by and through faith. Totally different ballparks. Isn't any wonder you are confused though.
You are actually conflating them.

 

[Cassian]

Okay, so please tell me this are you the creator or the creation? Being the creation are you a responder to the creator or a creator with the creator? THe difference of works in the flesh and no works of our own flesh, rather God's work through us?
Who do you give credit to when you do good works, or better yet when another pats you on the back, who do you make clear gets the credit?

I think this is part of your confusion still. The credit goes to the Holy Spirit or God. We can do nothing apart from Christ. But it is still my works that I do through or with His help. I will give an account of these works because they are mine, not the works of the Holy Spirit.

 

[VCO]

I think this is part of your confusion still. The credit goes to the Holy Spirit or God. We can do nothing apart from Christ. But it is still my works that I do through or with His help. I will give an account of these works because they are mine, not the works of the Holy Spirit.

The testing of your works by fire, is ONLY to validate if they are worthy of reward:

1 Corinthians 3:14-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.


GEE, his works were burned up, (probably because he did them for the wrong motive), however HE IS STILL SAVED, therefore works have NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION.

 

[Jabberjaw]

The testing of your works by fire, is ONLY to validate if they are worthy of reward:

1 Corinthians 3:14-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.


GEE, his works were burned up, (probably because he did them for the wrong motive), however HE IS STILL SAVED, therefore works have NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION.

Why do you take this verse out of context, it has nothing to do with man not being able to lose his salvation, it has to do with teaching, and how some will hear and as the church grows, those that teach and for each that is save he will receive his reward, but those who he teach and does not grow, he will suffer the loss, but he (the teacher) will himself be saved...

Read the whole thing, your cherry picking :

1 Corinthians 3:9-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building. [SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, [SUP]13 [/SUP]each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Verse 6 and 7 Paul is talking about himself planting the seed, Apollos watered, but God gives the increase, now how do you get Perseverance of the Saints out of that is beyond me.

 

[VCO]

If the hammer is the bible, and you are the nail, well the hammer missed the nail because you don't get it...



Ill post this again for you, Ill show you again where the disciples were commissioned to "baptize" not commissioned "so Jesus could baptize", making water baptism the saving baptism of Eph 4:5, read it slower, then don't just tell me "The only baptism that remits sins is the Holy Spirit baptism"
Show me :

You should know that Strongs will give the least inflected word or the strongs number, and it is up to you to select from the several definitions given by proper use of context.

Baptizo means to immerse or dip, dunk, but it does not in its self define what the component is that one is immersed in.

Since context of Mat 3:11 and Luke 3:16 say there are three things a person can be baptized in, it to says there is only 1 thing a disciple baptize someone in and that is water, all others are by Jesus Christ,

Matthew 3:11 (KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Men were commissioned to go throughout the world and baptizing, not to go throughout the world so Jesus could baptize.

 Matthew 28:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

The baptism that remits sins is through immersion in water.

OH how men want to believe that something they did, earned their salvation.

The word baptism mean to immerse into something. THE ONLY IMMERSION THAT SAVES IS THE IMMERSION INTO THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST. THAT IS DONE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TOTALLY APART FROM CLIMBING INTO THE BAPTISTERY, WHICH WE DO AS AN ACT OF OBEDIENCE AFTER THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS IMMERSED US INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST.

 

[VCO]

Why do you take this verse out of context, it has nothing to do with man not being able to lose his salvation, it has to do with teaching, and how some will hear and as the church grows, those that teach and for each that is save he will receive his reward, but those who he teach and does not grow, he will suffer the loss, but he (the teacher) will himself be saved...

Read the whole thing, your cherry picking :

1 Corinthians 3:9-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building. [SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, [SUP]13 [/SUP]each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Verse 6 and 7 Paul is talking about himself planting the seed, Apollos watered, but God gives the increase, now how do you get Perseverance of the Saints out of that is beyond me.

Do you mean to tell me that it does not bother you to have twist Scripture so badly, just so you can cling to believing you are earning part of your own Salvation?

1 Cor. 3:15
The second type of work is that which is useless. In this case, the servant will suffer loss, although he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. E. W. Rogers points out: "Loss does not imply the forfeiture of something once possessed." It should be clear from this verse that the Judgment Seat of Christ is not concerned with the subject of a believer's sins and their penalty. The penalty of a believer's sins was borne by the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary, and that matter has been settled once for all. Thus the believer's salvation is not at all in question at the Judgment Seat of Christ; rather it is a matter of his service.
Believer's Bible Commentary: A Thorough, Yet Easy-to-Read Bible Commentary That Turns Complicated Theology Into Practical Understanding.

1 Cor. 3:15
What the reward for the expert builder consists of was not detailed, though praise (1 Cor. 4:5) is certainly a part. The inept builder will see the loss of his labor, but he himself will be saved, like a burning stick snatched from a fire (Amos 4:11; Jude 23). Before such judgment the various materials may coexist and appear indistinguishable (cf. Matt. 13:30).
The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures by Dallas Seminary Faculty.

1 Cor. 3:15
This is not a judgment for sin. Christ has paid that price (Rom. 8:1), so that no believer will ever be judged for sin. This is only to determine eternal reward (cf. 4:5, “each one’s praise”).
3:15 be saved. No matter how much is worthless, no believer will forfeit salvation.

The MacArthur Bible Commentary.

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire [1Cor. 3:15].

You see the contrast: "If any man's work abide" which he built on the foundation, he shall receive a reward; if any man's work goes up in smoke, he will suffer a terrible loss, but, he himself will be saved. He does not lose his salvation if he is on the foundation, which is trust in Christ, even though he receives no reward.


Friend, what are you building today? What kind of material are you using? If you are building with gold, it may not be very impressive now. If you are building an old haystack, it will really stand out on the horizon, but it will go up in smoke. I like to put it like this: there are going to be some people in heaven who will be there because their foundation is Christ but who will smell as if they had been bought at a fire sale! Everything they ever did will have gone up in smoke. They will not receive a reward for their works.

Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee.

Notes for Verse 15
Verse 15. If... be burnt—if any teacher's work consist of such materials as the fire will destroy [Alford].

suffer loss—that is, forfeit the special "reward"; not that he shall lose salvation (which is altogether a free gift, not a "reward" or wages), for he remains still on the foundation (1Cor 3:12; 2John 1:6).

saved; yet so as by fire—rather, "so as through fire" (Zech 3:2; Am 4:11; Jude 1:23). "Saved, yet not without fire" (Rom 2:27) [Bengel]. As a builder whose building, not the foundation, is consumed by fire, escapes, but with the loss of his work [Alford]; as the shipwrecked merchant, though he has lost his merchandise, is saved, though having to pass through the waves [Bengel]; Mal 3:1, 2; Mal 4:1, give the key to explain the imagery. The "Lord suddenly coming to His temple" in flaming "fire," all the parts of the building which will not stand that fire will be consumed; the builders will escape with personal salvation, but with the loss of their work, through the midst of the conflagration [Alford]. Again, a distinction is recognized between minor and fundamental doctrines (if we regard the superstructure as representing the doctrines superadded to the elementary essentials); a man may err as to the former, and yet be saved, but not so as to the latter (compare Php 3:15).
Jamieson-Fassuet-Brown Bible Commentary
A Commentary: Critical, Experimental, and Practical on the Old and New Testaments.

 

[Cassian]

The testing of your works by fire, is ONLY to validate if they are worthy of reward:

1 Corinthians 3:14-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.


GEE, his works were burned up, (probably because he did them for the wrong motive), however HE IS STILL SAVED, therefore works have NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION.

It would be a great proof text if it actually dealt with all believers in general. It does not. Paul starts out the chapter correcting the teachers in Corinth who were causing dissention. Paul then states that He teaching Christ's Gospel built the foundation of Christ's Church. The teachers of the Church must continue to build upon that foundation and not undo what Paul had established.
They, the teachers, were to build competently and not build unwisely. However bad teaching is not easily discerned, but at the judgement it will be found out, in that those that built upon the foundation of Christ and the Apostles would see their reward, or if they did not do a good job, their efforts will be burned, but they will be saved. Teachers are not just saved on what they teach, but like all believers on how they exercise their own faith in general.

 

[Cassian]

Why do you take this verse out of context, it has nothing to do with man not being able to lose his salvation, it has to do with teaching, and how some will hear and as the church grows, those that teach and for each that is save he will receive his reward, but those who he teach and does not grow, he will suffer the loss, but he (the teacher) will himself be saved...

Read the whole thing, your cherry picking :

1 Corinthians 3:9-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building. [SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, [SUP]13 [/SUP]each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Verse 6 and 7 Paul is talking about himself planting the seed, Apollos watered, but God gives the increase, now how do you get Perseverance of the Saints out of that is beyond me.

You do surprise me in this reply. Not many protestants understand this text. It is commonly used by "faith only", but even others stumble all over it. Excellent.

 

[Cassian]

OH how men want to believe that something they did, earned their salvation.

The word baptism mean to immerse into something. THE ONLY IMMERSION THAT SAVES IS THE IMMERSION INTO THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST. THAT IS DONE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TOTALLY APART FROM CLIMBING INTO THE BAPTISTERY, WHICH WE DO AS AN ACT OF OBEDIENCE AFTER THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS IMMERSED US INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST.

It would be quite difficult to do as you say, when it is actually the water that enters one into Christ. John 3:5, and Rom 6:3-4. It is an act of obedience, but while it is necessary for salvation, it of itself does not save. Just like faith only does not save either. Justification only also does not save, but all are necessary as part of our salvation.

 

[Cassian]

Do you mean to tell me that it does not bother you to have twist Scripture so badly, just so you can cling to believing you are earning part of your own Salvation?

You cite all men of the Reformation, all sola scripturists, who can only give their opinion. Can you cite anyone from the first century who was actually taught the Gospel of Christ and could explain what it meant as the Apostles taught it?

It should also be noted that there are many other sola scripturists who disagree with these gentlemen's opinions.

 

[Jabberjaw]

Do you mean to tell me that it does not bother you to have twist Scripture so badly, just so you can cling to believing you are earning part of your own Salvation?

Notes for Verse 15
Verse 15. If... be burnt—if any teacher's work consist of such materials as the fire will destroy [Alford].

suffer loss—that is, forfeit the special "reward"; not that he shall lose salvation (which is altogether a free gift, not a "reward" or wages), for he remains still on the foundation (1Cor 3:12; 2John 1:6).

saved; yet so as by fire—rather, "so as through fire" (Zech 3:2; Am 4:11; Jude 1:23). "Saved, yet not without fire" (Rom 2:27) [Bengel]. As a builder whose building, not the foundation, is consumed by fire, escapes, but with the loss of his work [Alford]; as the shipwrecked merchant, though he has lost his merchandise, is saved, though having to pass through the waves [Bengel]; Mal 3:1, 2; Mal 4:1, give the key to explain the imagery. The "Lord suddenly coming to His temple" in flaming "fire," all the parts of the building which will not stand that fire will be consumed; the builders will escape with personal salvation, but with the loss of their work, through the midst of the conflagration [Alford]. Again, a distinction is recognized between minor and fundamental doctrines (if we regard the superstructure as representing the doctrines superadded to the elementary essentials); a man may err as to the former, and yet be saved, but not so as to the latter (compare Php 3:15).
Jamieson-Fassuet-Brown Bible Commentary
A Commentary: Critical, Experimental, and Practical on the Old and New Testaments.

No, what bothers me is you and Jamieson-Fassuet-Brown have twisted this scripture,

Again, you take verse 15 as pretext, and leave out the context so you can create your man made doctrine, lets go back further in the context :

1 Corinthians 3:5-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? [SUP]6 [/SUP]I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. [SUP]7 [/SUP]So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.

A child can see up to here that Paul is speaking of himself and Apollos and them teaching (growing the church)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Verse 8 Again, planting and watering and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor (we are still speaking of teaching here and being rewarded for growing the church, Hope you and J-F-B are paying attention.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building.

Verse 9 Paul is now Paul contrasts the teachers from those being taught to teach.[SUP]

10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Verse 10-11, Paul here talks about the wisdom given to him by God to teach, the foundation of Christ he laid for them he taught to build on, cautioning them to be careful on how they build on that foundation laid by Christ.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, [SUP]13 [/SUP]each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.

Verse 12-14 Paul tells them of the one they teach, if taught well on the same foundation he used (foundation of Christ) their work will become clear because one day each ones work will be tested and if the one they taught well endures, he (the teacher) will receive his reward

[SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Verse 15 If these converts were to be the ground of his reward, the loss of them would cause him to suffer a corresponding loss, yet he would be saved.

It is a shame J-F-B allows man made theology to sway "his opinion", if you read the bible, its easier to understand if you try it yourself and not let someone tell you what it really means...

 

[Jabberjaw]

You do surprise me in this reply. Not many protestants understand this text. It is commonly used by "faith only", but even others stumble all over it. Excellent.

Thanks, but I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I know most believe one must be in one of these, however, the assemblies I belong to are not a product of the "reformation" but the "restoration".

 

[VCO]

It would be a great proof text if it actually dealt with all believers in general. It does not. Paul starts out the chapter correcting the teachers in Corinth who were causing dissention. Paul then states that He teaching Christ's Gospel built the foundation of Christ's Church. The teachers of the Church must continue to build upon that foundation and not undo what Paul had established.
They, the teachers, were to build competently and not build unwisely. However bad teaching is not easily discerned, but at the judgement it will be found out, in that those that built upon the foundation of Christ and the Apostles would see their reward, or if they did not do a good job, their efforts will be burned, but they will be saved. Teachers are not just saved on what they teach, but like all believers on how they exercise their own faith in general.

Malachi 3:6 (NKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.

Romans 4:2-5 (NKJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,


Checkmate!

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

I've come to realize, It doesnt matter how many Bible quotes you post, people believe what they want.

We have posted, me and other people, a huge assortment of Bible quotes. I have even show how sin itself is a work. Yet, people do not want to listen.

As it says in Titus 3:9-11, I will not post in here anymore. I have warned more than twice. If you think works dont count at all after all the Bible quotes saying they do count, then nothing I can say can change your mind.

Basically, I give up for now. I may have more energy later, but now I give up. Some people, regardless of what the Bible says, will not believe that it is wrong. So therefore, I give up. I showed you the truth and the Bible quotes, lots of them, but people are still disagreeing and arguing.

- David

 

[Jabberjaw]

Malachi 3:6 (NKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.

Romans 4:2-5 (NKJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,


Checkmate!

Wrong dispensation, over and over you guys must be told, Paul is rebuking the Jews who were trying to keep the Law of Moses, the Jewish Law he called "works" he even contrasts the Law with faith (righteous works) using Abraham as example (see that big old bold part you put up there), Like under the Law of Christ, it is faith (righteous works like with Abraham) not the Jewish Law "works of merit"

 

[Jabberjaw]

I've come to realize, It doesnt matter how many Bible quotes you post, people believe what they want.

We have posted, me and other people, a huge assortment of Bible quotes. I have even show how sin itself is a work. Yet, people do not want to listen.

As it says in Titus 3:9-11, I will not post in here anymore. I have warned more than twice. If you think works dont count at all after all the Bible quotes saying they do count, then nothing I can say can change your mind.

Basically, I give up for now. I may have more energy later, but now I give up. Some people, regardless of what the Bible says, will not believe that it is wrong. So therefore, I give up. I showed you the truth and the Bible quotes, lots of them, but people are still disagreeing and arguing.

- David

I see you are young, not old like me LoL... Now and then it helps to look down at the bottom and see not just how many members are watching the thread, but how many guests, most that post on here will never change (not that it is not possible for someone to change, but more than likely they wont), but the guests that are watching are the ones I hope to reach and why I am willing to keep on chuggin along...

Don't give up.

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

I see you are young, not old like me LoL... Now and then it helps to look down at the bottom and see not just how many members are watching the thread, but how many guests, most that post on here will never change (not that it is not possible for someone to change, but more than likely they wont), but the guests that are watching are the ones I hope to reach and why I am willing to keep on chuggin along...

Don't give up.

I'll try, but you know how hard it is to keep fighting?

It's like saying to someone, "Look it says adultery is bad" and they say "Adultery is good" =___________________=

But God bless you man, keep up the good fight. And you are right, and I forget who else but someone else told me the same thing. THey don't fight to inform the people they are against, but for the guests and new members. So keep at it brother, it's an endless war lol.... and I'll try to fight myself.

 

[Jabberjaw]

I'll try, but you know how hard it is to keep fighting?

It's like saying to someone, "Look it says adultery is bad" and they say "Adultery is good" =___________________=

But God bless you man, keep up the good fight. And you are right, and I forget who else but someone else told me the same thing. THey don't fight to inform the people they are against, but for the guests and new members. So keep at it brother, it's an endless war lol.... and I'll try to fight myself.

To the end, just like Paul :


2 Timothy 4:7-8 (NKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

To the end, just like Paul :


2 Timothy 4:7-8 (NKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

Im going to put that in my Key bible quotes list lol

But you keep going man, I gotta start looking for a job again =_= I'll be back later

- David