SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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Actually there is only one true north and that is Liverpool north west 
just joking God is not territorial he is everywhere
just joking God is not territorial he is everywhere
Psalm 48:1-3 God in the mountain of his holiness, the joy of the whole earth, is mount ZION, on the sides (PARTS) of the NORTH, the city of the GREAT KING
Isaiah 14:13 Concerning the fall of Lucifer-->For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the STARS OF GOD: I will sit also upon the MOUNT of the congregation, in the SIDES (PARTS) of the NORTH
God is the LOFTY one who inhabits eternity and the EARTH IS HIS FOOT STOOL<---POINTS to GOD SITTING ON HIS THRONE ABOVE THE EARTH IN THE NORTH!
These are just three references to the scriptures that point to where the God of heaven is which is in the NORTH PARTS if you will.....
It is interesting that there seems to be nothing behind the NORTH STAR!
aha ha ha ha lol to funny
I again will state that I am not saying that a child of God should not be biblical and walk according to the word of God which will bring SANCTIFICATION in our PHYSICAL lives and make us usable for God...
The bible does not teach our works to gain or keep salvation as it is the spirit that is born of God and does not sin and cannot loose the eternal life that has been given unto our spirit as it is the perfect faith OF JESUS that saves us and justifies us before the Heavenly Father!
Lets see what page you are on , so what you are saying if i confessed jesus and repented but at a point murdered an individual and continue killing others continually without any form of repentance by showing that i commit murder and have not stopped then would i be saved ? This is a question worth answering no philosophy no human understanding use pure scripture
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sounds like fake emotion based repentance, which is not faith. no conviction means no Spirit. No Spirit means... never saved.
Why would you ask him to defend a point he has refuted previously.
please pay closer attention. 'Understanding' is not a common gift, but this is more common sense that is needed.
Why would you ask him to defend a point he has refuted previously.
please pay closer attention. 'Understanding' is not a common gift, but this is more common sense that is needed.
Thank you Amen to that i believe it is good to make aware of falsities to make aware that we are not to sin but we do have an advocate that is jesus to confess and repent that we maintain propperly oiled and tuned to stand against the whales of the enemy wich seeks to kill and destroy . And Our friend Our God wich seeks to save and heal giving us life and the adversary giving death , as for me and my house we chose life
Well the bible is quite clear we have to respect the law of the land, yes no-one can go out and murder,, but one can out and run someone over drunk in a car and only get charged with manslaughter,, where is the justice in some parts of the law of the land hmm,, Now on the other side the government pays there soldiers to kill the soldier is still obliged to respect the law of the land,, that is the duty of a soldier,, this is the only time killing is acceptable along with self defense,, but one who murders and sheds innocent blood is seen as one of the things the lord detests, there are different types of murders so perhaps apostle would like to say exactly what murder he is talking about,, is he talking about pre mediated murder,, ie planned in advance ,, is he talking about an act in the heat of moment , when we know this we can answer ,,
Lt i know you have a good perception but we are dealing with ones that dont know better to the learned we have a good perception but we must be aware of the unlearned then they must be baby steped but to the learned the obedient salvation is secure now the thief on the cross did not have a chancr of learning but was saved but if we are given a timefrsme and have sufficidnt time and do nothing then we are at failufe but if there is no time maybe then that person would be saved