Sanctification - How does the life of Lord Jesus Christ manifest through the Believer?

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tourist

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This is the problem, you and others do not present what the word of God says in plain words, but you attempt to take parts here and there and mix them with your own opinion to create some standard to "un-save" others, while you yourself do not keep the standard you would teach and lay upon others.

This is not "loving others as yourself" this is loving yourself and allowing mercy for yourself, while attempting to condemn others by a standard you do not keep." Most of you are divorce or remarried because of sin. If you would have had this teaching on sanctification the results would have been different.
Actually that is what you do by the words in red. What in the world does this have to do with being divorced or remarried?
 
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So you refuse to answer my question. I know the word rapture is not in the bible, and that 'caught up' refers to it, I just don't think that there will be those who are 'left behind' or the rapture is a means of sparing the church from the tribulation. I have no idea what this has to do with the cross. I have tried many times in the past to actually have a conversation with you but you never answer any questions that I may have or have attempted to show who you are as a person and how you live your day to day life. These one-sided conversations are just an exercise in futility and a complete waste of my precious time.
Matthew 7:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 Give not that which is Holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
 

Dino246

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Matthew 7:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 Give not that which is Holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
That's a typical reply from someone incapable of respectful and reasonable dialogue.
 
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That's a typical reply from someone incapable of respectful and reasonable dialogue.
Your Father is Satan. You and your Judaizers follow me around with truth and a lie to bewitch the people of God with false teachings. You try to belittle Brother Swaggart, but he is still married! Lets talk about your sin. Why did you get a divorce?
 
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Jesus Explains the Purpose of Speaking in Parables

Matthew 13:10-14

10 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him (seems to pertain to a later time when they were alone), Why do you speak to them in Parables? (This portrays consternation on their part!)

11 He answered and said unto them (concerns the Lord's method of dealing with two different classes of people, those who really wanted to know God's way and those who were merely curious), Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given (two categories are here presented; in which category are you?).

12 For whosoever has (and wants more), to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance (if one wills Righteousness, the Lord wills more Righteousness to them): but whosoever has not (no interest for more), from him shall be taken away even that he has (he not only loses what he could have had, but even that which he has; to those who accept the Cross, they will have even more, and to those who reject the Cross, they will lose everything, even that which they previously had).

13 Therefore speak I to them in Parables (in order to separate those who hunger and thirst for Righteousness from those who don't): because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand (that is, they do not wish to see or hear or understand; and hence by a just judgment they lose this triple moral ability).

14 And in them (those who reject the Cross [1 Cor. 1:23]) is fulfilled the Prophecy of Isaiah, which says, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive (a willing deafness, a willful blindness, and a willful dullness; this Passage is quoted in one form or the other some seven times in the New Testament [Mat. 13:14-15; Mk. 4:12; LK. 8:10; Jn. 12:39-40; Acts 28:26-27; Rom. 11:8]):

JSM
 
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Philippians 3:17-21 King James Version (KJV)

ENEMIES OF THE CROSS DOCTRINE

17 Brethren, be followers together of me (be "Fellow-imitators"), and mark them which walk so as you have us for an ensample (observe intently).

18 (For many walk (speaks of those attempting to live for God outside of the victory and rudiments of the Cross of Christ), of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping (this is a most serious matter), that they are the enemies of the Cross of Christ (those who do not look exclusively to the Cross of Christ must be labeled "enemies"):

19 Whose end is destruction (if the Cross is ignored, and continues to be ignored, the loss of the soul is the only ultimate conclusion), whose God is their belly (refers to those who attempt to pervert the Gospel for their own personal gain), and whose glory is in their shame (the material things they seek, God labels as "shame"), who mind earthly things.) (This means they have no interest in Heavenly things, which signifies they are using the Lord for their own personal gain.)

20 For our conversation (citizenship) is in Heaven (meaning the other ways will have no place in Heaven); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ (the Rapture):

21 Who (the Lord) shall change our vile body (the Resurrection), that it may be fashioned like unto his Glorious body (every Saint will have a Glorified Body), according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself. ("All things" are done through the Cross.)

JSM

All things" are done through the Cross. If you leave the Cross, you enter death (Romans 8:1-2, 6, 13)
 
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Very - Very - IMPORTANT!!!!!!! I repeat!!!!!!!

Those who have departed from the faith

To depart from the faith means that a person had once been in the faith. Brother Swaggart says when we speak of faith at the ministry, we're speaking of faith in the Cross of the Lord Jesus Christ. When people leave the Cross and turn to other things, which millions are now doing, the Scripture says of them: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1).

Needless to say, such individuals, as with the lukewarm and as with those who have a form of godliness, are labeled by the Lord as unsaved, despite their claims, and will not go in the rapture nor enter the strait gate and narrow way that leads unto life.


JSM
 

Dino246

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Your Father is Satan. You and your Judaizers follow me around with truth and a lie to bewitch the people of God with false teachings. You try to belittle Brother Swaggart, but he is still married! Lets talk about your sin. Why did you get a divorce?
You just proved my point.
 

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Jesus said in John 15:5 these words, "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing."

My question is, how does the life of Lord Jesus Christ manifest through the Believer?
The question start with how, it is difficult question

Like how to screen use canon printer, the factory give a manual how to do it because we need to know so manufacture able to sale the printer to us.

How Jesus manifest in us ? The process only God know.

But what is the requirement, Jesus tell us, abide in Him

What is the manifestation look like? He tell us, the manifestation is the fruit

And the fruit of Holy Spirit is love.

So Jesus in us make us able to love other,

Jesus love His enemy, so when He in us we love our enemy. It happen to Stephen

When people kill Jesus on the cross He pray, ask Father to forgive the killer

When people kill sthephen, Jesus in stephen manifest in the form of

Forgive the people that kill Stephen.

It is the manifestation of Jesus in Him.

It is not the requirement of salvation, but it is product of salvation
 
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The question start with how, it is difficult question

Like how to screen use canon printer, the factory give a manual how to do it because we need to know so manufacture able to sale the printer to us.

How Jesus manifest in us ? The process only God know.

But what is the requirement, Jesus tell us, abide in Him

What is the manifestation look like? He tell us, the manifestation is the fruit

And the fruit of Holy Spirit is love.

So Jesus in us make us able to love other,

Jesus love His enemy, so when He in us we love our enemy. It happen to Stephen

When people kill Jesus on the cross He pray, ask Father to forgive the killer

When people kill sthephen, Jesus in stephen manifest in the form of

Forgive the people that kill Stephen.

It is the manifestation of Jesus in Him.

It is not the requirement of salvation, but it is product of salvation
He that hath My commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to Him. John 14:21

How do we keep Jesus commandments and what are His commandments?
 
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But what is the requirement, Jesus tell us, abide in Him

What is the manifestation look like? He tell us, the manifestation is the fruit

And the fruit of Holy Spirit is love.
All works must be produced and birth by the Holy Spirit or it is dead works. The "Golden Bell and the Pomegranate" must bounce against each other or it is tingling cymbal and sounding brass. The Golden Bell = The Gift of the Spirit, and the Pomegranate = The Fruit of the Spirit (Exodus 28:34). We need both to be in operation.

We need "The Golden Bells (The Baptism of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the spirit) and the Pomegranates (The Fruit of the Holy Spirit that gives us victory over sin) Exodus 28:34 NIV. If you have two bells and no fruit bouncing against each other you have 1 Corinthians 13:1, clanging cymbals.

One without the other produces an inconsistency and it is a problem. To say you don't need both is doubt and unbelief which is never acceptable to God. The Bell presents the power and the Pomegranate presents relationship. You must have the development of both. These are two different works of the Holy Spirit; the fruits and the gifts. The Golden Bells and the Pomegranate is a TYPE.

Faith placed exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus, will always produce proper works by the Holy Spirit. This is the only Faith God will recognize. Anything and everything that is not of the Spirit is "dead faith." Lifeless Faith is profitless (rotten fruit). James 2:14-18

The Way Of The Spirit
Focus: The Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
Object Of Faith: The Cross of Christ (Romans 6:1-14)
Power Source: The Holy Spirit (Romans 8:1-2, 11)
Results: Victory (Romans 6:14)

Man's Way
Focus: Works.
Object Of Faith: Performance.
Power Source: Self.
Results: Defeat!

The only way to God is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)...the only way to Jesus Christ is by the Means of the Cross (Luke 14:27). The only way to the Cross is a denial of self (Luke 9:23). If any person tries to come any other way, Jesus says, "they are a thief and a robber" (John 10:1).

1. Jesus Christ is the source of all blessings.
2. The Cross is the means by which all blessings are given.
3. The object of our faith must be Christ and the Cross.
4. That being done, the Holy Spirit will greatly help us.

JSM
 

Dino246

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The "Golden Bell and the Pomegranate" must bounce against each other or it is tingling cymbal and sounding brass. The Golden Bell = The Gift of the Spirit, and the Pomegranate = The Fruit of the Spirit (Exodus 28:34).

This is unbiblical speculation and spiritualization.


Object Of Faith: The Cross of Christ (Romans 6:1-14)
Romans 6:1-14 says absolutely nothing about putting our faith in the cross.