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I would like to see it Ramon.
not that it really matters or make a difference about how Christians should treat, love and respect others.
it seems respect in in low regard these days and forgiveness has been dam up and held back from flowing outward to the world.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHdcyue0bSw[/video]
I thought you only looked at the light within people and sought after God's heart.
not that it really matters or make a difference about how Christians should treat, love and respect others.
it seems respect in in low regard these days and forgiveness has been dam up and held back from flowing outward to the world.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHdcyue0bSw[/video]
I thought you only looked at the light within people and sought after God's heart.
I hope. I don't become ignorant in my hope. I hope in patience and expectation.
If Zone believed that God can and does heal people by grace and compassion through soveriegnty, then she would also have no problem believing that God could give a believer a national tongue to minister to another the message of love of God and the gospel of Christ in their own language. She could go one step further and also believe under that same soveriegnty that a prophecy could be made of a future happening or event that would come to past in the plan of God. The sovereignty of God could cover of those areas of the gifts, signs, wonders and even miracles, that she and others believe do not operate or function in the body of Christ.
With that understanding we would have a balance and just weight and we would not be so quick to judge another with our diametrically opposed position.
With that understanding we would have a balance and just weight and we would not be so quick to judge another with our diametrically opposed position.
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Red do you think it would be possible to change up on your method?
Sharing what you believe is what this venue is for. And everyone has
a voice here. But your focus on people by name...and you attitude and
critique of them smells like curdled milk.
You say more than is written here...you give peoples motives..which you
dont know..which is that way because God made it that way...because its
none of your business. One on one is one thing...but to fling this refuse
into a thread as you do is intollerable. Like i said go start a thread, this time
dialogue in it and share your views.
Red do you think it would be possible to change up on your method?
Sharing what you believe is what this venue is for. And everyone has
a voice here. But your focus on people by name...and you attitude and
critique of them smells like curdled milk.
You say more than is written here...you give peoples motives..which you
dont know..which is that way because God made it that way...because its
none of your business. One on one is one thing...but to fling this refuse
into a thread as you do is intollerable. Like i said go start a thread, this time
dialogue in it and share your views.
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mmm if you pay attention Zone only denies that the office of Apostle and prophet were for the foundation of the church just as Christ had to only die once, He only had to send these unique men to witness and write the scriptures and lay the foundations once. the gifts she denies still exist is the "knowledge/ direct revelations" to help the prophets and the early church write the Bible and for the early church fathers to convene and compile it through Holy Spirit inspiration, prophecy about what God's plan for the world is: revealed in Revelations and tongues.
due to a verse in Corinthians and another in one of the other epistles about how the foundation having been laid once.
I don't agree with her about the gifts but do agree about the foundation being laid by Jesus, the apostles and the prophets. However I still believe in prophecy, tongues (real forgein languages people miraclously can speak and understand) and direct revelations (but I believe this is divine inspiration or revelation of scriptures, we don't agree on definitions)
therefore if you are going to accuse someone of something at least make sure you have your facts straight.
I'm sorry Ramon. perhaps you misread a post?
due to a verse in Corinthians and another in one of the other epistles about how the foundation having been laid once.
I don't agree with her about the gifts but do agree about the foundation being laid by Jesus, the apostles and the prophets. However I still believe in prophecy, tongues (real forgein languages people miraclously can speak and understand) and direct revelations (but I believe this is divine inspiration or revelation of scriptures, we don't agree on definitions)
therefore if you are going to accuse someone of something at least make sure you have your facts straight.
I'm sorry Ramon. perhaps you misread a post?
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Two things, I am not going to try and slam it against zone, attempting to bring in more offense. I am cautious about such things, anyone that wants me to go add to the fuel, I will not.
So, we can just leave the issue between Jesus and his words. In those words everyone will be judged.
Please don't tempt me any further.
May Jesus bless you.
So, we can just leave the issue between Jesus and his words. In those words everyone will be judged.
Please don't tempt me any further.
May Jesus bless you.
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You know what? I actually support taking, "In GOD we trust" off of the dollar. Me personally, I think it's a mockery when you claim to trust in God while simultaneously stealing from millions of people on a regular basis through banking cartels.
Galatians 6:7- Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
What ever happened to being all things to all people that we might gain some?
1Cor 9:18b-23
18b I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak (NAR) became I as weak (NAR), that I might gain the weak (NAR): I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
1Cor 9:18b-23
18b I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak (NAR) became I as weak (NAR), that I might gain the weak (NAR): I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.