Satan Has NO LEGAL RIGHTS!

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AnandaHya

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zone said:
cop-out.
you lied about me denying God heals.

and not long ago you called down curses on me and SWORE BY ALL WHO WITNESSED THAT JESUS would not permit me to speak in his Name.

did your prophecy fail Ramon?

that makes you a false prophet. do you understand that?

AN APOLOGY WOULD SUFFICE.
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oh I forgot about that....that explains a lot, but still not why he felt moved to do it in the first place........

2 Corinthians 2
3 And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all. 4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you.
5 But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent—not to be too severe. 6 This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man, 7 so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. 8 Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him. 9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. 10 Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one[a] for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.

I still Love Ramon, even if I think he is mistaken concerning Zone and pride might prevent him from apologizing.
 
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Ramon

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AnandaHya said:
oh I forgot about that....that explains a lot, but still not why he felt moved to do it in the first place........

2 Corinthians 2
3 And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all. 4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you.
5 But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent—not to be too severe. 6 This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man, 7 so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. 8 Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him. 9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. 10 Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one[a] for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.

I still Love Ramon, even if I think he is mistaken concerning Zone and pride might prevent him from apologizing.
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I have nothing to apologize for if you might call it pride, concerning what I said.

You and others have given me a few choices in which I could have taken and then been in condemnation. But I have not taken them, in that I will not go digging it up to prove it.

So, as I said, we will keep it between Jesus and his words.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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Red do you think it would be possible to change up on your method?
Sharing what you believe is what this venue is for. And everyone has
a voice here. But your focus on people by name...and you attitude and
critique of them smells like curdled milk.

You say more than is written here...you give peoples motives..which you
dont know..which is that way because God made it that way...because its
none of your business. One on one is one thing...but to fling this refuse
into a thread as you do is intollerable. Like i said go start a thread, this time
dialogue in it and share your views.
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He called them children of the devil who worshiped like him, and he wasn't lying.

Now, hear this, we are not afraid of the truth, but all who do evil, and entice others to continue in evil are of the devil. How discreet must we be? If anyone wants to follow Christ, let him keep the fruits to line up with it.

Which attitude do you prefer? One like I have seen from many who claim Christ but deny him in deed? Who should I follow?

Now, who wants to put a bit int he mouth of the Truth?

Jesus could no less speak the truth, knowing his own, and knowing the ways of them that are not His own.

Who tolerates what? No one has to tolerate me, but Jesus will not tolerate anyone who decides to offend ANY of his own.
 
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AnandaHya

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Jesus does not tolerant unrepentant liars, either. When you speak make sure it is the TRUTH and not the FLESH.

Jesus disciples are always praying for others and asking GOD to FORGIVE those who offend them. they do not go around condemning and cursing them.

Are you saying you do not believe GOD forgives those His children pray for? That He would not reach out and save them too if it was His will?

Yes offense will come but woe onto those who the offense comes by? yet can you cast the first stone? Are you without sin?

should we not DO as God teaches and be DOERS of the words and NOT hearers only? Should we not leave the judging of another's salvation to GOD and not be a judge but a Disciple of Jesus? Is God not able to make His servants stand?

are you so secure you can say another is not a child of God or can not become one?
 
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Ramon

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If I am a liar, let the Lord judge me as a liar then. But if I speak the Truth, let the Truth witness my words.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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unclefester

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Ramon said:
He called them children of the devil who worshiped like him, and he wasn't lying.

Now, hear this, we are not afraid of the truth, but all who do evil, and entice others to continue in evil are of the devil. How discreet must we be? If anyone wants to follow Christ, let him keep the fruits to line up with it.

Which attitude do you prefer? One like I have seen from many who claim Christ but deny him in deed? Who should I follow?

Now, who wants to put a bit int he mouth of the Truth?

Jesus could no less speak the truth, knowing his own, and knowing the ways of them that are not His own.

Who tolerates what? No one has to tolerate me, but Jesus will not tolerate anyone who decides to offend ANY of his own.
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Remember your very own words Ramon. And any who bear false witness are not His own. None can escape the consequence of sinful pride.
 
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AnandaHya

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Ramon said:
If I am a liar, let the Lord judge me as a liar then. But if I speak the Truth, let the Truth witness my words.

May Jesus bless you.
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I would rather you repent and resist the tactics of Satan, but if you prefer to learn your lesson the hard way we can only pray God has mercy upon you.

John 9:39
And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGniRk_GcLs[/video]

i guess for a while we must walk apart.
 
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Ramon

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AnandaHya said:
I would rather you repent and resist the tactics of Satan, but if you prefer to learn your lesson the hard way we can only pray God has mercy upon you.

John 9:39
And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGniRk_GcLs[/video]
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I am resisting.
 
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AnandaHya

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Ramon said:
I am resisting.
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and I have faith that God will show you His truth and keep you but sometimes the hardest lessons are the ones that cut the deepest to take out the embedded tumor of sin and pride is hard for so often we justify it by calling it love for others when in truth it is mixed with love of self and lack of faith in GOD's power to KEEP and protect ALL His children from all life's trials.

If they are His God will keep them. If they are not, then you may be holding a viper to your heart be careful you do not get bitten.

last year a pastor told me something that really cut. I'm told I was not meant to be savior of the world, Jesus has that job, we are just called to be witnesses of His salvation and guide people to Jesus and through prayer ask God to save them and us as well. for it is not US who does anything but GOD who through us puts back in right relationship the world.
 
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Ramon

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AnandaHya said:
and I have faith that God will show you His truth and keep you but sometimes the hardest lessons are the ones that cut the deepest to take out the embedded tumor of sin and pride is hard for so often we justify it by calling it love for others when in truth it is mixed with love of self and lack of faith in GOD's power to KEEP and protect ALL His children from all life's trials.

If they are His God will keep them. If they are not, then you may be holding a viper to your heart be careful you do not get bitten.

last year a pastor told me something that really cut. I'm told I was not meant to be savior of the world, Jesus has that job, we are just called to be witnesses of His salvation and guide people to Jesus and through prayer ask God to save them and us as well. for it is not US who does anything but GOD who through us puts back in right relationship the world.
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Ananda, you have made yourself a judge of my heart, and will not hear me when I said we will leave it to Jesus and his words. So you further tempt me.

And I said, let the Lord judge what I said. I don't run from him, I run to him so that he can test me. I don't keep it hidden.

So let's leave it there.
 
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AnandaHya

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#92
Ramon said:
Ananda, you have made yourself a judge of my heart, and will not hear me when I said we will leave it to Jesus and his words. So you further tempt me.

And I said, let the Lord judge what I said. I don't run from him, I run to him so that he can test me. I don't keep it hidden.

So let's leave it there.
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no its not your heart I was looking at but your associates. but we will leave it in God's hands.
 
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Ramon

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#93
AnandaHya said:
no its not your heart I was looking at but your associates. but we will leave it in God's hands.
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Yes, that is where it began, and that is where all things will end by.

May Jesus bless you Anandaya.
 
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BlueLagoon

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Aug 27, 2011
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zone said:
this is the internet.
i'm not hindering anyone from anything.
these are letters on a screen.

i'll keep doing what i do, and you do the same.
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And some people take alot of liberties in how they use those "letters on a screen " kinda like "sticks and stones will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me "..... right...?...
Just letters on a screen. I think red's posts always hit it right on but at least he uses respect in his "letters on a screen"
 
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Abiding

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Red do you think it would be possible to change up on your method?
Sharing what you believe is what this venue is for. And everyone has
a voice here. But your focus on people by name...and you attitude and
critique of them smells like curdled milk.

You say more than is written here...you give peoples motives..which you
dont know..which is that way because God made it that way...because its
none of your business. One on one is one thing...but to fling this refuse
into a thread as you do is intollerable. Like i said go start a thread, this time
dialogue in it and share your views.
He called them children of the devil who worshiped like him, and he wasn't lying.

Now, hear this, we are not afraid of the truth, but all who do evil, and entice others to continue in evil are of the devil. How discreet must we be? If anyone wants to follow Christ, let him keep the fruits to line up with it.

Which attitude do you prefer? One like I have seen from many who claim Christ but deny him in deed? Who should I follow?

Now, who wants to put a bit int he mouth of the Truth?

Jesus could no less speak the truth, knowing his own, and knowing the ways of them that are not His own.

Who tolerates what? No one has to tolerate me, but Jesus will not tolerate anyone who decides to offend ANY of his own.


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sorry i dont understand this...who and what are you talking about?
 
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Abiding

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BlueLagoon said:
And some people take alot of liberties in how they use those "letters on a screen " kinda like "sticks and stones will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me "..... right...?...
Just letters on a screen. I think red's posts always hit it right on but at least he uses respect in his "letters on a screen"
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I rekon a slanderer would make a good gossip. Why not try to talk to the person for once.
 
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Muskokaman

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Aug 18, 2011
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Abiding said:
I rekon a slanderer would make a good gossip. Why not try to talk to the person for once.
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Hey folks anyone ever notice what happens in a thread with Satan's name in its title don't take my word for it check it out for yourselves in the history of the bible discussion alone !

I have said this before and I will say it again no good can come from even uttering his name let alone title a thread after it!

Call me crazy I could care less but for your own sakes use discretion when titeling a thread....

Peace and Love to all:)
 
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Laodicea

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Revelation 12:10
(10) And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
1 John 2:1
(1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

 
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Red33

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zone said:
i love you brother.
very much.
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Prov 17:17 A friend loveth AT ALL TIMES, and a brother is born for adversity.

Isn't that a good verse with lots of integrity. This love is not an emotional love that changes through various moods and mental blocks because of the adversity that a brother may go through or be subject to in the details of life through the plan of God. It is a love that is born for ADVERSITY and that love abides in the heart. It is not a love that writes people off because they have been insulted or reacted to the words of another in the flesh, that's what carnal believers do because of strife and contentions. The love of God is not that way because it believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things because it is kind and long suffering and never thinks evil (1Cor 13:4-7).
 
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