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I don't go along with all this gossip about never acknowledging the shadow of anything. When light shine on anything there is a shadow, everyone wants to erase the shadow. Can't be done.
You keep Christmas and Easter. They are not mentioned in the bible at all. Yet you are against what is biblical as something we are to do. I dug up the report on the Nicene council that Constantine called for to see why they decided to make Passover illegal and put Easter in it's place when everyone knew it was a Christianized pagan holiday. The report said that it was because the terrible Jews honored Passover and anything they did should never be done by a Christian. Centuries later Hitler came along and worked with the Lutherans to outlaw the Old Testament as part of the bible because it was too Jewish.
You keep Christmas and Easter. They are not mentioned in the bible at all. Yet you are against what is biblical as something we are to do. I dug up the report on the Nicene council that Constantine called for to see why they decided to make Passover illegal and put Easter in it's place when everyone knew it was a Christianized pagan holiday. The report said that it was because the terrible Jews honored Passover and anything they did should never be done by a Christian. Centuries later Hitler came along and worked with the Lutherans to outlaw the Old Testament as part of the bible because it was too Jewish.
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1 Cor 5:7 Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
I thought this was a good article too:
Are Feast days valid today?
I thought this was a good article too:
Are Feast days valid today?
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One way to look at this is to ask what is meant when the Bible tells us to 'keep' something. For example, many people go to church on Saturday or Sunday and think that they are 'keeping' the sabbath or sabbaths. Yet that is not really 'keeping' the sabbath(s). Exodus 31:13 tells us to 'keep' the sabbaths because it is a sign the the Lord sanctifies his people. In other words, when a person is saved, they are already 'keeping' the sabbaths. Why? Because the Lord has done all of the work of sanctifying them(of saving them). That is why there is the shadow tradition of not doing any work. It was a picture of how Jesus does ALL of the work of saving someone. The saved person doesn't do the work of saving himself. Just doing the shadow rituals won't make any difference towards their salvation one way OR the other. Some people like to do the rituals because they read the Bible as a surface text and not a parable (Psalm 78:2) and think that God riquires the ritual. However, other people do not think it is required but find it useful to go through the ritual as a way of studying its components to see how the shadow ritual points to actual spiritual truth. The second way can be OK if it done as a study or learning. People should not tell others that they have to go to what man calls "church" on Saturday or Sunday in order to please God or further their salvation status. That would be untrue. People worshipping or praising God or preaching or reading the Bible is OK however, on any day, together or in groups, wouldn't anyone agree?
It is the same way with the Feasts of the Lord. People 'keep' the festival of Booths not by doing all the little rituals of building a hut in the wilderness, festooned with the physical acutriments ascribed to the ceremony, but, rather, they 'keep' the feast by being a saved person in God's word (a member of his building, not man's) at a particular time around the end of the church age, if you will.
It is the same way with the Feasts of the Lord. People 'keep' the festival of Booths not by doing all the little rituals of building a hut in the wilderness, festooned with the physical acutriments ascribed to the ceremony, but, rather, they 'keep' the feast by being a saved person in God's word (a member of his building, not man's) at a particular time around the end of the church age, if you will.
But these practices are spiritually enlightened?
Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Eze 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
xmas trees and sunrise services for Ishtar?
Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Eze 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
xmas trees and sunrise services for Ishtar?
Yep, here is Paul leading the Corinthians (a Gentile church by the way) astray...
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Wonder why He did this?
Act 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.
Why was the Fast ( the Day of Atonement) mentioned here and used as a season marker by Luke?
From Adam Clarke...
"Sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past - It is generally allowed that the fast mentioned here was that of the great day of atonement which was always celebrated on the tenth day of the seventh month, which would answer to the latter end of our September; see Lev_16:29; Lev_23:27, etc. As this was about the time of the autumnal equinox, when the Mediterranean Sea was sufficiently tempestuous, we may suppose this feast alone to be intended. To sail after this feast was proverbially dangerous among the ancient Jews. See proofs in Schoettgen."
When Christ returns, the world WILL keep the Feasts, there will be no choice...
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Wonder why He did this?
Act 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.
Why was the Fast ( the Day of Atonement) mentioned here and used as a season marker by Luke?
From Adam Clarke...
"Sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past - It is generally allowed that the fast mentioned here was that of the great day of atonement which was always celebrated on the tenth day of the seventh month, which would answer to the latter end of our September; see Lev_16:29; Lev_23:27, etc. As this was about the time of the autumnal equinox, when the Mediterranean Sea was sufficiently tempestuous, we may suppose this feast alone to be intended. To sail after this feast was proverbially dangerous among the ancient Jews. See proofs in Schoettgen."
When Christ returns, the world WILL keep the Feasts, there will be no choice...
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Well, maybe you ought to let Paul and the Corinthian church in on this...
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
They kept the Days of Unleavened Bread twenty some years after the crucifixion.
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
They kept the Days of Unleavened Bread twenty some years after the crucifixion.
It appears that some believe that salvation is meant to keep us ignorant to the plan of salvation. Jesus is the Creator of all things and He actually said we live by every word God has ever spoken. I'm sure He wants us to learn the dynamics of salvation by understanding the concepts of the 3 feasts. Not 7.
Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. (Exodus 23:14)
Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. (Exodus 23:14)
For everyone to understand Laodicea is talking about me. see this post
I was thinking about going to a SDA church cause I though that they esteemed the law as beneficial to Christians seeing they observe a Sabbath Saturday. I wanted a church that taught the "spiritual concepts" by using the past physical practices as a parable of sorts. We are not justified by the works of the law. Period. They don't recognize or teach those things, so I'm not going to an SDA church. I have also mentioned several times that there are 3 feasts to you my friend, not 7. I only recognize 3 feasts. (2 Chronicles 8:13) I want to understand the spiritual concepts of those 3 feasts. That's it.
I was thinking about going to a SDA church cause I though that they esteemed the law as beneficial to Christians seeing they observe a Sabbath Saturday. I wanted a church that taught the "spiritual concepts" by using the past physical practices as a parable of sorts. We are not justified by the works of the law. Period. They don't recognize or teach those things, so I'm not going to an SDA church. I have also mentioned several times that there are 3 feasts to you my friend, not 7. I only recognize 3 feasts. (2 Chronicles 8:13) I want to understand the spiritual concepts of those 3 feasts. That's it.
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being short and hoping I can find this thread after sleep to follow up
Passover is a festival enables us to remember our sinful past and have a first class party to the Lord giving thanks for the freedom he has given us. contrary to popular downturn we are commanded to remember our bondage to sin and celebrate overcoming. Kind of like the words of the song Let me tell you what the lord has done for me.
I saw above conclusions that are not scriptural but supposition. "As I mentioned before if you are going to keep any of the feasts you must also keep the sacrifices with it. Do you not know the very first sacrifice was with Adam and Eve when God slathered an animal and made clothing and were at peace with God.Because the sacrifice was the main part." Fact is God said "I will put an end to your festivals and sacrifices" because he was sick of the attitude they thought they could buy the right to sin with these things.
It has always baffled me people love to feast and festival yet because it is commanded by God they are repulsed. This is because they don't believe and unwilling to enter into fellowship with God.
Fact is the law says several of the feast are to be kept forever, in to eternity. They prefer to be in the world sinning. More than this. these commandments came from Moses time, but kept from Genesis by the patriarchs, kept by Jesus and you propyl don't realize among other place Revelation and ZEC 14 says they will be kept during the minilium reign and the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King the Lord Almighty and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King the Lord Almighty they will have no rain. - - - the Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles..
Passover is a festival enables us to remember our sinful past and have a first class party to the Lord giving thanks for the freedom he has given us. contrary to popular downturn we are commanded to remember our bondage to sin and celebrate overcoming. Kind of like the words of the song Let me tell you what the lord has done for me.
I saw above conclusions that are not scriptural but supposition. "As I mentioned before if you are going to keep any of the feasts you must also keep the sacrifices with it. Do you not know the very first sacrifice was with Adam and Eve when God slathered an animal and made clothing and were at peace with God.Because the sacrifice was the main part." Fact is God said "I will put an end to your festivals and sacrifices" because he was sick of the attitude they thought they could buy the right to sin with these things.
It has always baffled me people love to feast and festival yet because it is commanded by God they are repulsed. This is because they don't believe and unwilling to enter into fellowship with God.
Fact is the law says several of the feast are to be kept forever, in to eternity. They prefer to be in the world sinning. More than this. these commandments came from Moses time, but kept from Genesis by the patriarchs, kept by Jesus and you propyl don't realize among other place Revelation and ZEC 14 says they will be kept during the minilium reign and the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King the Lord Almighty and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King the Lord Almighty they will have no rain. - - - the Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles..