So I want honest answers....

[Tommy379]

Does everything have to be about you? Marijuana can be used for hemp, which has nothing at all to do with using it to get high... Hemp can replace wood pulp in making paper, or be used to make clothing etc.

But why make it so it can make a person high?

 

[laura_charlotte]

But why make it so it can make a person high?

That is not its purpose at all. Anything from the Lord can be misused by man because the enemy will pervert everything for habits, addictions and illness.

 

[Tommy379]

Use you brain buddy!

There are plenty of plants out there for you to eat or smoke that will kill you very quickly!

Marijuana will do that too (as a physician I know what I am talking about).
Apart from the long term risks of smoking marijuana like a multitude of cancers and obstructive lung disease, the shorter term problems like acute psychotic episodes and death resulting from psychosis.
Then we have the well known bridge-effect of people moving on from marijuana to other substances that lead to death from any number of causes!

Harmless it is NOT.

And I'm sure physician malpractice kills more than weed. That's not my point and your post didn't answer the question. I've never consumed marijuana, so I would like to know why God made it the way he did. Other plants can be said to be poisonous for it's own survival.

 

[graceNpeace]

But why make it so it can make a person high?

Well, why don't you ask God that question?

 

[Magenta]

But why make it so it can make a person high?

Hmmm, well, there again you have posed a question that asks why is it there if you can't use it for certain things that are perhaps harmful and/or prohibited to humanity, as if there were no other possible use for them in the enormity of God's creation here on earth. We do not even know all the species that make up our animal and insect populations, nor do we have anything near full understanding of those we are aware of, or how every flora interacts within the realm of its own environment. Also, using marijuana medicinally is quite different than using it "recreationally." Sober living is definitely advocated in Scriptures. Being a pot head is not sober living.

 

[jenniferand2]

Hello jenniferand2,

Just FYI,

"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. Furthermore, they did not repent of their murder,sorcery, sexual immorality, and theft.

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The two words in the scriptures above is the word "pharmakeia, which is where we get the English word Pharmaceutica from," translated as "sorcery." Drugs were/are used in relation to casting spells and incantations. But I believe here it is also referring to recreational drug users, as a means of altering ones spiritual perception.

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells​

Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Short Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment
Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment.HELPS Word-studies
5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson).


NAS Exhaustive Concordance

Word Origin
from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs)
Definition
the use of medicine, drugs or spells
NASB Translation
sorceries (1), sorcery (2).


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

sorcery, witchcraft.

From pharmakeus; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively) -- sorcery, witchcraft. see GREEK pharmakeus

So your saying all medication is evil. Witchcraft?

 

[Tommy379]

Well, why don't you ask God that question?

I did...... so now I'm here.

 

[Tommy379]

Hmmm, well, there again you have posed a question that asks why is it there if you can't use it for certain things that are perhaps harmful and/or prohibited to humanity, as if there were no other possible use for them in the enormity of God's creation here on earth. We do not even know all the species that make up our animal and insect populations, nor do we have anything near full understanding of those we are aware of, or how every flora interacts within the realm of its own environment. Also, using marijuana medicinally is quite different than using it "recreationally." Sober living is definitely advocated in Scriptures. Being a pot head is not sober living.

As far as I can see, medicinal use of marijuana is just getting the patient high.

 

[graceNpeace]

The medicinal use of smoking marijuana is in the context of palliating pain - usually in terminal cancer sufferers.

 

[Magenta]

As far as I can see, medicinal use of marijuana is just getting the patient high.

It does have medicinal properties, even the tea anyone drinks has medicinal properties, for instance, I stopped drinking coffee a couple of day ago (which people use to get them going and keep them going, while others say it does not affect them, though they spend muchos dineros on it monthly- for what purpose?)... and I decided by the middle of the next day that I need the stimulation of peppermint tea because I was just about falling asleep at work without the usual effects of my caffeine hit, and the tea did help... everything we ingest affects us one way or another; we would die without water and we suffer if we do not have a somewhat nutritionally balanced diet. Everything we ingest has some chemical effect on us. Marijuana used medicinally helps with nausea and stimulating the appetite for those undergoing chemo, for instance, and my sister who is a nurse will tell anyone and everyone that her beloved mother in law did not die of cancer but of starvation. Glaucoma sufferers also benefit from medicinal use of marijuana.

However, I would have to agree that it is likely a large percentage of people being prescribed marijuana use it more recreationally than medicinally, though one is led to wonder sometimes about the mental health of some of these people...

 

[Ahwatukee]

So your saying all medication is evil. Witchcraft?

I don't know why people always jump to that conclusion, especially when I did not say that. I'm speaking about those who use drugs recreationally to get stoned, to alter their spiritual perception. It has noting to do with taking aspirins and medication as such for medical purposes. The Lord is the one who searches the hearts and the minds. I'm talking about the meth users, the stoners, the cocaine users, LSD, crack, etc. for the purpose of partying! Though it may seem that they are just abusing drugs, I believe that what they are doing falls under the banner of sorcery, magic arts, witchcraft, depending on which translation you are reading.

 

[graceNpeace]

If something is prescribed it means that your doctor wants you to take it...
In terms of total marijuana use worldwide the amount prescribed marijuana is only a fraction of a percent!

 

[Desertsrose]

As far as I can see, medicinal use of marijuana is just getting the patient high.

I only know of one person who has used marijuana medicinally and she has cancer.


She stopped taking it because it made her tired, not high. She had no desire to do anything and she didn't like the feeling.

 

[Magenta]

If something is prescribed it means that your doctor wants you to take it...
In terms of total marijuana use worldwide the amount prescribed marijuana is only a fraction of a percent!

Many prescribed drugs are approved with such horrible side effects (up to and including death) that it is obvious they are a pharmaceutical, government approved money grab.

 

[Willie-T]

So your saying all medication is evil. Witchcraft?

Probably because you wrote it to sound that way. *I hadn't even read your first post when I read this.... so I went and looked. Sure enough, it sounded exactly like you were trying to make such a point.)

 

[Magenta]

I only know of one person who has used marijuana medicinally and she has cancer.

She stopped taking it because it made her tired, not high. She had no desire to do anything and she didn't like the feeling.

She may have been using Indica. Different strains of pot will have different effects.

 

[Desertsrose]

She may have been using Indica. Different strains of pot will have different effects.

I remember her talking about a strain she was taking, but I don't remember the name, so yeah, Indica could be it.

I remember her saying that it's one that is recommended for those with cancer. Not to get high, but to help deal with pain and nausea from the effects of chemo.

 

[jenniferand2]

I don't know why people always jump to that conclusion, especially when I did not say that. I'm speaking about those who use drugs recreationally to get stoned, to alter their spiritual perception. It has noting to do with taking aspirins and medication as such for medical purposes. The Lord is the one who searches the hearts and the minds. I'm talking about the meth users, the stoners, the cocaine users, LSD, crack, etc. for the purpose of partying! Though it may seem that they are just abusing drugs, I believe that what they are doing falls under the banner of sorcery, magic arts, witchcraft, depending on which translation you are reading.

thank you for clarifying

 

[graceNpeace]

Many prescribed drugs are approved with such horrible side effects (up to and including death) that it is obvious they are a pharmaceutical, government approved money grab.

Lets get this straight:
ANY drug that actually works has side-effects.
You are right that those side effects can be fatal.
Paracetamol and the combined contraceptive pill can and do kill people!

This is why it is so important that for both the doctor and the patient that they are aware of what can happen.
I have had stop a fortune of drugs in my career lifetime that I prescribed because of side-effects.
I have also had to look after a lot of patients in intensive care who were desperately ill because of the side-effects of drugs.

However to claim that the whole thing is just a money grab is plain wrong!
A bit of perspective is required here - the truth is that the most useful drugs in medicine are usually the ones that are the most potentially dangerous when things go wrong.

 

[jenniferand2]

Probably because you wrote it to sound that way. *I hadn't even read your first post when I read this.... so I went and looked. Sure enough, it sounded exactly like you were trying to make such a point.)

No Willie I was seriously asking a question. From what I read of the original post of the witchcraft topic. It sounded like all medicine was witch craft which has me confused