Well, Christians are not anarchists or lawless people. Christians are not slaves to sin. Christians are actually good and they are not evil. Sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). Paul says shall we continue in sin because we are not under the Law (i.e. the Law of Moses)? Paul says, God forbid. For the New Testament says there is a Law of Christ. The New Testament has many Commands to the believer. Even Paul said that what he had written should be considered as the Lord's Commandments. Commandments are Laws. Christians uphold the good ways of God and they do not sin like the devil did in the beginning. Now, can a Christian stumble? Yes, but they do not stay down in the mud in being a slave to sin. Jesus said if you sin, you are a slave to sin. Paul says we are to be slaves of righteousness. Paul says if any man teaches contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing.
So if you are not under the Law, does that mean you are in lawelessness?
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Where did I lie?
Quoting Scrpture to to point out wrong behavior is not a sin.
No, there are plenty of verses that refute the false belief that a believer can sin and still be saved.
Here is a long list of verses that refute such thinking.
I know I am saved from my sin because I have confessed of my sins and I walk in the light as he is in the light (See 1 John 2:1, 1 John 1:9, 1 John 1:7).
And I will be praying the Lord opens your eyes to the truth of what you are not willing to see at this time.
May God's love shine upon you.
And please be well.
Quoting Scrpture to to point out wrong behavior is not a sin.
No, there are plenty of verses that refute the false belief that a believer can sin and still be saved.
Here is a long list of verses that refute such thinking.
I know I am saved from my sin because I have confessed of my sins and I walk in the light as he is in the light (See 1 John 2:1, 1 John 1:9, 1 John 1:7).
And I will be praying the Lord opens your eyes to the truth of what you are not willing to see at this time.
May God's love shine upon you.
And please be well.
It's not only matter of one just sinning like crazy at all. It only took one sin for Adam and Eve to fall and to pass sin upon the entire human race. When a believer says they cannot stop sinning, they are ignoring Scripture and they are trying to justify that they sin on occasion as if that is okay with God (When no such verse teaches that it is okay with Him). Believers are called to repent and forsake of their sins. All of them. For Jesus said, be ye perfect as my Heavenly Father is perfect.
2 Corinthians 3:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Nowhere did I actually call you fools using my own words. Neither was it my intention to outright call anyone a fool. I quoted Scripture that was talking about those who did a particular sin. If one happens to do that particular sin, then they are to be corrected by God's Word. I did not write God's Word. God did. So if you do not like what He says in His Word and how He stands up for certain good things, then take it up with Him and not me.
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You miss the point..............yes even if one's child is a HITLER the parent stills loves the child, NOT loving the behavior but still loving the child. I beleive the heart of God breaks when Jesus is rejected and that person condemns thierself to Hell. There is nothing more that God could do to save us than sacrifice Jesus, for God to have to turn away from His perfect Son (who paid for our sin). Don't you comprehend the cost?
While I believe God and true believers love the sinner but hate the sin, that is not how salvation works, though. For if man could get away with evil and be saved, then why doesn't God just save everyone then? Do you really believe a mental acknowledgment is really what God is looking for? Is that the impression you get when you read the gospels?
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Why did Jesus die? For while we were yet sinners...does that ring a bell??? Do you think that you are showing love???
Did you ever love a pet? When we house break the puupy we don't kill him when he makes a boo boo. We clean it up. show the puppy the paper. Would you kill the puppy that didn't learn quickly enough?
I'm just not seeing you understand the nature of love..............
Did you ever love a pet? When we house break the puupy we don't kill him when he makes a boo boo. We clean it up. show the puppy the paper. Would you kill the puppy that didn't learn quickly enough?
I'm just not seeing you understand the nature of love..............
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Mental acknowledgement????? What's that???? I needed a Savior.
nothing I did or will every do will make me worthy, I could beat my chest and tell everyone what a sinner I am. I could confess to every bad thing to everyone but that is not going to change my heart.
Condemnation does NOT change anyone, the love born in the heart when recognizing Who Jesus is and what He has done makes me WANT to obey. Not focusing on "I will not covet, I will not lie, I will not murder, I will not steal, I will not, I will not, I will not...
True change says I will be like HIM, kind, I will be loving, I will be a blessing, I will help, I will give, and when I mess up....
I AM forgiven, because of Jesus ,not because of my behavior but for the sake of Christ.
nothing I did or will every do will make me worthy, I could beat my chest and tell everyone what a sinner I am. I could confess to every bad thing to everyone but that is not going to change my heart.
Condemnation does NOT change anyone, the love born in the heart when recognizing Who Jesus is and what He has done makes me WANT to obey. Not focusing on "I will not covet, I will not lie, I will not murder, I will not steal, I will not, I will not, I will not...
True change says I will be like HIM, kind, I will be loving, I will be a blessing, I will help, I will give, and when I mess up....
I AM forgiven, because of Jesus ,not because of my behavior but for the sake of Christ.
Your dog pooping on the rug is no way a comparison to when a man sins against God. Yes, God can be merciful and he can forgive great sins, but God is not out to condone anyone's sin anymore than an owner is out to condone their dog in continuing to make little pieces of dried up furniture within their home. Well, there are some people that let this happen. But it is not normal or right.
Are you saying that anyone who commits evil cannot be saved? Haven't we all committed evil or sin and God forgave us. Romans 5:7-8....He died for us while we still sinners, so we could be forgiven of our sins. John 3:16-21
We all have a choice, that is why he doesn't save everyone, he saves everyone who accepts him.....
We all have a choice, that is why he doesn't save everyone, he saves everyone who accepts him.....
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ummm there are no "great" sins or small ones. Sin is sin and the only one that cannot be forgiven is to reject Jesus atonement. God does not put timetables on people, ie, "you've been saved for two years but you still smoke cigarets. Therefore I do not forgive you and you were never saved" Does that sound like a loving Father?
A believer has to endure in their faith. If they just accept Jesus and turn back to their old way of living like nothing has ever happened then they have not shown they are the new man and or that they are born again spiritually. 1 John 2:1 says we are to sin not. But if we do sin, we have an advocate that we can go to named Jesus Christ. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin. 1 John 1:7 says if we walk in the light as he is in the light, then the blood fo Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. So one must continue to walk with the Lord and allow His righteousness to flow thru them. They have to yield to the Lord after having received the free gift of salvation in them repenting of their sins and accepting Him. Nowhere does the Bible teach that a believer can sin on occasion or get away with sin every once and a while. 1 Peter 4:1 says beleivers have ceased from sin by suffering in the flesh. Galatians 5:24 says those that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts. The false prophets are identified by Peter by the fact that they did not cease from sin (2 Peter 2:1, 14).