some things from paul that many omit
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God said Cain could rule over sin, and EG says he can't, and nobody else can either, and if they try to that's the worst sin of all...he INSITS on numbering himself among the wicked. The whole bible on every page separates the saints from the sinners, yet he claims the name of Jesus but numbers himself among the sinners wicked ones...The 3rd commandment says not to take God's name in vain (Call yourself a Christian, but still live like the heathen world and sin which destroys their ambassadorship) I guess he deems all the men like Joseph were wicked/sinners. But the bible says he was righteous, Are we to believe EG or what God said? The simple story of Cain and Abel could be understood by a 5 year old, but groan man cannot?
Why? Because they harden their heart to the point that the word cannot any longer work therein so they trample it underfoot
Why? Because they harden their heart to the point that the word cannot any longer work therein so they trample it underfoot
There is a big difference between those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and ones that just say they do.
The ones that just say they do are always focused on their work. What they must do. Most often they condemn every one else who doesn't have that same "understanding".
Most of the New Testament refutes that silliness.
Galatians 3:2-3
[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
There is no difference between the Pharisees and people like you who are focused on their own work at their 'understanding' of the bible. People like you are always upset when this is pointed out. Legalists and workers always try to point out that the Pharisees weren't working at the "real" law. They were working at something they made up according to their understanding.
Bingo!!! That's exactly what every worker and legalist turns themselves into. Because their understanding is not Gods Understanding. Their power and strength is not Gods Power and Strength. In that way, workers can say they believe but then they deny by their own work and understanding.[/FONT]
The ones that just say they do are always focused on their work. What they must do. Most often they condemn every one else who doesn't have that same "understanding".
Most of the New Testament refutes that silliness.
Galatians 3:2-3
[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
There is no difference between the Pharisees and people like you who are focused on their own work at their 'understanding' of the bible. People like you are always upset when this is pointed out. Legalists and workers always try to point out that the Pharisees weren't working at the "real" law. They were working at something they made up according to their understanding.
Bingo!!! That's exactly what every worker and legalist turns themselves into. Because their understanding is not Gods Understanding. Their power and strength is not Gods Power and Strength. In that way, workers can say they believe but then they deny by their own work and understanding.[/FONT]
Jesus said that there are "many more things" He wanted to tell His disciples but they were not ready for it. This is why there is much more about the work of our Lord than what is written in the 4 gospels.
The Holy Spirit will reveal the things of Christ to us. This is why Paul's revelation of Christ in us and us in Christ is so important to the believer after the cross and resurrection. The cross and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ changed many things.
.John 16:12-15 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
The Holy Spirit will reveal the things of Christ to us. This is why Paul's revelation of Christ in us and us in Christ is so important to the believer after the cross and resurrection. The cross and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ changed many things.
.John 16:12-15 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
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He was another sinner saved by the righteousness of Christ, not of his own self. He knew that to say he did not sin it would make God out to be the liar Rather than his own self.
We are saved by Christ’s work of faith, the faith of God ,his labor of love and not that of our own selves lest any boast in vain of things he has not.
No man will be found with a righteousness of their own self. The righteousness of Job ,Josef. or Abraham , is that of Christ .
They died sinners, falling short of the glory of God every day of their lives
We are saved by Christ’s work of faith, the faith of God ,his labor of love and not that of our own selves lest any boast in vain of things he has not.
No man will be found with a righteousness of their own self. The righteousness of Job ,Josef. or Abraham , is that of Christ .
They died sinners, falling short of the glory of God every day of their lives
Did God believe Abraham believed until he put Isaac ready to be sacrificed?
"Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”
Gen 22:12
Do any of us know what we really are or mean to do, until actions are matched with
our words?
It is very easy to believe you will do this or that, and suddenly realise you will not.
The parable of the two sons Matt 21:28-32
Two sons. Father asks them "Go and work in the vineyard" One says no but goes
the other says they will go but does not. Which one does the Fathers will?
So actions matter and prove the words or intentions of the heart.
So if we condemn the working of the two together, we have not understood the nature of
following God or doing the Lords will.
But this strange theology of just words that define faith, is just an invention of
the minds of the people who hold it. It is just a delusion of the mind and could
go anywhere in their lives, because there are no rules or reference points.
Even Jesus understood the connection between intentions and actions, so told
the parable of the Two Sons.
"Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”
Gen 22:12
Do any of us know what we really are or mean to do, until actions are matched with
our words?
It is very easy to believe you will do this or that, and suddenly realise you will not.
The parable of the two sons Matt 21:28-32
Two sons. Father asks them "Go and work in the vineyard" One says no but goes
the other says they will go but does not. Which one does the Fathers will?
So actions matter and prove the words or intentions of the heart.
So if we condemn the working of the two together, we have not understood the nature of
following God or doing the Lords will.
But this strange theology of just words that define faith, is just an invention of
the minds of the people who hold it. It is just a delusion of the mind and could
go anywhere in their lives, because there are no rules or reference points.
Even Jesus understood the connection between intentions and actions, so told
the parable of the Two Sons.
Amen, we are in agreement.
Our faith in God produces obedience to the law of Christ, because loving your
neighbour fulfills the law.
And in fulfilling the law we walk righteously.
And just as everytime a snake bit a person they were healed by looking at the
bronze snake, so everytime some stumbles in sin, they find forgiveness through
repentance and confession and faith in the cross, for healing and restoration.
But for those who find it hard to forgive, shut love out of part of their lives,
this makes all of this impossible. It is like a log jam, which is only a reality
in this believers heart. Forgive and let love reign and victory shall be yours.
Our faith in God produces obedience to the law of Christ, because loving your
neighbour fulfills the law.
And in fulfilling the law we walk righteously.
And just as everytime a snake bit a person they were healed by looking at the
bronze snake, so everytime some stumbles in sin, they find forgiveness through
repentance and confession and faith in the cross, for healing and restoration.
But for those who find it hard to forgive, shut love out of part of their lives,
this makes all of this impossible. It is like a log jam, which is only a reality
in this believers heart. Forgive and let love reign and victory shall be yours.
Maybe a better translation of ideas
Works to produce faith, the works will fail and by hypocritical and the faith empty.
Faith that transforms the heart which show in works is salvation.
Faith, words, that have no effect on the heart, is dead and empty.
Works show the effect of the faith in our lives, love breaking free, overcoming sin,
breaking up the soil of a hard lost heart, and bringing new life.
Now are we in agreement about this definition?
How could the Holy Spirit working in a persons life not bring forth love and joy,
transformation and victory? God is the Lord of life, the creator of the universe
and promises this reality, and has done it in millions of lives, so why not now?
Works to produce faith, the works will fail and by hypocritical and the faith empty.
Faith that transforms the heart which show in works is salvation.
Faith, words, that have no effect on the heart, is dead and empty.
Works show the effect of the faith in our lives, love breaking free, overcoming sin,
breaking up the soil of a hard lost heart, and bringing new life.
Now are we in agreement about this definition?
How could the Holy Spirit working in a persons life not bring forth love and joy,
transformation and victory? God is the Lord of life, the creator of the universe
and promises this reality, and has done it in millions of lives, so why not now?
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do you even know what the word sinner means iin the text? It means to be engaged in the vile sins of the flesh that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom...ezekiel said it is an abomination to God to call a righteous man a sinner,,,watch your mouth sir and repent, and quit trying to bring Daniel down to your level of admitted sinfulness...God delivered Daniel because of his own righteousness Ezek. 14.....what God declares righteous you call sinful!!! Blasphemoy, Shame on you go and wash your mouth out with soap...show me one act of sin in the scriptures that Daniel is accused of?
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you seem to have no understanding of the difference between willful rebellion and sins of ignorance..the day of atonement was not for willful vile sins of the flesh, those people were already dead, it was for mistakes and sins of ignorance, look it up.......Daniel was not a sinner or in willful rebellion to God, neither was JOB, or Mary.....the HOLY BIBLE, was in inspired by a HOLY GOD, and written by HOLY MEN OF OLD,. what part of HOLY do you not understand...it was not written by SINNERS OF OLD
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wow.
Daniel willfully called the woman to his room, and willfully had sex with her
Daniel willfully tried to decieve by having her husband have sex with so they could say it was his. When he refused, Daniel willfully had him killed.
I do not know who you are listening to. but you need ot run, far far away from them
All sin is willful sin, (except sins of ignorance which even then, we have no excuse, and are called law breakers when we commit them) Anyone who says otherwise just wants to excuse their own sin..
