Speaking in tongues
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The warning is not to add or substract. All new revelations(prophecy) as a possibility of more has ben sealed up till the end of time.
Some simply go above that which is written. we have the complete or perfect .
The perfect has come. No more new wisdom coming from God, no knew knowledge or new spiritual laws .
We have all the information needed to know as God knows us .We cannot know more than he reveals.
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Nope, it is not unfruitful. Yep, God gave us his word to we would be able to know him. It is written: Speaking in tongues - edifies the individual (1 Cor. 14:4) and in a group, when interpreted, it edifies the church (1 Cor. 5b). The purpose of language is communication - It is written: When one speaks in tongues, he is speaking to God (1 Cor. 14:2), when one speaks in tongues and interprets - he is communicating to the church and therefore speaking words via the gift of holy spirit to edify the church (1 Cor. 5b). The Holy Spirit (God) gave us the gift of holy spirit to teach us, to guide us, to comfort us (John 16).
Yes, God did prophesy of a coming Redeemer and Jesus did redeem us and imputed righteousness to us.
Jesus Christ poured out the promise of the Father, the gift of holy spirit. We testify of that gift of holy spirit by speaking in tongues and interpreting in the church, that is why it is a sign to unbelievers. Everyone in the church "building" is not a believer, that is if your church is receiving new people.
No one has said that "no knowledge is a good thing." But considering that you believe tongues have ceased - then in the same sense, word of knowledge has ceased - meaning God does not speak to us individually to guide us in certain circumstances and situations that may not be individually specific through scripture. Which would bring us back to communication - God still does communicate with us - just listen for that still small voice.
Yes, God did prophesy of a coming Redeemer and Jesus did redeem us and imputed righteousness to us.
Jesus Christ poured out the promise of the Father, the gift of holy spirit. We testify of that gift of holy spirit by speaking in tongues and interpreting in the church, that is why it is a sign to unbelievers. Everyone in the church "building" is not a believer, that is if your church is receiving new people.
No one has said that "no knowledge is a good thing." But considering that you believe tongues have ceased - then in the same sense, word of knowledge has ceased - meaning God does not speak to us individually to guide us in certain circumstances and situations that may not be individually specific through scripture. Which would bring us back to communication - God still does communicate with us - just listen for that still small voice.
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1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
God speaks to us through His word the bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Those who speak in unknown tongues speak into the air.
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
God speaks to us through His word the bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Those who speak in unknown tongues speak into the air.
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Yes, it is unfruitful to my mind because I do not understand what I am saying - but God understands what I am saying because it is my spirit communicating with him. (1 Cor. 14:2) It is fruitful in that it edifies me - (1 Cor. 14:4a)
Roger, do you pray? Are there things in life that you ask God and need answers to - maybe in a job situation, a relationship situation that is just specific to you? Then you need a message of knowledge and a message of wisdom from God . . . God is our Father and we can't very well have a relationship without communication - we talk to him - he talks to us and not just through his word. Scripture doesn't specifically speak on which job would be the best for me . . . . how to handle a situation at work . . . sometimes we each need specific individual guidance in our lives.
1 Cor. 14:5 I would that you all speak with tongues, but rather that you prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks in tongues, EXCEPT (UNLESS) he interpret, that the church may receive edifying . . . v6-11 explain why one needs to interpret concluding with v12, 13 Even so you, forasmuch as you are zealous of spiritual (gifts, added) seek that you may excel to the edifying of the church. WHEREFORE let him that speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
Roger, do you pray? Are there things in life that you ask God and need answers to - maybe in a job situation, a relationship situation that is just specific to you? Then you need a message of knowledge and a message of wisdom from God . . . God is our Father and we can't very well have a relationship without communication - we talk to him - he talks to us and not just through his word. Scripture doesn't specifically speak on which job would be the best for me . . . . how to handle a situation at work . . . sometimes we each need specific individual guidance in our lives.
1 Cor. 14:5 I would that you all speak with tongues, but rather that you prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks in tongues, EXCEPT (UNLESS) he interpret, that the church may receive edifying . . . v6-11 explain why one needs to interpret concluding with v12, 13 Even so you, forasmuch as you are zealous of spiritual (gifts, added) seek that you may excel to the edifying of the church. WHEREFORE let him that speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
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the conterxt of 1cor 13 8-11 has nothing to do with new revelations. it has to do with how we need the Holy Spirit and use the gifts until we see HIM face to face and we shall be fully known . That has not happen, No one can fully know all the word of God.
That being said No man can create anew word from God. That too is wrong.
That being said No man can create anew word from God. That too is wrong.
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This debate rests on the claims of some who are professing to speak in supernatural languages, correct?
This debate could easily be settled, Either the claimants prove what they are claiming is supernatural or simply use the reasoning behind transubtantiation and call modern day tongues a matter of unprovable faith apart from sight.
It is rather disingenuous to present textual evidence for on-going physical events. This is like using a physics textbook to prove the existence of gravity.
This debate could easily be settled, Either the claimants prove what they are claiming is supernatural or simply use the reasoning behind transubtantiation and call modern day tongues a matter of unprovable faith apart from sight.
It is rather disingenuous to present textual evidence for on-going physical events. This is like using a physics textbook to prove the existence of gravity.
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