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being able to turn to a one chapter in the bible is painful to someone with many name names.
you could over look why this chapter is in the bible. the question to all is how to define the difference between spiritual and worldly.
1 Corinthians 12: Spiritual Gifts
1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.2 You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led.3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says "Jesus is accursed!" and no one can say "Jesus is Lord" except in the Holy Spirit.
4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit;5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit,9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
One Body with Many Members
12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body---Jews or Greeks, slaves or free---and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
14 For the body does not consist of one member but of many.15 If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body.16 And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body.17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell?18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose.19 If all were a single member, where would the body be?20 As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."22 On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,23 and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty,24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it,25 that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.
27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts.
And I will show you a still more excellent way.
you could over look why this chapter is in the bible. the question to all is how to define the difference between spiritual and worldly.
1 Corinthians 12: Spiritual Gifts
1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.2 You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led.3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says "Jesus is accursed!" and no one can say "Jesus is Lord" except in the Holy Spirit.
4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit;5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit,9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
One Body with Many Members
12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body---Jews or Greeks, slaves or free---and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
14 For the body does not consist of one member but of many.15 If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body.16 And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body.17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell?18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose.19 If all were a single member, where would the body be?20 As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."22 On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,23 and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty,24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it,25 that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.
27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts.
And I will show you a still more excellent way.
I'm silly? You didn't even catch what he said about ministering in the fleshly realm first, then in the spiritual , or cosmic realm second.
A five point program with no biblical backing or biblical emphasis. A carnal plan to bring spiritual results.
I understand it's nothing for some people to be so gullible to listen to a whole sermon without having to open their Bibles, but I have to have Biblical evidence to be a Berean to check & see if it's true. No verses means no evidence, Period!
And you have the audacity to call me silly.
A five point program with no biblical backing or biblical emphasis. A carnal plan to bring spiritual results.
I understand it's nothing for some people to be so gullible to listen to a whole sermon without having to open their Bibles, but I have to have Biblical evidence to be a Berean to check & see if it's true. No verses means no evidence, Period!
And you have the audacity to call me silly.
The word "cosmic" means different things to different people.
There is a biblical use as the word cosmic is from the Greek word "cosmos" which means "an order or arrangement". It is also used as defining the world system.
kosmos indicates the presence of “order” and “arrangement,”
Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Zeta-Kappa.
Here is how we today can define the word "cosmic" according to the dictionary.
adjective
1. of or relating to the cosmos :
cosmic laws.
2. characteristic of the cosmos or its phenomena:
cosmic events.
3.
immeasurably extended in time and space; vast.
4.
forming a part of the material universe, especially outside of the earth.
Just because some New Age people used the word "cosmic" sometimes does that make everyone else that uses the word a New Ager? Of course not. Why do we let other people hi-jack words? That's just religious nonsense.
They also use the word "meditate" - should we call every minister a New Ager now if they mention the word "meditate". It's time for all of us to give our religious heads a shake and come out of the fog of religion.
There is a biblical use as the word cosmic is from the Greek word "cosmos" which means "an order or arrangement". It is also used as defining the world system.
kosmos indicates the presence of “order” and “arrangement,”
Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Zeta-Kappa.
Here is how we today can define the word "cosmic" according to the dictionary.
adjective
1. of or relating to the cosmos :
cosmic laws.
2. characteristic of the cosmos or its phenomena:
cosmic events.
3.
immeasurably extended in time and space; vast.
4.
forming a part of the material universe, especially outside of the earth.
Just because some New Age people used the word "cosmic" sometimes does that make everyone else that uses the word a New Ager? Of course not. Why do we let other people hi-jack words? That's just religious nonsense.
They also use the word "meditate" - should we call every minister a New Ager now if they mention the word "meditate". It's time for all of us to give our religious heads a shake and come out of the fog of religion.
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That's cool. But for future information, that video was an advanced seminar given to Pastors and Leaders who wanted to hear about some way to minister to people when neither they nor the people really knew how to even comfortably approach the subject being taught about. This was just a suggested way of giving some sort of reasonable order and format to what they were learning to do, so they didn't just stumble around, and to also help the people coming for ministry to feel there was a purpose they could understand.
We all do the same thing with our Sunday morning worship services.
We all do the same thing with our Sunday morning worship services.
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Okay let's break it down....
1. Satan has planted wolves and tares among the sheep and wheat...can provide bible verses as needed.
2.
His purpose for those people is to abuse the sheep and make them run away from home. Not grow in Christ and become functioning members of the Body of Christ.
Do folks need Biblical proof that this is true?
3. How to recognize wolves. I posted scripture early, can repost if needed.
4. Honest question, topic of the thread
How do you heal from the abuse or help others heal?
5. Admit I am unsure but that I was healed by prayer and love of my brethren.
6. Suggestion see how people suffering from other types of abuse HEAL and learn from it.
Why am I being attacked for posting this again?
1. Satan has planted wolves and tares among the sheep and wheat...can provide bible verses as needed.
2.
His purpose for those people is to abuse the sheep and make them run away from home. Not grow in Christ and become functioning members of the Body of Christ.
Do folks need Biblical proof that this is true?
3. How to recognize wolves. I posted scripture early, can repost if needed.
4. Honest question, topic of the thread
How do you heal from the abuse or help others heal?
5. Admit I am unsure but that I was healed by prayer and love of my brethren.
6. Suggestion see how people suffering from other types of abuse HEAL and learn from it.
Why am I being attacked for posting this again?
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Then I posted abuse helplines because i have meet people on this forum who have been or still,being abused.
They didn't see a way out.
I am not on here all the,time but figured if you saw someone telling you that they were being abused you could,pass on the,helplines...
Then I said a prayer.
I still don't understand why it has caused such anger in folks.
They didn't see a way out.
I am not on here all the,time but figured if you saw someone telling you that they were being abused you could,pass on the,helplines...
Then I said a prayer.
I still don't understand why it has caused such anger in folks.