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Genuine believers may stumble but they never fall.
No permanent fall for genuine believers. :) Proverbs 24:16 - For a righteous man may fall seven times and rise again but the wicked shall fall by calamity.
 
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Acts 18:19-21 [brackets mine]
And he came to Ephesus
, and left [Priscilla and Aquila] there: but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews.

20 When they desired him to tarry longer time with them, he consented not; But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.


Paul entered Ephesus and went to the synagogue to preach and these Jews accepted his gospel. Again, the custom is 'on the sabbath, listen to the law, and then receive a word from a speaker'. There's no record of Gentiles in attendance but they likely are since we know that Paul is an apostle to the Gentiles. And this is the same Ephesus to which Paul sent his letter...


Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:


So the group of believers at Ephesus - who are recorded as Jews (and assume by me to include Gentiles) - is called saints and faithful. So far, the takeaways I'm trying to point out are that:

1. It isn't as simple as to say the church is a separate work from the Jews, because a multitude of Jews was referred to as "church" or "saints" in Paul's letters.

2. Many, many Gentiles followed the custom of the Jews and regularly attended the synagogue on the sabbath, hearing the law read and then a word from a speaker.

3. It was these Gentiles that Paul preached to in the synagogue - who had already been primed with the law every sabbath (because the law leads to Christ) - who more easily accepted the gospel of Christ; and that without that primer the gospel wasn't as effective in converting the hearts of Gentiles, as we see through Paul's experience in Athens as a street preacher.
Yes Paul preached in the synagogues that Jesus was the Christ. Yes gentiles attended they were called "friends of God" by the Jews. They were those who were attracted to the monotheism and moral character of the Jewish religion as opposed to the lunacy of paganism.

They heard Paul preach from the scriptures that Jesus was the Christ. Eventually the rulers of the synagogues who took orders from the Sanhedrin were stirred up to evict Paul and his converts. This happened eventually almost every where he visited. By then he had made converts both Jews and gentiles and they started meeting elsewhere on the first day of the week.

Then when the first Council in Jerusalem came about they said for those who want to hear Moses preached they can go to any synagogue on the sabbath if they want to hear about circumcision, sabbath keeping, or dietary laws.

And I say the same to you today who want to hear about that. Go to a synagogue on the Sabbath and hear Moses preached about these things, meanwhile the church will not be teaching their converts to keep sabbaths and get circumcised and abstain from pork.
Now excuse me why I cook up some Pork tenderloin Carnita tacos.
 

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Acts 20:7 (KJV) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Acts 20:7 (Textus receptus) Ἐν δὲ τῇ μιᾷ τῶν σαββάτων συνηγμένων τῶν μαθητῶν τοῦ κλάσαι ἄρτον ὁ Παῦλος διελέγετο αὐτοῖς μέλλων ἐξιέναι τῇ ἐπαύριον παρέτεινέν τε τὸν λόγον μέχρι μεσονυκτίου

Even the King James Version did not correct the bible's corruption, probably by the Roman Catholic Church:

Acts 20:7 (Interlinear) And g1161 δὲ ; upon g1722 Ἐν ; the first g1520 μιᾷ ; (Greek: Sabbaton - English: Sabbath) g4521 σαββάτων

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4521&t=KJV

G4521:
Greek: Sabatton, English: Sabbath
  • the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
    1. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
    2. a single sabbath, sabbath day
Acts 20:7 "And upon the first Sabbath, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
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So far, from Acts 13 to Acts 20, we read that Paul has attended synagogue every sabbath wherever he went and was most effective in preaching the gospel to the Gentiles who attended synagogue rather than to those Gentiles who hadn't attended synagogue on the sabbath but who lived a life of idolatry.

And while it can be strongly argued that Acts 20:7 originally says "upon the first sabbath", even if we keep the current understanding as "first day of the week", we still see through the other passages that Paul's tendency was to worship with the church - both Jew and Gentile believers - and first preach the gospel in the synagogue on the sabbath (as was his custom - as a Jew - to follow all the law).

It's the only reason why I won't argue that the text was changed here.
 

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Acts 20:6
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


Paul honored the Feast of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath), stayed a week in Troas raising the man who had died, before continuing his travels, as he desired to rush back to Jerusalem in time for Pentecost/Feast of Weeks (a High Sabbath).


Acts 20:16
For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.


Determined to get back to Jerusalem to celebrate the High Sabbath, he bids his disciples farewell, saying...


Acts 20:19-21
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, 21Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.


Again, Paul taught both Jews and Gentiles, and he taught them (1) repentance and (2) faith in Messiah. It's always the same one-two punch throughout the NT:

- Moses; Messiah
- Law; Grace
- Obedience; Faith
 

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To this day Saturday in English translates to Sabbato ( Σάββατο - Sávvato ) in Greek: https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=el&text=Saturday&op=translate

So if you intend on keeping God's wishes, to keep his eternal Sabbath, like the Jewish Christians did, but maybe not the Gentiles, as it is an eternal command from God to Israel (ancient southern kingdom Judea Judah-tribes among the Jews, and ancient northern kingdom Samaria currently identity-less Ephraim-tribes scattered among the Gentiles), it is on Saturday and will be kept by Christ Yeshua believing Israel's component of the church forever. Christ Yeshua believing Israel, eternally keeping the Sabbath day on Saturday should not bring a division between them and Christ Yeshua non-Israel believers. God's elect Christians consist of Christ Yeshua believing Israel's Judah-tribes among the Jews, Christ Yeshau believing Israel's identity-less Ephraim-tribes scattered among the Gentiles, and Christ Yeshua believing Gentiles not of Israel adoption nor descent whishing to retain their Gentile identity. In the millennial Kingdom under the rule of Christ Yeshua from Jerusalem in Israel on this earth, the land of Israel itself will be inhabited by Christ Yeshua believing Israel's Judah-tribes among the Jews & Christ Yeshau believing Israel's identity-regained Ephraim-tribes gathered from among the Gentiles (Ezekiel 37). In the millennial Kingdom under the rule of Christ Yeshua from Jerusalem in Israel on this earth, the Christ Yeshua believing Gentiles not of Israel adoption nor descent whishing to retain their Gentile identity, will come each year to Jerusalem. The Sabbath will be observed in Israel under Christ Yeshua's millennial reign from Jerusalem (Ezekiel 37 - 48). So if you have a longing in your heart, to observe the Sabbath, not being from Judah's tribes among the Jews, you are most probably feeling in your innermost parts and your heart that you belong to Christ Yeshau's believing Israel's currently still identity-less Ephraim-tribes currently still scattered among the Gentiles. ( https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...nce-their-assyrian-captivity-of-740bc.195657/ ). Whether you will one day in the millennial Kingdom be among the nation of Israel, or among the Gentiles, we will all be governed by Christ Yeshua.

https://translate.google.com/?sl=la&tl=en&text=sabbatum&op=translate Latin: sabbatum , English: Saturday
 

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So far, from Acts 13 to Acts 20, we read that Paul has attended synagogue every sabbath wherever he went and was most effective in preaching the gospel to the Gentiles who attended synagogue rather than to those Gentiles who hadn't attended synagogue on the sabbath but who lived a life of idolatry.

And while it can be strongly argued that Acts 20:7 originally says "upon the first sabbath", even if we keep the current understanding as "first day of the week", we still see through the other passages that Paul's tendency was to worship with the church - both Jew and Gentile believers - and first preach the gospel in the synagogue on the sabbath (as was his custom - as a Jew - to follow all the law).

It's the only reason why I won't argue that the text was changed here.
It probably was not changed, and may indeed also refer to "first day of the week", and not "first sabbath", as G4521 sabbaton
σάββατον is translated throughout the bible as Sabbath OR Week, I've now realised. As where the bible refers to Jesus being risen "on the first day of the week" G4521 sabbaton σάββατον is also used. Whether they gathered on the first day of the week, or on the Sabbath (Saturday), just not however changed whether Christ Yeshua believing Israelites (Judah's tribes among the Jews in this instance, as Ephraim's tribes among the Gentiles are to this day still scattered, and will only be gathered, Ezekiel 37, from among the Gentiles, at the return of Christ Yeshua after the great tribulation at the rapture of all God's elect Christians from among Israel and the Gentiles) kept the Sabbath as a day of rest or not.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4521&t=KJV
  1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
    1. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
    2. a single sabbath, sabbath day
  2. seven days, a week
 

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Acts 20:6
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


Paul honored the Feast of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath), stayed a week in Troas raising the man who had died, before continuing his travels, as he desired to rush back to Jerusalem in time for Pentecost/Feast of Weeks (a High Sabbath).


Acts 20:16
For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.


Determined to get back to Jerusalem to celebrate the High Sabbath, he bids his disciples farewell, saying...


Acts 20:19-21
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, 21Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.


Again, Paul taught both Jews and Gentiles, and he taught them (1) repentance and (2) faith in Messiah. It's always the same one-two punch throughout the NT:

- Moses; Messiah
- Law; Grace
- Obedience; Faith
Yahshua: "Again, Paul taught both Jews and Gentiles, and he taught them (1) repentance and (2) faith in Messiah. It's always the same one-two punch throughout the NT:

- Moses; Messiah
- Law; Grace
- Obedience; Faith "


Yes, even until Revelation we find the "Obedience; Faith" combination:

Revelation 12 (New King James Version)
17And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus [c]Christ.

Revelation 14 (New King James Version)
12Here is the [g]patience of the saints; here[h] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
 

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The following is the last time Paul is free (if I'm not mistaken), returning to Jerusalem...


Acts 21:17-25
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication



Paul returns to Jerusalem and to the brethren giving his report. James instructs him to participate in a Nazarite vow (custom found in the law) showing the Jews in Jerusalem that he obeys the law and that he hasn't been preaching to Jews that they abandon it; unfounded accusations.

Meanwhile, James reaffirms his specific instructions to Gentile believers that no additional customs be placed on them than the ones given back in Acts 15.


Acts 15:19-21
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
 

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The following is the last time Paul is free (if I'm not mistaken), returning to Jerusalem...


Acts 21:17-25
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication



Paul returns to Jerusalem and to the brethren giving his report. James instructs him to participate in a Nazarite vow (custom found in the law) showing the Jews in Jerusalem that he obeys the law and that he hasn't been preaching to Jews that they abandon it; unfounded accusations.

Meanwhile, James reaffirms his specific instructions to Gentile believers that no additional customs be placed on them than the ones given back in Acts 15.


Acts 15:19-21
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Yes, there is a distinction of what is the will of-, and what is commanded by God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit from an Israelite (Judah-tribes among the Jews, and Ephraim-tribes scattered among the Gentiles) Christian and a Gentile Christian saved by grace, through faith in Christ Yeshua, for good works prepared beforehand by God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
 
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Acts 20:6
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


Paul honored the Feast of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath), stayed a week in Troas raising the man who had died, before continuing his travels, as he desired to rush back to Jerusalem in time for Pentecost/Feast of Weeks (a High Sabbath).


Acts 20:16
For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.


Determined to get back to Jerusalem to celebrate the High Sabbath, he bids his disciples farewell, saying...


Acts 20:19-21
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, 21Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.


Again, Paul taught both Jews and Gentiles, and he taught them (1) repentance and (2) faith in Messiah. It's always the same one-two punch throughout the NT:

- Moses; Messiah
- Law; Grace
- Obedience; Faith
Paul even made vows, shaved his head, and other Jewish customs.
 

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The following is the last time Paul is free (if I'm not mistaken), returning to Jerusalem...


Acts 21:17-25
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication



Paul returns to Jerusalem and to the brethren giving his report. James instructs him to participate in a Nazarite vow (custom found in the law) showing the Jews in Jerusalem that he obeys the law and that he hasn't been preaching to Jews that they abandon it; unfounded accusations.

Meanwhile, James reaffirms his specific instructions to Gentile believers that no additional customs be placed on them than the ones given back in Acts 15.


Acts 15:19-21
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Yes, there is a distinction of what is the will of-, and what is commanded by God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit from an Israelite (Judah-tribes among the Jews, and Ephraim-tribes scattered among the Gentiles) Christian and a Gentile Christian saved by grace, through faith in Christ Yeshua, for good works prepared beforehand by God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

But beware of John Nelson Darby, et. al.'s Christian zionism (that can not wait patiently for the fulfilment in Christ Yeshua, of God's land promises to Israel, to be fulfilled at Christ Yeshua's return to earth, after the great tribulation, at our rapture), trying to split the body of Christ into two, having Israelite (Judah-tribes among the Jews, Ephraim-tribes scattered among the Gentiles) believers to be a separate entity than Gentile believers - which is untrue - they are both one in Christ Yeshua - God's elect, his church, who will both enter Christ Yeshua's millennial Kingdom here on earth, with the Israel believers in the land of Israel, and the Gentile believers in the nations, coming to Jerusalem each year to bring their offerings.

https://www.equip.org/article/a-biblical-response-to-christian-zionism/

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A Biblical Response to Christian Zionism
Synopsis

Christian Zionism—which predates secular Zionism by more than half a century—is constructed along two major theological fault lines. First, Christian Zionists are convinced that the land promises God made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are as yet unfulfilled. The principal flaw here is a failure to recognize that all the types and shadows of the Old Covenant, including the holy land of Israel, the holy city Jerusalem, and the holy temple, have been fulfilled in the holy Christ. Second, at the heart of Christian Zionism is the dispensational notion that God has two distinct people, one of whom must be raptured before He can continue His plan with the other. Scripture, however, reveals one chosen people who form one covenant community, beautifully symbolized as one cultivated olive tree.

Zionism is a religiopolitical movement committed to the establishment of an autonomous Jewish state, with Jerusalem as its capital, and a rebuilt temple as its center of spiritual and sociological identity. Christian Zionism—which predates secular Zionism by more than half a century—is constructed along two major theological fault lines. First is the misconception that the Holy Land, the Holy City, and the Holy Temple continue to have theological significance. Second is the myth that God has two distinct people. Only one of those peoples—the Jews—will suffer tribulation. The other—the church—will be removed from the world in a secret coming seven years prior to the second coming of Christ. This distinctive twist on Scripture is known as dispensational eschatology.

Anti-Semitism is a horrific evil—especially when justified in the name of religion. Hitler, however, needed no such pretext.

As the smoke from the crematoriums wafted over steeples in the German countryside, another evil reared its ugly head. German pastors and parishioners remained strangely silent. For some, it was simply a matter of self-preservation. Others sought to justify their apathy by blaming Jews for the Great War. Still others believed that Jews were fatalistically destined to face the wrath of Antichrist— and thus did nothing.
 

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Ultimateprepper, a simple answer is duh yes. All of us would be keeping the Sabbath when Jesus was walking this earth. We would be Jewish. There was no Churches no Christians. All were still under the law keeping the law. Its as if Jesus died rose AMEN GLORY TO JESUS and still nothing changed.

Theres always those that seem to love the word of God.. the lord so much they just have to tell others what His word is really saying. For some odd reason they are not seeing what we can see huh :) Always someone telling others as in HIS KIDS how they should be living or obeying. Yet they should know is.. there is not one believer on this planet that is here to please man nor answer to. Its not my word to tell YOU what HE really meant.

Did you truly ask wanting to hear back? Knowing some will not agree with you. Sorry but your my personal belief is not His word. For me to defend that would be worthless. Not saying I agree with all you believe but we all grow in the lord differently. Some are still drinking milk talking as if its meat. From the start.. say you believe we should be meeting Fri night to Sat night. Praise GOD! yet I disagree. Yeah thats it. Now shall we talk about the differences? I can listen.. and not be offended nor will I have to ever say YOUR WRONG!

Did you now if Christ showed up and just chatted with you.. He would listen to ever word you said. He listens.. and after some time it would hit you.. OH MY.. I am talking to GOD! He knows everything yet never once made me feel small stupid.. do you see? Now go its not how others talk act.. its how are WE acting talking. I love meeting on Sundays.. and as they did I do.. it was never meant to replace the Sabbath. I know for me the Father does not expect me to adhere to do everything He told His people. Yet there are things I should do..

This is what I see here.. how to you talk to a wall. Why ask? Say that your here only to tell us why we have it believe wrong. Or listen and don't shoot them down no matter what they say. Be like.. wow could I be any more GODLY! haha NOT!
 

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The first churches meeting on the first day of the week was not to replace the sabbath. It was not intended to be considered as a sabbath or any such part of the Law of Moses.

So now that we have agreed on that fact, we can agree that they did indeed meet on the first day of the week. When they did, their meetings included things like communion, observing the Lords Supper, breaking of bread in fellowship including a communal meal. Eating together has always been a Christian method of fellowship.

They heard preaching and teaching. They sang hymns and most importantly they prayed. And not just your little 30 second beginning and ending prayer, they prayed for long stretches all together, out loud. It was a noisy. It is believed by most scholars and historians that they probably borrowed some of their meeting format from what they were used to doing in synagogues on the sabbath, as the initial converts were mostly Jews. However their meetings on the first day of the week was as a separate CHRISTIAN fellowship not to be confused with the synagogue and not associated with the Jewish religion ruled by the Pharisees and Sandhedrin and rulers of synagogues. They meet separately as a unique entity called the Church and they met on the first day of the week. Many of them went to synagogues on the sabbath and meet with the christian church on the first day of the week.

As to the interpretation of 1 Cor 16 1-2 if Paul did not want a collection to be taken up when he got there, or that it should have already been done on the first day of each week, it is the most natural interpretation that he is saying "when you meet on the first day of the week (as was the custom of all the churches), let each man give a portion as God has prospered him toward this offering and when I come you will not have to take up an offering as it will have already been done and waiting for me, because you did it each Sunday for this purpose."
That is how I and millions of others have interpreted it for 2000 years. I am sorry if you have been taught to make it mean something completely different by some unsavory characters who bristle at the idea that their sabbath was threatened. This in no way means that the sabbath was being replaced by the fact that Christians met on the first day of the week.
Once you realize this you can back off the bad hermeneutics.
What so many do not understand: that biblically, "on the beginning of the first day of the week" is what we commonly call "on Saturday, after twilight." It is not our Sunday morning.
It is never what we commonly call "on Sunday morning at about 9 a.m." It is what we call "Saturday at around 5:30 p.m. That is "on the first day of the week biblically.
It is a real head-twister for us.
This is very important if we are to understand the Bible, what our L_RD does, when the groups put their offerings together, when they gathered their own food and ate together, etc.
 
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The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath. Those are Jesus’ words. ❤️
 

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The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath. Those are Jesus’ words. ❤️
That being said, man would be wise to 'Remember' to abide by the Sabbath. Admittedly, I have neglected to do so through the years. I believe that the Sabbath is a complex subject or at least I have made it that way and it is now my perception that it's complicated.
 

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Genuine believers don’t permanently fall away or seek to be justified by the law. Who do you think you’re fooling?
Absolutely! Regarding works, though, there are only some who try to be justified by works, but that will never work for anyone whether those works are those of the Law, baptism, circumcision, preaching, "being good," or any other works. There is only one way to be justified because there is No One who can be that good. I recognize that some may think this way, but . . . .
 
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