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so do we run around pre-emptively attacking everybody out there because somebody declares them to be the next hitler?
this is a sick joke.

it really is.
everybody Israel doesn't like is hitler.

and yet - here we are - the US & Irseal ALLIED with SAUDI ARABIA....the House of Saud!!
it's just unreal.

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The Other Frankfurt School
Mark P. Worrell

The findings of the labor project were, on the surface at least, horrifying and dramatically undermined Horkheimer's earlier assumptions regarding labor prejudice. The ISR found that the interviewed workers possessed zero capacity for radical thought and, much to their surprise, discovered that roughly 21% of the workers were extreme authoritarians and virtually Nazi sympathizers (10.6% were classified as "exterminatory" and another 10.2% felt "intense hatred" for Jews but fell short of openly calling for the extermination of Jews). Ultimately, one half of the workers (566 AFL, CIO, and unorganized workers interviewed in New York, Los Angeles, Detroit, and Philadelphia) were debilitated to one extent or another by anti-Semitic beliefs. In the view of the ISR, anti-Semitism represented, as they called it, the "spearhead of fascism" and they wanted to know if the vaunted CIO was ready to repel authoritarianism on the domestic front. The answer appeared to be an unqualified "no" but, upon further analysis, the issue was not so cut-and-dry.

Gurland and Massing found deep variations along ethnic, educational, gender, and religious lines. Their ideal typical anti-Semite was:

Male; 50 or older; Italian; Catholic (infrequent church attendance); possessing less than a high school education; a menial laborer—at the bottom of the job ladder, low occupational status; and had not been "Americanized" (i.e. had not been transformed by the American experience due his or his family's recent arrival in the States).

Their worker who was ideal typically resistant to anti-Semitism was quite different:

Female; in her 20s; descended from White, Protestant, Northern European stock; either actively Protestant or nonreligious; possessing either a high school degree or some college experience; and was fully "Americanized."

They also found that white-collar workers were "amazingly liberal" in contrast to their European counterparts. Blacks and Hispanics also emerged from the study as being relatively free from the worst kinds of anti-Semitism. The labor report postulated that the future of American labor was heading, decisively, away from authoritarian ideology and that important segments of the working class were resistant or allergic to anti-Semitism.

The research was scheduled to be published along with its sister project that culminated in The Authoritarian Personality but it was shelved instead (Adorno et al.1950; see Jay [1973] 1996:225). (The only publication that bore any relation to the labor study was the little foam bubble Labor's Enemy: Anti-Semitism (1945) by Charles Sherman of the JLC that does not warrant further analysis here. In Martin Jay's (1996) classic history of the Institute, Pollock is relied upon to make the following assertion: "the conclusions of the study were so damaging to American labor that the Institut, with its characteristic caution, was hesitant about broadcasting its findings" (p. 225). However, it was not really the case that the labor study would have been the wrong book at the wrong time in the broadest terms, but, rather, the report's findings dramatically challenged the assumptions of Horkheimer's dialectics project and even undercut some of the theoretical inconsistencies of the Berkley study. While mildly damaging to labor, at least in a superficial ways, it represented a far greater threat to the bourgeoning anti-dialectical pessimism of Horkheimer and his inner circle, which was quickly jettisoning their Marxist baggage. In short, Gurland and Massing delivered solid, critical, sociological interpretations of their data grounded directly in the logic of capital accumulation and life in capitalist society whereas Horkheimer and Adorno weaved erratically between abstract philosophy and orthodox group psychology......

Fast Capitalism


i wonder how many americans know their gov't paid the Frankfurt School to secretly study them and classify them.
based on a WARPED paranoid ideology that continually saw the goyim foaming at the mouth.

always looking for the next HITLER.

and finding one under every bed.

...

well....those studies were actually for something ELSE.
you figure out.
No.it is fair.They have really good reasons they choose so many Hitlers.But,seriously they have agendas, and so certain people have to become hitlers.
 
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Any leader who stands in the way, somehow could possibly become a hitler.
 

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No.it is fair.They have really good reasons they choose so many Hitlers.
ya...i know:

The new anti-Semitism, and the campaign to silence American critics of Israel

Jeff Warner and Dick Platkin on August 26, 2013 68

Despite many assaults, past and present, the First Amendment of the United States constitution broadly guarantees freedom of speech. But it is threatened by a slanderous campaign to discredit or silence American critics of the Israeli government. The Israel lobby, guided by the Israeli government, with the help of Israeli think tanks, is organizing this effort. In fact, Malcolm Hoenlein, the Executive Vice Chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, has publicly announced this campaign for the 2013-14 school year.

A key component of this attack on freedom of speech is the “new anti-Semitism,” the claim that criticism of Israel is based on hatred of Jews. But the real purpose of the new anti-Semitism is to discredit and silence Israel’s critics in the U.S. and elsewhere, even though comparable criticisms are common place in Israel, especially in such renown newspapers as Ha’aretz, the “New York Times of Israel. “

The new anti-Semitism, and the campaign to silence American critics of Israel
 
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ya...i know:

The new anti-Semitism, and the campaign to silence American critics of Israel

Jeff Warner and Dick Platkin on August 26, 2013 68

Despite many assaults, past and present, the First Amendment of the United States constitution broadly guarantees freedom of speech. But it is threatened by a slanderous campaign to discredit or silence American critics of the Israeli government. The Israel lobby, guided by the Israeli government, with the help of Israeli think tanks, is organizing this effort. In fact, Malcolm Hoenlein, the Executive Vice Chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, has publicly announced this campaign for the 2013-14 school year.

A key component of this attack on freedom of speech is the “new anti-Semitism,” the claim that criticism of Israel is based on hatred of Jews. But the real purpose of the new anti-Semitism is to discredit and silence Israel’s critics in the U.S. and elsewhere, even though comparable criticisms are common place in Israel, especially in such renown newspapers as Ha’aretz, the “New York Times of Israel. “

The new anti-Semitism, and the campaign to silence American critics of Israel
This doesn't surprise me,here in America it is already
 
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letti

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I't will just continue to get worse all of it.
 

zone

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This doesn't surprise me,here in America it is already
well....ya.
anyways....i guess this thread is totally derailed.

sooooo.....what about that CUFI corruption of Genesis 12:3?

Genesis 12
2And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

Genesis 18:18
Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him.

Galatians 3
The Law and the Promise
15To give a human example, brothers:f even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

19Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. 20Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

21Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

23Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slaveg nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
 
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letti

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well....ya.
anyways....i guess this thread is totally derailed.

sooooo.....what about that CUFI corruption of Genesis 12:3?

Genesis 12
2And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

Genesis 18:18
Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him.

Galatians 3
The Law and the Promise
15To give a human example, brothers:f even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

19Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. 20Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

21Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

23Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slaveg nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
Yes,zone we all can be heirs if we choose Jesus and his sacrifice.
 
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Heartbreaking, but is your heart filled with mercy toward their unbelief? If it is, then you would not speak evil of them but rather intercede with groanings.
As much mercy toward their unbelief as God has had for the last 2,000 years toward their unbelief.

God's non-favoritism is the standard, not your unBiblical favoritism.

More blame shifting and the slow drip, drip of guilting for agreeing with God, no less.

Their unbelief is no different than the unbelief of anyone else to whom the gospel is to be taken.

You are in disagreement with God regarding those who reject his Son.
 
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zone said:
Believing Jews prior to Pentecost, believing Jews during the tribulation, and believing
Jews during the Kingdom reign of Christ are not members of the body of Christ.
Surely even Dispensationalists can see this statement is false? :confused:
The only alternative is two different bodies of Christ.
 
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I'm not sure if you read all the posts on this thread (there's a lot of rubbish from the spammer, empty words from the couple of die-hard Dispensationalists), but I thought Zone did a good job of exposing the evils of Dispensationalism. It gets a bit tricky, as supporters of the doctrine tend to be as slippery as eels, but I think she didn't leave much room for them to slither.
That's our girl!
 
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Exactly. They don't care what the truth is, they want the scriptures to fit their beliefs. For whatever reason... Too hard to change, don't want to be unpopular, don't want to be called an "anti-semitist", etc.
It's held emotionally, based in human notions of God's love, and human notions of God choosing the side of the underdog.
 
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The promises were given before they were believed upon. Those (ethnic Jews) who believed, received the promises, and those who have not believed, still have the promises available to them, because the promises have not gone anywhere, but are placed on the shelf of mercy that can be reached by faith, marked, 'YEA & AMEN! The promises are even available into the second coming. Is that amazing or what? Still hope for those ethnic Jews after all, especially when they shall all see him and recognize him as the one they pierced, crucified and had his blood shed on that tree over 2,000 years ago.
The second coming is the curtain coming down on time.

There is no more opportunity to come to faith in the Christ and be saved.

Nowhere in the NT do you find any such thing as salvation from eternal death after Christ's return.
 
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It's held emotionally, based in human notions of God's love, and human notions of God choosing the side of the underdog.
But I thought we were the underdogs? :)
 
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How "leaving Israel and the Jews" qualify as Jewish evangelism? :confused:


How "leaving Israel and the Jews" qualify as Jewish evangelism? :confused:
You pulled BradC's statement out of context. He was replying to zone in this post:
there was a time, even recently when i would show you how wrong you are.
it's all in Daniel.
but i now believe that people who continue to teach this satanic doctrine after being shown the truth need to hear this:

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!
BradC was making a request to zone to "Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed." This has nothing to do with Jewish evangelism.

Nice try Praus. Want to try again?
Please don't show us or anyone else what you believe on this. Keep it to yourself and believe it as you wish. Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed. That is my request and I hope you can honor it so that others can grow in the grace and truth they have in Christ. Thanks for your cooperation and your noble restraint. You are very good with the finished work, so why not focus on that and edify others who are lowly in heart.
 
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You pulled BradC's statement out of context. He was replying to zone in this post:
BradC was making a request to zone to "Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed." This has nothing to do with Jewish evangelism.

Nice try Praus. Want to try again?
This still doesn't make any sense--"Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed" means that no one should have liberated Auschwitz as the Red Army did in January 1945.

I think that worse Holocaust denial.
 
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This still doesn't make any sense--"Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed" means that no one should have liberated Auschwitz as the Red Army did in January 1945.

I think that worse Holocaust denial.
BradC was simply making a request to zone. There is no reference to Jewish evangelism in those posts. The posts were not even in the Jewish Missions thread to begin with.

As a matter of fact, I accidentally posted it in the wrong thread and reposted it in my Jewish Missions thread. It's too late to delete it out of the other thread.
 
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BradC was simply making a request to zone. There is no reference to Jewish evangelism in those posts. The posts were not even in the Jewish Missions thread to begin with.
The quote: "Leave Israel and the Jews to the Lord and allow him to do as he sees fit and has purposed"

[video=youtube;2Ec-kZGKnQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ec-kZGKnQ8[/video]


I just don't know if Jewish people will listen to you if you tell them things like Hitler was sent by God to punish them--especially if they had relatives gassed in the Holocaust.