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Do you have any ideas that you would like to submit to Israel that might help them change their efforts and methods to keep Israel a Jewish state? Is your prayer that Israel be saved or destroyed? What's in your heart for this people and who is it you beseech on their behalf? Do you think that the Israelites who were in the wilderness under Moses were any better or different than what you have depicted? The plagues, the serpent bites, the earthquakes took out most of them that came out of Egypt, never making the promised land. Is this what you want God to do to Israel because they deserve it? Did Moses in Numbers 16 and what about Numbers 25, maybe you should read it and then understand what Paul was trying to say in 1 Cor 10.
Is that how we are to function as believers even among the Gentiles that have hearts that are just as deceitful and desperately wicked, who practice evil in every single nation without exception? Do we call fire down from heaven to devour them as God did to Sodom and Gomorrah? Is it your desire that God takes every last one of them out with a nuclear holocaust? Does Israel have no right to preserve their heritage as a nation and people from outside influences? Maybe you don't think they do but they sure as heck do and if Christians want to honor or support them in their efforts what is that to you. You don't have to if you don't want to, but don't demonize those who do, especially if they are your brothers and sisters in Christ..
Is that how we are to function as believers even among the Gentiles that have hearts that are just as deceitful and desperately wicked, who practice evil in every single nation without exception? Do we call fire down from heaven to devour them as God did to Sodom and Gomorrah? Is it your desire that God takes every last one of them out with a nuclear holocaust? Does Israel have no right to preserve their heritage as a nation and people from outside influences? Maybe you don't think they do but they sure as heck do and if Christians want to honor or support them in their efforts what is that to you. You don't have to if you don't want to, but don't demonize those who do, especially if they are your brothers and sisters in Christ..
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What saith the Lord?
Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Genesis 13:14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
Genesis 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
Genesis 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.
Genesis 13:17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.
Genesis 13:18 Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the LORD.
Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Genesis 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
Genesis 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
Genesis 15:21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
God promised to bless Abraham and his nation and the entire world through his Seed. Jesus Christ is Abraham's Son and inherits these blessings and bestows them upon those who believe.
The national, physical aspects of Abraham's covenant will yet be fulfilled to the nation Israel. (Jeremiah 30) This is all future.
Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Genesis 13:14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
Genesis 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
Genesis 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.
Genesis 13:17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.
Genesis 13:18 Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the LORD.
Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Genesis 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
Genesis 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
Genesis 15:21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
God promised to bless Abraham and his nation and the entire world through his Seed. Jesus Christ is Abraham's Son and inherits these blessings and bestows them upon those who believe.
The national, physical aspects of Abraham's covenant will yet be fulfilled to the nation Israel. (Jeremiah 30) This is all future.
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"The United States has provided Israel with $233.7 billion in aid (after adjusting for inflation) since the state was formed in 1948 through the end of last year, research by TheMarker has found."
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"The United States has provided Israel with $233.7 billion in aid (after adjusting for inflation) since the state was formed in 1948 through the end of last year, research by TheMarker has found."
Support your local Jew!
just imagine if these were germans (or some others) calling for an ayran only state.
or hispanics calling for texas to be mexican only.
any combination.
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"An unmistakable logo greets visitors to the Stormfront Home Page, the gateway to Don Black's online world of bigotry: a cross ringed by the words "White Pride World Wide." Under this logo, Black describes his site:
Stormfront is a resource for those courageous men and women fighting to preserve their White Western culture, ideals and freedom of speech and association * a forum for planning strategies and forming political and social groups to ensure victory.7
Though Black claims to be a "White Nationalist," not a hatemonger, his idea of "White Pride" involves demeaning, demonizing and menacing Jews and non-whites, and his concept of "victory" includes the creation of ethnically cleansed political enclaves.
Since its creation, Stormfront has served as a veritable supermarket of online hate, stocking its shelves with many forms of anti-Semitism and racism...."
Poisoning the Web - Don Black: White Pride World Wide
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now go watch the video again.
course the definition of the new antisemitism is criticism of Israel (comparing it to nazi germany).
so shut up and take it.
and make sure your immigration policies are all-inclusive (which i happen to agree with btw).
and while you're at it, get that Christmas tree off your city square.
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Acts 10:15
But the voice spoke again: "Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean."
or hispanics calling for texas to be mexican only.
any combination.
...
"An unmistakable logo greets visitors to the Stormfront Home Page, the gateway to Don Black's online world of bigotry: a cross ringed by the words "White Pride World Wide." Under this logo, Black describes his site:
Stormfront is a resource for those courageous men and women fighting to preserve their White Western culture, ideals and freedom of speech and association * a forum for planning strategies and forming political and social groups to ensure victory.7
Though Black claims to be a "White Nationalist," not a hatemonger, his idea of "White Pride" involves demeaning, demonizing and menacing Jews and non-whites, and his concept of "victory" includes the creation of ethnically cleansed political enclaves.
Since its creation, Stormfront has served as a veritable supermarket of online hate, stocking its shelves with many forms of anti-Semitism and racism...."
Poisoning the Web - Don Black: White Pride World Wide
...
now go watch the video again.
course the definition of the new antisemitism is criticism of Israel (comparing it to nazi germany).
so shut up and take it.
and make sure your immigration policies are all-inclusive (which i happen to agree with btw).
and while you're at it, get that Christmas tree off your city square.
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Acts 10:15
But the voice spoke again: "Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean."
Everyone alive will see his second coming.
But it will alter nothing for them eternally.
Don't be pickin' on my Unclefester. . .
There is no record of anyone rejecting Christ at the second coming because there is no record of salvation being available at the second coming.
The second coming is the coming down of the curtain of time.
All that remains is judgment.
Just as man is destined to die once and then the judgment,
so Christ comes once to die (save) and once to judge (Heb 9:27), and not in between.
There is no salvation from unbelief as his second coming, only judgment.
All salvation at the second coming is completion of the salvation of those who are waiting for him in faith.
But it will alter nothing for them eternally.
Don't be pickin' on my Unclefester. . .
There is no record of anyone rejecting Christ at the second coming because there is no record of salvation being available at the second coming.
The second coming is the coming down of the curtain of time.
All that remains is judgment.
Just as man is destined to die once and then the judgment,
so Christ comes once to die (save) and once to judge (Heb 9:27), and not in between.
There is no salvation from unbelief as his second coming, only judgment.
All salvation at the second coming is completion of the salvation of those who are waiting for him in faith.
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There is no rapture of the Church before the second coming of Christ.
And just as man is destined once to die and then judgment, so Christ comes once to die (save) and once to judge Heb 9:27-28), and not in between.
When the church is completed, time will end, for the church is the fulfillment of the ages.
There is no age after the Church.
Likewise, the Church is the fullness of Christ (Eph 1:23), there are no more to be added in Christ apart from the Church.
The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the end of time, when all elect Gentiles have been saved.
2) THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES involves the relationship of the Gentiles to the nation Israel. As it says in Luke 21:24--"Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Scofield defines this period of time as follows: "The Times of the Gentiles is that long period beginning with the Babylonian captivity of Judah, under Nebuchadnezzar, and to be brought to an end by the destruction of Gentile world-power by the ‘stone cut out without hands’ (Dan. 2:34,35,44), i.e. the coming of the Lord in glory (Rev. 19:11,21), until which time Jerusalem is politically subject to Gentile rule (Luke 21:24)."[/quote]
No, "the stone cut out with human hands" was cut out during the time of "those kings" (Da 2:44), the past kingdoms of Babylonia, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
According to Dan 2, the "kingdom that will never be destroyed. . .it will itself endure forever" (Da 2:44) was set up during the last Roman empire at the first coming of Christ.
Since "it will never be destroyed and will endure forever," there is no other kingdom in the future.
Scofield has let his personal fancy outrun the Scriptures.
And just as man is destined once to die and then judgment, so Christ comes once to die (save) and once to judge Heb 9:27-28), and not in between.
When the church is completed, time will end, for the church is the fulfillment of the ages.
There is no age after the Church.
Likewise, the Church is the fullness of Christ (Eph 1:23), there are no more to be added in Christ apart from the Church.
The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the end of time, when all elect Gentiles have been saved.
2) THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES involves the relationship of the Gentiles to the nation Israel. As it says in Luke 21:24--"Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Scofield defines this period of time as follows: "The Times of the Gentiles is that long period beginning with the Babylonian captivity of Judah, under Nebuchadnezzar, and to be brought to an end by the destruction of Gentile world-power by the ‘stone cut out without hands’ (Dan. 2:34,35,44), i.e. the coming of the Lord in glory (Rev. 19:11,21), until which time Jerusalem is politically subject to Gentile rule (Luke 21:24)."[/quote]
No, "the stone cut out with human hands" was cut out during the time of "those kings" (Da 2:44), the past kingdoms of Babylonia, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
According to Dan 2, the "kingdom that will never be destroyed. . .it will itself endure forever" (Da 2:44) was set up during the last Roman empire at the first coming of Christ.
Since "it will never be destroyed and will endure forever," there is no other kingdom in the future.
Scofield has let his personal fancy outrun the Scriptures.
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There you go again. . .not using the objective standard of the word of God to measure your subjective "light."
Read it again. . .the Church doesn't "dwell" within the New Jerusalem, the Church is the New Jerusalem,
the holy city, the Bride of the Lamb, which includes believing Israel (Heb 12:22; Rev 21:9-14).
God has only one people, one fold, one olive tree, one vine, one body of Christ.
Your uncertain interpretation of unfulfilled prophetic riddles (Rev 20:4-6) disagrees with
the certain interpretation of fulfilled prophetic riddles in Da 2,
where the Messianic (Da 9:25-26) kingdom set up during the past Roman empire
at the first coming of Christ "endures forever" and is "never destroyed" (Da 2:44, 7:14).
That does not allow for any other kingdom in the future.
Good analogy for those whose subjective "light" is not objectively measured against the NT word of God.
Read it again. . .the Church doesn't "dwell" within the New Jerusalem, the Church is the New Jerusalem,
the holy city, the Bride of the Lamb, which includes believing Israel (Heb 12:22; Rev 21:9-14).
God has only one people, one fold, one olive tree, one vine, one body of Christ.
Your uncertain interpretation of unfulfilled prophetic riddles (Rev 20:4-6) disagrees with
the certain interpretation of fulfilled prophetic riddles in Da 2,
where the Messianic (Da 9:25-26) kingdom set up during the past Roman empire
at the first coming of Christ "endures forever" and is "never destroyed" (Da 2:44, 7:14).
That does not allow for any other kingdom in the future.
Good analogy for those whose subjective "light" is not objectively measured against the NT word of God.
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