Temple Mount Awakening: Sukkot 5769/2008

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Cup-of-Ruin

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ASSIYAH said:
"I know the blasphemy that say they are 'Jews" (Judeans) but are not Judeans, but are the Synagogue of Satan" Rev. 2:9

Maybe this is You.
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No, again, your missing the point, Judah including the tribe of Benjamin, were re-united with the 10 tribes of Israel, to become once again the twelve tribes, and they are addressed as Christian, the children of Israel were to have a new religion and be saved by God (Jeremiah 31:7,31-37). Israel was to carry the Gospel to the world (Isaiah 49:3-6). Israel was to be called by a new name (Isaiah 62:1-2). Israel was to have a new home other than Canaan land (2 Samuel 7:10). Israel's land was to be unwalled, without bars or gates or walls (Ezekiel 38:11) Israel's land is described as a 'camp of saints' (Rev. 20:7-9) Only a Christian is a saint.

A Jew is a Jew by conversion, anybody can become a 'Jew', either convert, or if your mother is a Jew, and that is matriachal, Israel was patriachal, Jews have the Babylonian/Canaanite religion, that's the wrong religion. True Israel was saved as Christians.
 
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No, again, your missing the point, Judah including the tribe of Benjamin, were re-united with the 10 tribes of Israel, to become once again the twelve tribes, and they are addressed as Christian, the children of Israel were to have a new religion and be saved by God (Jeremiah 31:7,31-37). Israel was to carry the Gospel to the world (Isaiah 49:3-6). Israel was to be called by a new name (Isaiah 62:1-2). Israel was to have a new home other than Canaan land (2 Samuel 7:10). Israel's land was to be unwalled, without bars or gates or walls (Ezekiel 38:11) Israel's land is described as a 'camp of saints' (Rev. 20:7-9) Only a Christian is a saint.

A Jew is a Jew by conversion, anybody can become a 'Jew', either convert, or if your mother is a Jew, and that is matriachal, Israel was patriachal, Jews have the Babylonian/Canaanite religion, that's the wrong religion. True Israel was saved as Christians.
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I wash hands of you. I will not debate you on this, it is a waste of time. I will let Messiah straighten you out in His own time. Soon, we will all see the truth.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin said:
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A Jew is a Jew by conversion, anybody can become a 'Jew', either convert, or if your mother is a Jew, and that is matriachal, Israel was patriachal, Jews have the Babylonian/Canaanite religion, that's the wrong religion. True Israel was saved as Christians.
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actually you cannot...only if your father was/is Jewish.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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actually you cannot...only if your father was/is Jewish.
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Well clearly you have no idea what your talking about, perhaps you should inquire about this with local Rabbi.

Othodox Judaism states that, to be a Jew, one must be either a proselyte or a child of a Jewish mother. This ruling is based on the fact tha intercourse between Jews and non-Jews is forbidden, and any offspring resulting from such an act is considered to have no paternity. This is not part of the Bible, the Bible is paternal, not maternal, but Judaism is maternal and this is not derived from the Bible but is derived from the Oral Law (Mishnah tractate Kiddushin 3:12).
 
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well a few months ago there was apparently a discrepancy in Israel and a decision was made that any person laying a claim for automatic citizenship, their father had to be Jewish. Those who only their mother was Jewish are excluded.
I think the report was on either CNN or Sky News Or BBC (your favorites)
 
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ASSIYAH said:
Isaiah 11
12 He will hoist a banner for the Goyim, assemble the dispersed of Isra'el, and gather the scattered of Y'hudah from the four corners of the earth.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.



Zechariah 8
23 ADONAI-Tzva'ot says, 'When that time comes, ten men will take hold - speaking all the languages of the nations - will grab hold of the cloak of a Jew and say, "We want to go with you, because we have heard that God is with you."'"
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Blessings be on you my Jewish friend.
 
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A Jew is not one outwardly but inwardly....

But in the final days, they shall see Jesus and repent!


The religion of the Chosen People changed significantly since we read about it 3000 years ago in the Bible. Even the teachings of Judaism of Jesus days was hyper legalistic, which Jesus preached strongly against, and after the destruction of the temple in 70ad: that the Jewish leaders were so shocked that this would happen, they further changed many of the laws and rituals.

This is known as Orthodox religion today.....
 
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Assiyah, I think you are onto something.

Jesus said He is the vine.

We are the branches.

Cup, you do not graft one branch onto another branch.
 
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Graybeard said:
well a few months ago there was apparently a discrepancy in Israel and a decision was made that any person laying a claim for automatic citizenship, their father had to be Jewish. Those who only their mother was Jewish are excluded.
I think the report was on either CNN or Sky News Or BBC (your favorites)
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No, you have it a little wrong. Under the 'law of return' for modern day state Israel it has been extended from the Othodox Judaism which states that a Jew is determined by the matriachal line, to include the child where the father is a Jew and not the mother, but in official documents the child is listed as 'non-jew' as traditional Judaism only recognize the maternal line. Basically what 'Graybeard' just said is a lie.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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greatkraw said:
Assiyah, I think you are onto something.

Jesus said He is the vine.

We are the branches.

Cup, you do not graft one branch onto another branch.
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Isn't the stock and the scion of the same genus in horticultural grafting?

Judah and Benjamin are the rootstock, the 10 tribes of Israel were divorced 'cut-off', God issued the 10 tribes of Israel a bill of divorce, however the remnant of Judah still remained and returned after Assyrian captivity, the 10 tribes did not return, they were scattered, later to be reunited, 'grafted' back into Judah, to be the 12 tribes once again. Then the Gospel goes to the rest of the world, and this has already happened.
 
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CIRBaptist said:
A Jew is not one outwardly but inwardly....

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A true Judean at the time Paul was writing, would have had a circumcised heart, Hebrews 8:8-12, that would make true Judeans - Christian.
 
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We tend to overlook that Jesus preached to Israel, and He said that He had other sheep to gather, not of that flock. God has not turned away from Israel, but rather has blessed all nations through Abraham.

There is a time of restoration for Israel, a time when He will be King of all. This time is said to last for a thousand years, and then comes the end, and judgment.

If we have stood in His presence, and witnessed His glory with our own spiritual eyes, then we will not be arrogant towards anyone, no matter where they are from, whether Jew or gentile, no matter what they have done. In His presence, seeing His perfection, and knowing our sin, we can only be humble.

History is replete with those who have decided that Israel has been cast aside by God, but His promises are forever, and are efficacious without our efforts. Otherwise our salvation is not real. If God has turned away from Israel, then His promise to us who are gentiles is of no count.

By the grace of God, through His Son, may we all know the humility which sees each and every person as one whom Jesus sacrificed His life for, in obedience to His Father's commandment.

My earnest prayer is that we all become one in Him, bound together in the love of God through His Spirit.
 
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This is the point, The Temple is coming and so is The Messiah.

Mark 13:

27 He will send out his angels and gather together his chosen people from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

28 "Now let the fig tree (Israel) teach you its lesson: when its branches begin to sprout and leaves appear, you know that summer is approaching.
29 In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you are to know that the time is near, right at the door.
30 Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before all these things happen.
31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away.
 
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The Greek is Ioudaious einai eautous kai ouk eisin. (Identical in both textus recepticus and Nestle) The word "Jew" or "Judean" is only present once, so you cannot make that distinction. If anything, it would be Judean not Jew and if so, then all the times that would translate Jew, would be Judean.
 
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ASSIYAH said:
This is the point, The Temple is coming and so is The Messiah.

Mark 13:

27 He will send out his angels and gather together his chosen people from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

28 "Now let the fig tree (Israel) teach you its lesson: when its branches begin to sprout and leaves appear, you know that summer is approaching.
29 In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you are to know that the time is near, right at the door.
30 Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before all these things happen.
31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away.
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very good, thanks
 
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While it is important that the temple in Jerusalem will be built soon, especially to us who eagerly await His return, we should remember that His house, His holy temple is being built even now, made without hands, in our hearts. And while Jesus will dwell and rule from the earthly temple for a thousand years, He rules in the spiritual temple now and forever. And when the heavens and the earth flee away and are burned in fire, the temple where Jesus dwells now, and has for the last two thousand years, will still be here.

And so, I look for His return that I might put off this body of sin, and put on flesh in the image of His glory. And whatever shows me that this is closer that yesterday, brings me hope anew, because He is the only thing.

In His peace,
 
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To all those who give there blessings upon the fakes in Israel, you have been warned by the word of God. They are preparing to set up their kingdom for their father and fake messiah, the first one to come.i.e.SATAN



6And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
 
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miktre said:
To all those who give there blessings upon the fakes in Israel, you have been warned by the word of God. They are preparing to set up their kingdom for their father and fake messiah, the first one to come.i.e.SATAN



6And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
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To all those who in their ignorance, curse Israel the chosen people of The Living God. In the Name of Yeshua the promised Messiah, Who gave His Life to redeem us from our sins and from death; and by Whom we have received everlasting life through our faith in Him, I strongly rebuke you! It is you, who follow after the teachings of your father Satan! For it has been the desires of the adversary from the beginning to do away with Israel. You are out of line, neither having eyes to see nor ears to hear; you are the blind leading the blind. I hope for your sake, Messiah will show you mercy. For it has been written, "Those who curse Israel will be cursed and whoever blesses Israel will be blessed." I pray that you will humble your hearts, and repent of your ignorance that it may be well with you and that the Living God of Israel may bless you in all that you do.
 
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ASSIYAH said:
To all those who in their ignorance, curse Israel the chosen people of The Living God. In the Name of Yeshua the promised Messiah, Who gave His Life to redeem us from our sins and from death; and by Whom we have received everlasting life through our faith in Him, I strongly rebuke you! It is you, who follow after the teachings of your father Satan! For it has been the desires of the adversary from the beginning to do away with Israel. You are out of line, neither having eyes to see nor ears to hear; you are the blind leading the blind. I hope for your sake, Messiah will show you mercy. For it has been written, "Those who curse Israel will be cursed and whoever blesses Israel will be blessed." I pray that you will humble your hearts, and repent of your ignorance that it may be well with you and that the Living God of Israel may bless you in all that you do.
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Israel is not a geographical location in Palestine set up illegally by the House of Rothschild under the Balfour Declaration. Israel are a people, you cannot just get a bunch of Judaism converts put under the Babylonain Hexagram and call them the children of Israel, that's blasphemy, who do you think your fooling? You cannot even get the right location the capital of Israel was Samaria, the capital of Judea is Jerusalem, the capital of the false criminal state of "Israel" is Tel Aviv!!! You got it all wrong. It's not your land stop pretending to be the chosen people of God, when you are not, you lie, and you will be found out and all evil will be brought to light...
 
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ASSIYAH said:
To all those who in their ignorance, curse Israel the chosen people of The Living God. In the Name of Yeshua the promised Messiah, Who gave His Life to redeem us from our sins and from death; and by Whom we have received everlasting life through our faith in Him, I strongly rebuke you! It is you, who follow after the teachings of your father Satan! For it has been the desires of the adversary from the beginning to do away with Israel. You are out of line, neither having eyes to see nor ears to hear; you are the blind leading the blind. I hope for your sake, Messiah will show you mercy. For it has been written, "Those who curse Israel will be cursed and whoever blesses Israel will be blessed." I pray that you will humble your hearts, and repent of your ignorance that it may be well with you and that the Living God of Israel may bless you in all that you do.
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It's not Israel, they are fakes. Same as a fake messiah is coming. I didn't read anywhere it said that "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" expect people that live in Palestine or any man for that reason.

7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
 
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