Thats Not My Calling: The Great Commission.A Christian Call To Arms
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MsSuzanna if you are indeed a minister then you more so than anyone must show the love and heart of God, the fruits of the spirit are peace patience kindness understanding love I see anger impatience a great lack of understanding of others and a fiery temper from you.
You are in the role of leadership and thus you more so than anyone will held accountable for your words how you speak and treat others and if you throw fiery darts and point fingers as you are doing in this thread. I hope this is not how you normally conduct things because if so you are in no place to be a minister.
There is a huge difference between witnessing and evangelizing, we all witness simply by the words we speak by the way we react to others to evangelize to go out and spread the word is different and while you may seem to think that one should be like a raging fire you would be in the wrong.
There are children of fire and children of water then there are some like me who are both, when ministering to the lost if one is passionate but yelling and speaking in a loud and uncivilized manner then what good will they do? the fire people need to see is not a bold and powerful nature and wording the fire they need is the kind that shows the deep love and passion for God and trust me this fire and the fire I spoke of bold nature and wording are no where near the same.
You see some people are more prone to come to christ from a child of water one who still calm and serene others will be affected by that fire they see burning in a persons heart the clear passion and love for God but if they are only getting in the heat of our so called fire and all they see and hear is us shouting and speaking in a bold manner hoping our boldness will make them come to christ they will oly run away from faith not be brought to it.
The interesting thing about fire is it can both destroy and bring life, a fire can make a field be turned to ash but the grass and flowers will grow back more beautiful and healthier than before, fire can be used for good and bad the fire of God heals and gives life it is not a fire to show boldness and to be a blazing out of control flame arising from the believer and engulfing everything around us because that kind of fire will only burn and keep people at bay.
You are in the role of leadership and thus you more so than anyone will held accountable for your words how you speak and treat others and if you throw fiery darts and point fingers as you are doing in this thread. I hope this is not how you normally conduct things because if so you are in no place to be a minister.
There is a huge difference between witnessing and evangelizing, we all witness simply by the words we speak by the way we react to others to evangelize to go out and spread the word is different and while you may seem to think that one should be like a raging fire you would be in the wrong.
There are children of fire and children of water then there are some like me who are both, when ministering to the lost if one is passionate but yelling and speaking in a loud and uncivilized manner then what good will they do? the fire people need to see is not a bold and powerful nature and wording the fire they need is the kind that shows the deep love and passion for God and trust me this fire and the fire I spoke of bold nature and wording are no where near the same.
You see some people are more prone to come to christ from a child of water one who still calm and serene others will be affected by that fire they see burning in a persons heart the clear passion and love for God but if they are only getting in the heat of our so called fire and all they see and hear is us shouting and speaking in a bold manner hoping our boldness will make them come to christ they will oly run away from faith not be brought to it.
The interesting thing about fire is it can both destroy and bring life, a fire can make a field be turned to ash but the grass and flowers will grow back more beautiful and healthier than before, fire can be used for good and bad the fire of God heals and gives life it is not a fire to show boldness and to be a blazing out of control flame arising from the believer and engulfing everything around us because that kind of fire will only burn and keep people at bay.
There's a word for that. Here, let's play word game. I give you the definition and you see if you can give me the word. Ready, set, go... (Final Jeopardy tune playing in thebackground)
noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Also I greatly disagree with this minister, the church is not a battleship this is not the military. And this part right here-It was not designed or established for any other purpose than offensive movement against the adversary's strongholds. It was established by God to spread the Gospel.
I would have to disagree the church was made to help spread the gospel but the above quote in saying it was not designed for any other purpose than offensive movement against the adversaries strongholds is incorrect the church was form for more than going against the enemy it was formed for communion for the building of relationships bonds and faith of fellow believers it is the house of the Lord in which one must feel comfortable and like they are cared about it is a place where many teach and learn where lives are saved and where broken spirits are healed it is not a battleship and is not the base of operations of soldiers going to war this is not call of duty it's not the navy seals this is the house of God and If I were to imagine being in his house in his kingdom I sure wouldn't imagine a battleship
I would have to disagree the church was made to help spread the gospel but the above quote in saying it was not designed for any other purpose than offensive movement against the adversaries strongholds is incorrect the church was form for more than going against the enemy it was formed for communion for the building of relationships bonds and faith of fellow believers it is the house of the Lord in which one must feel comfortable and like they are cared about it is a place where many teach and learn where lives are saved and where broken spirits are healed it is not a battleship and is not the base of operations of soldiers going to war this is not call of duty it's not the navy seals this is the house of God and If I were to imagine being in his house in his kingdom I sure wouldn't imagine a battleship
K
Well I was in ministry. And I am now speaking ONLY of the people and churches I ministered in, which in over 20yrs of ministry was hundreds of churches. It was very disheartening and disappointing to see the apathy of a lot of Christians. Many would put two dollars in the love offering and go spend 40 at the local diner. We traveled from church to church,did outdoor concerts,sang anywhere we were invited. Sang for the Salvation Army in a park in the middle of Toronto. And when people sat back in the seat with an uncaring attitude it was very frustrating.
I remember a Nazarene church we sang at where four older ladies who had come to church together all accepted the Lord that morning. We even had family accept the Lord in some of the concerts. When you stood in front of a congregation you could tell if they were serious about seeing people come to Christ or they were coming to put their time in in church. To me,the worse thing that ever happened to the church is when it moved up town. When they moved away from the little missions on the main street of town. They moved up town and they have a big electric sign out front,thats their ministry to the lost you know. Some quip that they got online. They have air conditioning and a big screen tv to watch the Super Bowl,because thats a ministry too you know! They don't sing out of the hymn books but on the wall, no one wants to hear about being a "worm". Yes, they moved up town and the only converts these days are disgruntled church members from the church down the road. This is my observation from travelling in churches of all denominations. Songs always have a way of saying best for me...
It's crowded in worship today
As she slips in trying to fade into the faces
The girls teasing laughter is carrying farther than they know
Farther than they know
But if we are the body
Why aren't His arms reaching?
Why aren't His hands healing?
Why aren't His words teaching?
And if we are the body
Why aren't His feet going?
Why is His love not showing them there is a way?
There is a way, there is a way
A traveler is far away from home
He sheds his coat and quietly sinks into the back row
The weight of their judgmental glances
Tells him that his chances are better out on the road
But if we are the body
Why aren't His arms reaching?
Why aren't His hands healing?
Why aren't His words teaching?
And if we are the body
Why aren't His feet going?
Why is His love not showing them there is a way?
Jesus paid much too high a price
For us to pick and choose who should come
And we are the body of Christ
But if we are the body
Why aren't His arms reaching?
Why aren't His hands healing?
Why aren't His words teaching?
And if we are the body
Why aren't His feet going?
Why is His love not showing them there is a way?
Jesus is the way
Jesus is the way
we are His hands
We are His feet
We are His body
Jesus is the way
SONGWRITERS
JOHN MARK HALL
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Well, as long as Ive been reading and writing ,which has been quite some time, I was taught that you use quotation marks to quote a person and you also leave a footnote of the reference from one from which one obtained the information. I did both of those things in my OP.
You are confused for reasons other than my proper writing skills
You are confused for reasons other than my proper writing skills
