The 144,000 named in Revelation
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Go to the parable of the wedding supper and how the original guests (JEWS) that were bidden refused to go, were busy, etc. And then notice how those that were not originally bidden are brought into the wedding supper (GENTILES) and they are called GUESTS at the wedding SUPPER..........Matthew 22:1-14 <--one example ---->I have a question....how is it possible for one to be the bride and guests at the same time for the wedding feast/supper?
I also want to say that having love for something like one would love a wife does not equate to the "something loved" as actually being a wife........ponder that for a moment
I also want to say that having love for something like one would love a wife does not equate to the "something loved" as actually being a wife........ponder that for a moment
Oh I don't know....maybe because Jesus went to the Jews first and they rejected him and he turned Paul unto the Gentiles......but to be fully HONEST.......I fully expect you to argue the validity of that point, argue the validity of the point that it makes sense based upon history, fully expect you to argue that there can be more than 2 groups invited to the wedding supper and fully expect you to reject anything I say.........so...seeing how you always ask me like you want to know and then argue and finally make some flippant generic post about my error and how your view is the only one that can possibly be correct....
Why do you even ask me?....you always argue that which I have hammered out based upon the verbiage, words, verb tense, definitions, historicity and over 3 decades of worthless study......???
Why do you even ask me?....you always argue that which I have hammered out based upon the verbiage, words, verb tense, definitions, historicity and over 3 decades of worthless study......???
Thanks for the reply
Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV) And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of tee14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
It would seem the first two were called to come but saw no interest in the unseen things. (as if they were spiritual things) Other came without representation of the nation as gentiles When the King representing our father in heaven came in he saw a man not clothed which the righteousness of Christ He cast him out. The ones that remained when the wedding supper had started to consummate the wedding the veil be lifted up all changed in the twinkling of the eye no longer male nor female Jew nor gentile but a new creation receiving her goal . What we are is not what we will be on the last day
Something loved" as actually being a wife. . . great idea...Most wife's like mine need more of.
Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV) And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of tee14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
It would seem the first two were called to come but saw no interest in the unseen things. (as if they were spiritual things) Other came without representation of the nation as gentiles When the King representing our father in heaven came in he saw a man not clothed which the righteousness of Christ He cast him out. The ones that remained when the wedding supper had started to consummate the wedding the veil be lifted up all changed in the twinkling of the eye no longer male nor female Jew nor gentile but a new creation receiving her goal . What we are is not what we will be on the last day
Something loved" as actually being a wife. . . great idea...Most wife's like mine need more of.
If the bible left out their geneology as you did,your view may have traction.
We know they are Born jews of the 12 tribes.
No need to ascribe gentile or grafted.
It is vividly plain.
Not following you.
Are you affirming the 144k as jews?
We know they are Born jews of the 12 tribes.
No need to ascribe gentile or grafted.
It is vividly plain.
Very true! (and I would wonder how they "slaughtered" exactly 12,000 from each of the precise tribes listed, if the OP were true. 
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Consider again: the "firstfruit" that was associated with the "wheat harvest" involved "TWO LOAVES" and "baken with leaven" (and said to be "unto the Lord" Lev23:17 just like Rev14:4 says), but what is stated of "the Church which is His body" (to, for, and about "the Church which is His body," [SINGULAR]) is specifically that "ye are UNleavened" [factually, positionally, legally] (1Cor5:7--and consider what Ephesians 2 states regarding same; as well as the "G4862 - 'WITH'/ 'united with' / 'identified with' - syn" word that is consistently used with regard to same). "The Church which is His body" is not the wheat harvest.
)Consider again: the "firstfruit" that was associated with the "wheat harvest" involved "TWO LOAVES" and "baken with leaven" (and said to be "unto the Lord" Lev23:17 just like Rev14:4 says), but what is stated of "the Church which is His body" (to, for, and about "the Church which is His body," [SINGULAR]) is specifically that "ye are UNleavened" [factually, positionally, legally] (1Cor5:7--and consider what Ephesians 2 states regarding same; as well as the "G4862 - 'WITH'/ 'united with' / 'identified with' - syn" word that is consistently used with regard to same). "The Church which is His body" is not the wheat harvest.
Are you affirming the 144k as jews?
Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
The "bidden" in the above and the parable in general is spoken against the leaders and priests of 1st century Israel - note in the above "a certain king" - so the invited would be in the "noble" class.
This parable has nothing to do with the Gentiles, Jesus is speaking of the "commoners" of Israel in Matt 22:10 below, the Joe Biddens
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
The "bidden" in the above and the parable in general is spoken against the leaders and priests of 1st century Israel - note in the above "a certain king" - so the invited would be in the "noble" class.
This parable has nothing to do with the Gentiles, Jesus is speaking of the "commoners" of Israel in Matt 22:10 below, the Joe Biddens
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
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