The Behavior of The Saved and Condemned

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CharliRenee

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#81
i know atheists that know the word of God more than you.

And God seeks praise and worship in Spirit and truth.
I don't doubt that atheist know the scriptures better than me. I, lol, in NO WAY claim to be an authority on His truth. I do respect the Bereans choice with regards to the scriptures. I am a berean wanna be, lol. It, the inspired words of His, is a gift He has given, one that I want to fully receive. I am so aware that I am quite limited though, I know so little; I am just a humble gal who needs and wants Him, desperately. I love exploring His word, but we, none of us, should lean on our understanding.
Thankfully, He and His truth dwells in me. I am so grateful for Him and am humbled by His expressions of Love and Mercy.
 

1ofthem

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#82
There are 24 Hours
in every day day.

How much of that time
every day of your life
do you give to God?

If God gave you exactly
the same amount of time
to you that you gave to him
would that be alright with you?

If you say NO
Then you are giving to God less
than He deserves from you.

Ask yourself
what exactly does God
deserve from you?

Do you give more
of your time to anything else
other than you give to God?

If you say YES
Is that the way to love God?
What exactly does God deserve from you?

DOES HE NOT DESERVE YOUR LOVE?

Do you give GOD your left overs?
Ask yourself?

WHAT DOES GOD DESERVE FROM ME?

Make a list of all the things you do everyday
then make a list of what you do
that blesses God everyday.

Then make a list
of what God does to bless you
every day.

COMPARE THEM

Then tell me from your heart
that you put God first over your life and family.
First off, there is no way that I could ever do enough to repay God for what all he as done for me. To be honest, I fail God a lot and don't give him as much of my time as I should. Does that mean I should hate my family and just leave them all? I don't think so.

I don't think God called any of us to hate others or just completely abandon our families. He wants us to put him first, though. We don't have to hate our families, divorce spouses, abandon our children and make them orphans to follow God with our whole heart, mind and soul. This can be done with making our families a part of it. Spending time praying, discussing the Word of God, and sharing testimonies with our families as well as others.

There are scriptures that teach us how to love our families and care for them, but you have already stated that you don't want to even consider those scriptures so I guess, I'm done here. There is not much more I can really say about it without using all of the Word of God because without taking all the scriptures together I would just be giving you an opinion of a few verses without putting it all into context.
 

1ofthem

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#83
First off, there is no way that I could ever do enough to repay God for what all he as done for me. To be honest, I fail God a lot and don't give him as much of my time as I should. Does that mean I should hate my family and just leave them all? I don't think so.

I don't think God called any of us to hate others or just completely abandon our families. He wants us to put him first, though. We don't have to hate our families, divorce spouses, abandon our children and make them orphans to follow God with our whole heart, mind and soul. This can be done with making our families a part of it. Spending time praying, discussing the Word of God, and sharing testimonies with our families as well as others.

There are scriptures that teach us how to love our families and care for them, but you have already stated that you don't want to even consider those scriptures so I guess, I'm done here. There is not much more I can really say about it without using all of the Word of God because without taking all the scriptures together I would just be giving you an opinion of a few verses without putting it all into context.
Just a thought to add to this post....

I can give you a personal example....My dad got saved when I was a kid. He put God first, but that didn't mean that he hated his family and just abandoned them. No, quite the contrary, he made us a part of it. I spent much time with him reading the Word of God, discussing it, listening to testimonies, praying and praising the Lord together.

So in your honest opinion, was that wrong of him? Should he have just hated us and abandoned us?

I don't know what your answer will be on this matter, but to me he did what was right by teaching us and showing us how to love the Lord and that can be done together as a family.
 

unctus

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#84
Just a thought to add to this post....

I can give you a personal example....My dad got saved when I was a kid. He put God first, but that didn't mean that he hated his family and just abandoned them. No, quite the contrary, he made us a part of it. I spent much time with him reading the Word of God, discussing it, listening to testimonies, praying and praising the Lord together.

So in your honest opinion, was that wrong of him? Should he have just hated us and abandoned us?

I don't know what your answer will be on this matter, but to me he did what was right by teaching us and showing us how to love the Lord and that can be done together as a family.
I will not give you an opinion because I do not have one.
I have already given you the commandment of Jesus the Christ.

Your argument or questions or concerns for it
is with Him not me.
 

unctus

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#85
First off, there is no way that I could ever do enough to repay God for what all he as done for me. To be honest, I fail God a lot and don't give him as much of my time as I should. Does that mean I should hate my family and just leave them all? I don't think so.

I don't think God called any of us to hate others or just completely abandon our families. He wants us to put him first, though. We don't have to hate our families, divorce spouses, abandon our children and make them orphans to follow God with our whole heart, mind and soul. This can be done with making our families a part of it. Spending time praying, discussing the Word of God, and sharing testimonies with our families as well as others.

There are scriptures that teach us how to love our families and care for them, but you have already stated that you don't want to even consider those scriptures so I guess, I'm done here. There is not much more I can really say about it without using all of the Word of God because without taking all the scriptures together I would just be giving you an opinion of a few verses without putting it all into context.
What you think is of no importance to me.
Your failures are of no importance to me.
Maybe it is to God I do not know
So you need to tell Him these things
but not me.

For it is in vain before you ever start.
 

1ofthem

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#86
I will not give you an opinion because I do not have one.
I have already given you the commandment of Jesus the Christ.

Your argument or questions or concerns for it
is with Him not me.
Ok fine by me...Like I said before, you don't want to discuss the rest of the scriptures so there is not much more for us to discuss here.

So peace I'm out:)
 

unctus

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#87
Ok fine by me...Like I said before, you don't want to discuss the rest of the scriptures so there is not much more for us to discuss here.

So peace I'm out:)
What is there to discuss?

it is written exactly word for word as to that which
you and I are to do to obey Jesus the Christ.

I am not Adam or Eve

I need not discuss the word of God to believe it
word for word as it were said to me.

I am not going to say to Jesus

define hate.
 

tourist

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#88
You contradicted yourself several times in your attempt to condemn me.
It was not a statement of truth it was a question.

There are no contradictions in the truth.

True or false?
Where exactly in my post that I personally condemned you? I was merely stating my position and provided clarification to the 'free' part. You asked a question and then I answered it. Just because someone doesn't entirely agree with you does not mean that you are being attacked. I will not answer your latest question to spare you the anxiety that you are again under attack.
 

Dino246

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#89
If God were to ask you
if you believed I were more arrogant than you,
what would you reply to Him?
No worries; He wouldn't. You might know that if you read the Scriptures. You've already admitted that you haven't.
 

tourist

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#90
John 13:34​
A new commandment I give unto you,​
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​
that ye also love one another.​
The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​
The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​
Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​
If so point them out to me.​
Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​
or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​
Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​
the statements I made to you.​
Thank you.​



It is the nature of this forum to state one's opinion on theories, doctrines or theologies.

Being 'saved' does not necessarily mean that one will love others regardless whether Jesus loves them. If the saved follow the commandment then perhaps they will one day love their neighbor as themselves as Jesus loves them but this is not going to happen immediately and will only happen if the commandment is acted upon with love in their hearts given to them by God.

I hope that this clarities the errors and flaws found in your statement.
 

tourist

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#92
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.


The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.
The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.


A. True
B. False
C. None of the above
C. None of the above.
 

unctus

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#94
Where exactly in my post that I personally condemned you?
You didn't because it was false you condemned your own self.

I said you tried.

I did not say you were successful.
 

unctus

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It is the nature of this forum to state one's opinion on theories, doctrines or theologies.

Being 'saved' does not necessarily mean that one will love others regardless whether Jesus loves them. If the saved follow the commandment then perhaps they will one day love their neighbor as themselves as Jesus loves them but this is not going to happen immediately and will only happen if the commandment is acted upon with love in their hearts given to them by God.

I hope that this clarities the errors and flaws found in your statement.
I am not Adam or Eve

I do not need your opinion of what anything of God is defined.

If I did not know I would just ask God.
 

unctus

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#96
C. None of the above.
How come you do not believe it?

Or do you believe it?

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.
 

unctus

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#97
No worries; He wouldn't. You might know that if you read the Scriptures. You've already admitted that you haven't.
I admitted that I did not read the Book of Ephesians.

You sound like the fake news media.
 

tourist

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#98
How come you do not believe it?

Or do you believe it?

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.
Your reply does contain the full content of what I responded to just this single verse.

The question was whether or not that one that was saved would love others as Jesus loved them. I stated that this reasoning does not necessarily follow because that just because one is saved they are going to immediately follow in line with all the teaching of scripture.

I believe everything stated in the bible including this verse but questioned your entire post and not this passage.
 

unctus

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Your reply does contain the full content of what I responded to just this single verse.

The question was whether or not that one that was saved would love others as Jesus loved them. I stated that this reasoning does not necessarily follow because that just because one is saved they are going to immediately follow in line with all the teaching of scripture.

I believe everything stated in the bible including this verse but questioned your entire post and not this passage.
You believe them who are not saved
will love you as Jesus loved them

True or false?

Now either you believe it or don't

which is it?
 

preacher4truth

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John 13:34​
A new commandment I give unto you,​
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​
that ye also love one another.​
The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​
The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​
Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​
If so point them out to me.​
Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​
or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​
Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​
the statements I made to you.​
Thank you.​



So you've used Scripture then have given your theology on that Scripture, yet others are forbidden to use doctrines or theologies to rebut you?

Sorry, but we are 2 Timothy 2:15 people here for the most part and use Scripture and theology to defend the faith. There is no way to rebut you without using opinions, doctrines or theologies.