THE BIBLE AND THE NUMBER 46

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graceNpeace

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I see some hard hearts in here. Be humble and ask GOD to help examine yourselves, brothers/sisters.
You are new here, so perhaps a little context is required:

If someone started trying to convince you of some theological point based on the fact that the tooth fairy was real - I think you would question that, yes?

What we are doing is very similar.
James37 is basing everything he is saying on a fantasy.
The fantasy is that the KJV is special, so special that it contains revelation from God not found in any other Bible. So special that it contains all these "patterns" and numbers that are clearly from God and somehow have the significance he attaches to them.
None of these claims stand up to any kind of scrutiny, yet James37 persists with his ridiculous claims.

I made the observation early on that he would be better off reading Alice in Wonderland and I stand by that....

If you believe that his claims have any merit then that just makes you a fellow-traveller with him and subject to the same delusion and deception.
Hopefully, you will realise that he really is talking nonsense...
 
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All this and you still haven't demonstrated any understanding of Revelations 22:1.
My understanding is irrelevant to the structure of the Bible. The two aren't connected since it's structure existed long before me.
 
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[FONT=&quot]“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” (Revelation 22:1)[/FONT]


“And” 2863rd (7 x 409) verses of the NT. (case)
“And he” 1617 (77 x 7 x 3) occurrence in the 477th chapter and 42nd (7 x 6) book of the Bible. (case)
“he shewed” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence in the 14th verse and 14th chapter of the Bible.
“shewed” 37th verse of the NT.
“shew* me” 37th verse of the Bible and 7th chapter of the NT.
“a pure” 7th book of the Bible
“pure” 21st (7 x 3) occurrence in the NT and 28th (7 x 4) book of the Bible.
“pure*” 98 (7 x 7 x 2) verses of the Bible and 14 (7 x 2) books of the NT.
“river” 144th (12 x12 ) verse and 91st (7 x 13) chapter of the Bible.
“river*” 140th (7x 20) chapter and 35th (7 x 5) book.
“river* of” 47th chapter of the Bible.
“of water” 49th (7 x 7) verse and 23rd book of the Bible.
“of water” 7th occurrence in the 7th verses and 7th chapter of the Bible.
“water” 210th (7 x 30) chapter in the Bible and 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the NT
“water*” 713th (23 x 31) occurrence and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible
“water* 92nd (46 x 2) occurrence in the NT.
“water of” 35th (7 x 5) verses and the 12 book of the Bible. (37th and last occurrence is in Revelation 21:17)
“of life” 66th occurrence and 66th verses. (70th and last occurrence is in Revelation 22:19)
“life” 182nd (7 x 26) occurrence in the 166th verse of the NT and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible.
“life*” 184th (46 x 4) occurrence in the 168th (7 x 12 x 2) verse.
“clear” 14th (7 x 2) verse in the 12th chapter of the Bible.
“clear*” 7th chapter of the NT.
“crystal” this word is found only 5 times in the Bible and 3 are in Revelation.
“proceeding” only found once
“proceed*” 36th (12 x 3) occurrence in 23 books of the Bible.
“proceed*” 14th (7 x 2) chapters of the NT
“proceed* out” 7th occurrence in 7th verse and 7th chapter of the NT.
“out of”
“out of” 235th (47 x 5) verse in the 126th (7 x 18) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“the throne” 94th (47 x 2) occurrence in the 21st (7 x 3) book of the Bible. (case)
“throne” 175th (7 x 25) occurrence in the 105th (7 x 15) chapter of the Bible.
“throne*” 184th (46 x 4) [4 living creatures; 4 chambers in your heart and 46 chromosomes in your genetics. Does God dwell in temples made with hands?] in 28 (7 x 4) books of the Bible.
 
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[FONT=&quot]“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” (Revelation 22:1)[/FONT]


“And” 2863rd (7 x 409) verses of the NT. (case)
“And he” 1617 (77 x 7 x 3) occurrence in the 477th chapter and 42nd (7 x 6) book of the Bible. (case)
“he shewed” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence in the 14th verse and 14th chapter of the Bible.
“shewed” 37th verse of the NT.
“shew* me” 37th verse of the Bible and 7th chapter of the NT.
“a pure” 7th book of the Bible
“pure” 21st (7 x 3) occurrence in the NT and 28th (7 x 4) book of the Bible.
“pure*” 98 (7 x 7 x 2) verses of the Bible and 14 (7 x 2) books of the NT.
“river” 144th (12 x12 ) verse and 91st (7 x 13) chapter of the Bible.
“river*” 140th (7x 20) chapter and 35th (7 x 5) book.
“river* of” 47th chapter of the Bible.
“of water” 49th (7 x 7) verse and 23rd book of the Bible.
“of water” 7th occurrence in the 7th verses and 7th chapter of the Bible.
“water” 210th (7 x 30) chapter in the Bible and 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the NT
“water*” 713th (23 x 31) occurrence and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible
“water* 92nd (46 x 2) occurrence in the NT.
“water of” 35th (7 x 5) verses and the 12 book of the Bible. (37th and last occurrence is in Revelation 21:17)
“of life” 66th occurrence and 66th verses. (70th and last occurrence is in Revelation 22:19)
“life” 182nd (7 x 26) occurrence in the 166th verse of the NT and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible.
“life*” 184th (46 x 4) occurrence in the 168th (7 x 12 x 2) verse.
“clear” 14th (7 x 2) verse in the 12th chapter of the Bible.
“clear*” 7th chapter of the NT.
“crystal” this word is found only 5 times in the Bible and 3 are in Revelation.
“proceeding” only found once
“proceed*” 36th (12 x 3) occurrence in 23 books of the Bible.
“proceed*” 14th (7 x 2) chapters of the NT
“proceed* out” 7th occurrence in 7th verse and 7th chapter of the NT.
“out of”
“out of” 235th (47 x 5) verse in the 126th (7 x 18) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“the throne” 94th (47 x 2) occurrence in the 21st (7 x 3) book of the Bible. (case)
“throne” 175th (7 x 25) occurrence in the 105th (7 x 15) chapter of the Bible.
“throne*” 184th (46 x 4) in 28 (7 x 4) books of the Bible.
“of God” 983rd (prime number) occurrence in the 399th (7 x 19 x 3) chapter of the Bible.
“of God” 210th (70 x 3) chapter of the NT.
“God” 4070th (37 x 110) occurrence in the 3556 (7 x 408) verses and 63rd (7 x 9) book of the Bible.


It is interesting to me that 983 is the exact number of times that all forms of the name Jesus* occurs in the Bible. 3 of these instance however actually refer to someone other than the Lord in scripture.
 
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[FONT=&quot]“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” (Revelation 22:1)[/FONT]


“And” 2863rd (7 x 409) verses of the NT. (case)
“And he” 1617 (77 x 7 x 3) occurrence in the 477th chapter and 42nd (7 x 6) book of the Bible. (case)
“he shewed” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence in the 14th verse and 14th chapter of the Bible.
“shewed” 37th verse of the NT.
“shew* me” 37th verse of the Bible and 7th chapter of the NT.
“a pure” 7th book of the Bible
“pure” 21st (7 x 3) occurrence in the NT and 28th (7 x 4) book of the Bible.
“pure*” 98 (7 x 7 x 2) verses of the Bible and 14 (7 x 2) books of the NT.
“river” 144th (12 x12 ) verse and 91st (7 x 13) chapter of the Bible.
“river*” 140th (7x 20) chapter and 35th (7 x 5) book.
“river* of” 47th chapter of the Bible.
“of water” 49th (7 x 7) verse and 23rd book of the Bible.
“of water” 7th occurrence in the 7th verses and 7th chapter of the Bible.
“water” 210th (7 x 30) chapter in the Bible and 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the NT
“water*” 713th (23 x 31) occurrence and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible
“water* 92nd (46 x 2) occurrence in the NT.
“water of” 35th (7 x 5) verses and the 12 book of the Bible. (37th and last occurrence is in Revelation 21:17)
“of life” 66th occurrence and 66th verses. (70th and last occurrence is in Revelation 22:19)
“life” 182nd (7 x 26) occurrence in the 166th verse of the NT and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible.
“life*” 184th (46 x 4) occurrence in the 168th (7 x 12 x 2) verse.
“clear” 14th (7 x 2) verse in the 12th chapter of the Bible.
“clear*” 7th chapter of the NT.
“crystal” this word is found only 5 times in the Bible and 3 are in Revelation.
“proceeding” only found once
“proceed*” 36th (12 x 3) occurrence in 23 books of the Bible.
“proceed*” 14th (7 x 2) chapters of the NT
“proceed* out” 7th occurrence in 7th verse and 7th chapter of the NT.
“out of”
“out of” 235th (47 x 5) verse in the 126th (7 x 18) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“the throne” 94th (47 x 2) occurrence in the 21st (7 x 3) book of the Bible. (case)
“throne” 175th (7 x 25) occurrence in the 105th (7 x 15) chapter of the Bible.
“throne*” 184th (46 x 4) in 28 (7 x 4) books of the Bible.
“of God” 983rd (prime number) occurrence in the 399th (7 x 19 x 3) chapter of the Bible.
“of God” 210th (70 x 3) chapter of the NT.
“God” 4070th (37 x 110) occurrence in the 3556 (7 x 408) verses and 63rd (7 x 9) book of the Bible. (case)
“God*” 3572 (47 x 76) verse in the Bible (case)
“God” 4437 occurrence in 3769th verse.
“God*” 4488th verse (73 x 7 x 8) verse in the Bible.
“God” 1348th (337 x 4) occurrence in the NT.
“God*” 1407th (7 x 201) occurrence in the 1222 (47 x 26) verse.
“God and” 376th (47 x 8) verse in 276 (46 x 6) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“God and” 148th (37 x 4) occurrence in the 144th (12 x 12) verse of the Bible.
 

Dino246

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Good question. I have only been doing this since October. Since it is early I tend to select verses at the beginning or end of a book because they are much easier to count. I have requested and upgrade to the software to allow you to select and deselect individual chapters which will make counting verses lets say in the middle of Isaiah much easier. Revelation 22 is easy because it is at the end of the Bible. Many of the counts that I am posting right now are the final occurrence of a word or phrase in the Bible but I haven't been noting that. Revelation 22 is easy to count for anyone to verify this for themselves.
Thank you.

Here is a brief analysis of Revelation 22:1 in the NIV. The tools available to me are not as rigorous or extensive as those that James37 is using, but I offer this as evidence of numeric patterns in something other than the KJV. The reality is that if we look hard enough, we will find such numeric patterns in any larger body of text. The existence of such patterns unfortunately "proves" nothing at all, other than their own existence.

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb (NIV)



“Then” 53[SUP]rd[/SUP] (46 + 7) occurrence in Revelation.

(“Then” also appears exactly 413 (59 * 7) times in the Gospels)

“angel” appears 77 (7 * 11) times in Revelation.

“the angel” appears 28 (4 * 7) times in Revelation.

“the angel” appears 154 (22 * 7) times in Scripture.

“showed” 14[SUP]th[/SUP] (7 * 2) occurrence in the New Testament.

“me” occurs in 37 verses in Revelation.

“river” 7[SUP]th[/SUP] occurrence in Revelation, in 7[SUP]th[/SUP] verse in which this word appears.

“water of life” 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of 3 occurrences, all in Revelation.

“water” 14[SUP]th[/SUP] book of NT in which the word appears.

“life” 14[SUP]th[/SUP] occurrence in Revelation.

“clear” 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of 3 occurrences in Revelation.

“clear” appears 27 times in the OT and 39 times in the NT.

“crystal” 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of 3 occurrences in Revelation.

“flowing” 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of 3 occurrences in the NT.

“throne” 37[SUP]th[/SUP] occurrence in Revelation.

“throne of God” 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of 3 occurrences in Revelation.

I see no value in continuing to follow this kind of investigation. I'll stick with the plain text.
 
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[FONT=&quot]“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” (Revelation 22:1)[/FONT]


“And” 2863rd (7 x 409) verses of the NT. (case)
“And he” 1617 (77 x 7 x 3) occurrence in the 477th chapter and 42nd (7 x 6) book of the Bible. (case)
“he shewed” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence in the 14th verse and 14th chapter of the Bible.
“shewed” 37th verse of the NT.
“shew* me” 37th verse of the Bible and 7th chapter of the NT.
“a pure” 7th book of the Bible
“pure” 21st (7 x 3) occurrence in the NT and 28th (7 x 4) book of the Bible.
“pure*” 98 (7 x 7 x 2) verses of the Bible and 14 (7 x 2) books of the NT.
“river” 144th (12 x12 ) verse and 91st (7 x 13) chapter of the Bible.
“river*” 140th (7x 20) chapter and 35th (7 x 5) book.
“river* of” 47th chapter of the Bible.
“of water” 49th (7 x 7) verse and 23rd book of the Bible.
“of water” 7th occurrence in the 7th verses and 7th chapter of the Bible.
“water” 210th (7 x 30) chapter in the Bible and 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the NT
“water*” 713th (23 x 31) occurrence and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible
“water* 92nd (46 x 2) occurrence in the NT.
“water of” 35th (7 x 5) verses and the 12 book of the Bible. (37th and last occurrence is in Revelation 21:17)
“of life” 66th occurrence and 66th verses. (70th and last occurrence is in Revelation 22:19)
“life” 182nd (7 x 26) occurrence in the 166th verse of the NT and 49th (7 x 7) book of the Bible.
“life*” 184th (46 x 4) occurrence in the 168th (7 x 12 x 2) verse.
“clear” 14th (7 x 2) verse in the 12th chapter of the Bible.
“clear*” 7th chapter of the NT.
“crystal” this word is found only 5 times in the Bible and 3 are in Revelation.
“proceeding” only found once
“proceed*” 36th (12 x 3) occurrence in 23 books of the Bible.
“proceed*” 14th (7 x 2) chapters of the NT
“proceed* out” 7th occurrence in 7th verse and 7th chapter of the NT.
“out of”
“out of” 235th (47 x 5) verse in the 126th (7 x 18) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“the throne” 94th (47 x 2) occurrence in the 21st (7 x 3) book of the Bible. (case)
“throne” 175th (7 x 25) occurrence in the 105th (7 x 15) chapter of the Bible.
“throne*” 184th (46 x 4) in 28 (7 x 4) books of the Bible.
“of God” 983rd (prime number) occurrence in the 399th (7 x 19 x 3) chapter of the Bible.
“of God” 210th (70 x 3) chapter of the NT.
“God” 4070th (37 x 110) occurrence in the 3556 (7 x 408) verses and 63rd (7 x 9) book of the Bible. (case)
“God*” 3572 (47 x 76) verse in the Bible (case)
“God” 4437 occurrence in 3769th verse.
“God*” 4488th verse (73 x 7 x 8) verse in the Bible.
“God” 1348th (337 x 4) occurrence in the NT.
“God*” 1407th (7 x 201) occurrence in the 1222 (47 x 26) verse.
“God and” 376th (47 x 8) verse in 276 (46 x 6) chapter of the Bible. (case)
“God and” 148th (37 x 4) occurrence in the 144th (12 x 12) verse of the Bible.
“God and of” 7th occurrence and 7th verse of the NT.
“the Lamb” 37th occurrence in 21 (7 x 3) chapters of the Bible.
“Lamb” 28th (7 x 4) verse in 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the NT.
“the Lamb” 23rd verse in 12 chapters of the Bible. (case)


I still need to check for any errors but it is done for the most part. Who could have predicted that all of those 37’s would show up at the end!
 
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Number words have a spiritual meaning set aside to be used in parable.

What the spiritual meaning purposed in this GREATEST COMMON FACTOR (GCF) pattern that you purpose?

A person should listen to the math teacher as if they were hearing the gospel ?

A number that divides another number evenly is called a factor of that number. For example, 16can be divided evenly by 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16. So the numbers 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16 are called factors of16. To find the factors of a number, begin with 1 and the number itself, then divide the number by2, 3, 4, etc., taking only pairs of factors that divide the number evenly. Stop when the factors startto repeat.2) A number that divides a given set of numbers is called a common factor of the numbers. Forexample, if we list the factors of 16 and 24, we can see these numbers share common factors of 1,2, 4, and 8. The greatest common factor (GCF) is the largest common factor that the numbersshare. Here, 8 is the largest common factor of 16 and 24. So the GCF of 16 and 24 is 8.Factors of 16 : 1, 2, 4, 8, 16Factors of 24: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 24To find the GCF of a given set of numbers, list the factors of each number to find their greatestcommon factor.
 
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Thank you.

Here is a brief analysis of Revelation 22:1 in the NIV. The tools available to me are not as rigorous or extensive as those that James37 is using, but I offer this as evidence of numeric patterns in something other than the KJV. The reality is that if we look hard enough, we will find such numeric patterns in any larger body of text. The existence of such patterns unfortunately "proves" nothing at all, other than their own existence.
You are overlooking one huge difference Dino246. What I have just now posted is specific to Revelation 22:1 and it alone. The point is that they converge on the verse in question. you jumped all over the Bible first off as where I didn't. What I presented is nth occurrence of the word, verse containing a word in Revelation 22:1 and the the nth chapter and book for Revelation 22. You erected a straw man by jumping all around.
 
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Thank you.

Here is a brief analysis of Revelation 22:1 in the NIV. The tools available to me are not as rigorous or extensive as those that James37 is using, but I offer this as evidence of numeric patterns in something other than the KJV. The reality is that if we look hard enough, we will find such numeric patterns in any larger body of text. The existence of such patterns unfortunately "proves" nothing at all, other than their own existence.

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb (NIV)



“Then” 53[SUP]rd[/SUP] (46 + 7) occurrence in Revelation.
You show your dishonesty right out the gate. 53 is not a multiple of 7 so you really had to reach for this one.
 

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You are overlooking one huge difference Dino246. What I have just now posted is specific to Revelation 22:1 and it alone. The point is that they converge on the verse in question. you jumped all over the Bible first off as where I didn't. What I presented is nth occurrence of the word, verse containing a word in Revelation 22:1 and the the nth chapter and book for Revelation 22. You erected a straw man by jumping all around.
As I said in my opening, I don't have access to such rigorous tools, and that was a brief analysis.

"Straw man" is the wrong term, by the way. Nothing that I did was fallacious.

The reason I asked the question previously is that it is very easy to select what numbers you emphasize. We cannot know whether you have done extensive research and merely selected the verses that show a greater convergence of supposedly-important numbers. Try your analysis on Rev. 22:2, Rev. 22:3, etc. Sure, you'll find interesting number occurrences, but you would find such things in any larger body of text and in any translation.

What I'm trying to put across to you is that the number patterns don't "prove" anything at all. If you appreciate them, fine... have at it. I will challenge you on two things though: spend at least as much time studying the plain text as you do the number patterns, and spend at least as much time sharing the plain gospel with unbelievers. Prove to them that Jesus exists... that would be of far greater value.
 

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You show your dishonesty right out the gate. 53 is not a multiple of 7 so you really had to reach for this one.

Originally Posted by James37

"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." Psalm 2:12

"kiss*"found in 37 chapters of the Bible
"the Son" found in 370 chapters of the Bible (any case)
"Son" (case) 137 chapters of the Bible


"Son" (case) 37 chapters of the OT
As I recall, you use adding in some of your nonsense. He clearly stated that 46 + 7 = 53rd occurrence in Revelation. (And 53 it special to me, because I was born in 1953.) So, in the bolded portion of this quote from you, you have used adding.
37 + 100= 137. So, you do make up your rules as you go along, then forget them when it is convenient - like when someone calls you by actually looking at the numbers in the NIV, to show you that any text can be manipulated, exactly as you have done!

So, even when someone shows you point blank that you can manipulate any version to have these number patterns, you are just going to apply different rules, than even you use, and throw it out.

Pretty dishonest coverup!

PS. I trust Dino! I've known him a while, he is consistent and loves Jesus. So, if he wants to add a new rule, I am all for supporting him. Unless it is an old rule. The point is, you are dishonest, and you lie. And no! I'm not going back through the rest of this thread, and finding the website you used! Or maybe I will.

So code website, or your own hand written notes? You still have not answered me. You have lied repeatedly to this forum. Do you even know you are lying? I am curious, because you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper!

Oh, and do you even know Jesus, at all? You seem to love numbers more than God. And made-up numbers at that!
 
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As I said in my opening, I don't have access to such rigorous tools, and that was a brief analysis.

"Straw man" is the wrong term, by the way. Nothing that I did was fallacious.
It is a straw man because you comparing apples to oranges! By the way you forgot to subtract out the the footnote for "Throne" contained in Revelation 4:1 of the NIV. Revelation 22:1 is the 40th occurrence of the word "throne" and the 36th verses containing the word "throne" or "thrones." I guess if you want to count the footnote you can say 37. It is the 43rd occurrence of "throne" (throne or thrones) in the book of Revelation in the NIV.
 
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As I recall, you use adding in some of your nonsense. He clearly stated that 46 + 7 = 53rd occurrence in Revelation. (And 53 it special to me, because I was born in 1953.) So, in the bolded portion of this quote from you, you have used adding.
37 + 100= 137. So, you do make up your rules as you go along, then forget them when it is convenient - like when someone calls you by actually looking at the numbers in the NIV, to show you that any text can be manipulated, exactly as you have done!
Actually I don't because 137 is a prime number and all I do is factor. You cannot factor the number 137 just as you cannot factor the number 53. A simple rule of mathematics. With your reasoning any number greater than 37 could be counted. 38 = 37 +1; It is meaningless.
 
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As I said in my opening, I don't have access to such rigorous tools, and that was a brief analysis.

"Straw man" is the wrong term, by the way. Nothing that I did was fallacious.
I understand that it is difficult to count words and phrases in the NIV using Bible Gateway. It counts all the words in the footnotes as well as the text. The number it does give is a count of verses only on not occurrences. If you search "throne" it will return "throne" or "thrones".
 

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It is a straw man because you comparing apples to oranges!
Unfortunately, you don't know what a straw man argument is. I'm not going to explain it to you, because you are clearly capable of doing your own research.
 
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Unfortunately, you don't know what a straw man argument is. I'm not going to explain it to you, because you are clearly capable of doing your own research.
[ The Angel and the Little Scroll ] Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars. Revelation 10:1 NIV

You counted this verse in your count of the "the angel" 154 in the NIV and 28 times in the NIV (all the number you gave were verses and not occurrences) so now you have 153 times in the NIV and 27 times in Revelation of the NIV. The numbers you presented aren't even accurate so you cannot trust anything you posted as far as the NIV is concerned.
 
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“clear” appears 27 times in the OT and 39 times in the NT.
[ Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts ] The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

Actually you counted this so your 39 is now 38.