The Biblical Sabbath Day

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First of all the Bible does not speak of "Sunday" but always of "the first day of the week". So look up all the references to "the first day of the week" or "the Lord's Day" and then come back and tell us that there is nothing in Scripture about this important day -- the day of the resurrection of Christ.

The term Lord's day is used only once in Scripture. Revelation 1:10 says, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet."

The Bible recognizes that the seventh day, the Sabbath, is the Lord's special day. From the very beginning of time, God blessed and sanctified the seventh day:
"God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made" (Genesis 2:3).

You can worship any day of the week you choose. You can not change the fact that the seventh day, Saturday, is Biblically the Sabbath. The 4th Commandment is crystal clear. God rested on the 7th day and made it holy. God saw the 7th day important enough to make a Commandment concerning it. Sunday is an important day, so are the rest of the days of the week. God created everything from Sunday through Friday. Also, a pagan sun worshipper, Constantine of Rome, changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday in 321 AD, I will never recognize the first day of the week as the Sabbath. It goes against God's 4th Commandment.
 

Blik

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The Sabbath was given to Israel, not the Church. And your comment above shows that you have ignored what is revealed in the New Testament regarding the Lord's Day.
If you actually think that God speaks to Israel with one set of truths, and to others with a different truth, so one is a lie and the other is truth, then you go right ahead and do that, but as for me I believe God is truth.

Galatians 3: 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
 

JaumeJ

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First of all the Bible does not speak of "Sunday" but always of "the first day of the week". So look up all the references to "the first day of the week" or "the Lord's Day" and then come back and tell us that there is nothing in Scripture about this important day -- the day of the resurrection of Christ.
Why then are we not using the Biblical Lunar Calendar? This question is rhetorical.
 

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The biblical LORD'S DAY is in fact the first day of the week and is observed by Christians. Unless you are promoting Seventh Day Adventism, this post has no bearing on Christian worship, rest, and good works. Unsaved Jews still observe the 7th day Sabbath, and that is because they reject Christ.
Please give a bible verse....
There is no verse in my Bible that states that sunday is the Lords day.
 

TMS

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Col 2:16-17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

What was a shadow of Christ?

These things that Paul was listing were a shadow of Christ, especially in his day.

The sacrifice and food, the days that they kept holy in their cerimonial laws all pointed to Christ. There are many sabbaths that are part of the cerimonial laws kept each year.

The seventh day Sabbath is different.

The weekly sabbath was set up to remind us of our creator. It wasn't a shadow of the life and death of Jesus.

So the verse in Col 2 is referring to shadow laws, which the weekly Sabbath was not part of.
 

JaumeJ

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Col 2:16-17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

What was a shadow of Christ?

These things that Paul was listing were a shadow of Christ, especially in his day.

The sacrifice and food, the days that they kept holy in their cerimonial laws all pointed to Christ. There are many sabbaths that are part of the cerimonial laws kept each year.

The seventh day Sabbath is different.

The weekly sabbath was set up to remind us of our creator. It wasn't a shadow of the life and death of Jesus.

So the verse in Col 2 is referring to shadow laws, which the weekly Sabbath was not part of.
A sad fact, most proclaiming Christians have no idea as to the meanings of the various Sabbaths. Admittedly, I am not fully abreast with each's significance, or I simply do not recall, however,, today people think of it as simply Sunday, the pagan name for the first day, a double error I believe.
My favorite understanding of the Sabbath is the eternal existence with Jesus Yeshua, but that is simply my holding to it.
You did well making reference to the true Sabbath, and this is so very important for so many to grasp upon. It gives peace, never turmoil God bless you always.
 

TMS

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Col 2:14-17
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

If the 10 commandments are blotted out.

All are taken out of the way. Nailed to the cross.

The Ten commandments were not nailed to the cross. Because.....
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Rom 7:12. Verse 14 states it is also spiritual.

The Moral Law is not against us. It helps us to reframe from sin. Don't lie, Don't steal, Don't covert, don't take God's name in vain. Etc.

Paul was not talking of a past law.. he said the law IS holy, IS spiritual. It IS a perfect holy, Spiritual law that is alive and operating. Paul would not say the same law is nailed to the cross and not valid.

In Col 2 the law WAS against us and WAS contrary to us....

Paul must be talking about 2 different laws.

Eph 6:1-3
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which IS the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Notice that Paul states that this commandment IS not WAS.
 

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Col 2:16-17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

What was a shadow of Christ?

These things that Paul was listing were a shadow of Christ, especially in his day.

The sacrifice and food, the days that they kept holy in their cerimonial laws all pointed to Christ. There are many sabbaths that are part of the cerimonial laws kept each year.

The seventh day Sabbath is different.

The weekly sabbath was set up to remind us of our creator. It wasn't a shadow of the life and death of Jesus.

So the verse in Col 2 is referring to shadow laws, which the weekly Sabbath was not part of.
I believe that, while it's not a shadow of the life and death of Jesus, it is a shadow of the rest that we find in Him... and it too is fulfilled.
 

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It is also the only commandment not repeated at any time in the New Testament.

In fact, according to the Jewish religious leaders at the time, Jesus broke the Sabbath, and they sought to kill Him for it.

However, Jesus justified working on the Sabbath, and said His Father works on the Sabbath also.
Not being repeated in the NT ? see below in mat 12, jesus does speak of the sabbath and gives a lesson to the pharisees about it!
As for Yeshua doing GOOD WORKS on the sabbath , Yeshua is the son of GOD and the lord of the sabbath.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Blessings on this sabbath day.
 
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Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

Jesus made it clear the He did not come to destroy the Law (10 Commandments) but to fulfill.
The Law given to Moses by God is unchanged by Jesus' time on earth.

It is true that Jesus died on Friday and resurrected on Sunday. He was not resurrected on the Sabbath.
 
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Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

Jesus made it clear the He did not come to destroy the Law (10 Commandments) but to fulfill.
The Law given to Moses by God is unchanged by Jesus' time on earth.

It is true that Jesus died on Friday and resurrected on Sunday. He was not resurrected on the Sabbath.
I was raised in a nondenominational church. The 4th Commandment was never mentioned, taught nor discussed, not even once. So, it not what I was taught that mattered so much as what I was not taught.

One thing will remain forever true, I will never knowingly nor intentionally violate any of God's 10 Commandments, even the 4th Commandment which instructs me to "remember" the Sabbath. I will not be persuaded to forget the Sabbath by a pagen sun worshipper who changed the Sabbath day to suit his pagan beliefs.
 

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I was raised in a nondenominational church. The 4th Commandment was never mentioned, taught nor discussed, not even once. So, it not what I was taught that mattered so much as what I was not taught.

One thing will remain forever true, I will never knowingly nor intentionally violate any of God's 10 Commandments, even the 4th Commandment which instructs me to "remember" the Sabbath. I will not be persuaded to forget the Sabbath by a pagen sun worshipper who changed the Sabbath day to suit his pagan beliefs.
Good for you.
 
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Being cynical is a sign of weakness.

The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God;' as if God had said, The Sabbath-day is my due, I challenge a special right in it, and no other has any claim to it. He who robs me of this day, and puts it to common uses, is a sacrilegious person, he steals from the crown of heaven, and I will in nowise hold him guiltless.

Our society was built around the premise that Monday thru Friday are work days and Saturday and Sunday are the weekend. Blue Laws of old prohibited many commercial activities based on Sunday being the Sabbath. Rome has again succeeded with desecrating God's Law. Christians worshipping on Sunday is not sacrilegious, because this practice is ingrained into society. However, when the Vatican succeeds in having governments enact a Sunday Law of rest, people will have to choose whether to abide by God's Law or man's law. That will be the true test for Commandment-following Christians.

Rome has made extensive efforts to desecrate the Scriptures and our relationship with God since Jesus was born.. A plan to change our calender was proposed, and I feel that it is only a matter of time that Friday will be the first day of the week and Sunday the seventh.
 

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Why then are we not using the Biblical Lunar Calendar? This question is rhetorical.
The Lunar Calendar was tied into the Law of Moses. Since that is null and void, it makes no difference now.
 

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Not being repeated in the NT ? see below in mat 12, jesus does speak of the sabbath and gives a lesson to the pharisees about it!
As for Yeshua doing GOOD WORKS on the sabbath , Yeshua is the son of GOD and the lord of the sabbath.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Blessings on this sabbath day.
Speaking of the Sabbath day is not repeating the commandment. And you know, my own post
mentions that the Sabbath was spoken of. But you are not the first person to make this mistake.
 

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Speaking of the Sabbath day is not repeating the commandment. And you know, my own post
mentions that the Sabbath was spoken of. But you are not the first person to make this mistake.
Hello Magenta, what do you imply then when you say Speaking of the Sabbath day is not repeating the commandment. are you implying there is no such commandment and it should not be followed, or is now invalid?
 

Magenta

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Hello Magenta, what do you imply then when you say Speaking of the Sabbath day is not repeating the commandment. are you implying there is no such commandment and it should not be followed, or is now invalid?
Imply? I have outright said that the Sabbath commandment is nowhere repeated in the New Testament.
It is also the only commandment not repeated at any time in the New Testament.

In fact, according to the Jewish religious leaders at the time, Jesus broke the Sabbath, and they sought to kill Him for it.

However, Jesus justified working on the Sabbath, and said His Father works on the Sabbath also.
 

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Some times I have seen or heard The Day of the Lord, and other times I have heard The Lord's Day. Is there a difference?
Since there is only ONE PLACE in the entire Bible that uses the phrase The Lord's Day, that leaves plenty of room for opinions and false beliefs to creep in. The following is THE DAY OF THE LORD and that is not a pretty site.

Isa_13:6 Wail, for the day of the LORD is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty.

Isa_13:9 See, the day of the LORD is coming —a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger— to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.

Lam_2:22 "As you summon to a feast day, so you summoned against me terrors on every side. In the day of the LORD's anger no one escaped or survived; those I cared for and reared my enemy has destroyed."

Eze_7:19 "'They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean. Their silver and gold will not be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath. It will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs, for it has caused them to stumble into sin.

Eze_13:5 You have not gone up to the breaches in the wall to repair it for the people of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the LORD.

Eze_30:3 For the day is near, the day of the LORD is near— a day of clouds, a time of doom for the nations.

Joe_1:15 Alas for that day! For the day of the LORD is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty.

etc. etc. So the day of the LORD is destruction, by the Almighty Himself. All this climate change and severe weather, and famine and drought, fires, floods, are all from the LORD and it is only going to get worse. In Revelation the Lord's Day is this end times scenario we are living in right now. (There is a biblical principle called "a day for a year principle". I often wonder if this day of the LORD will last ONE YEAR, Perhaps the 3 1/2 years of the second half of the tribulation is cut short to only 2 1/2 years and that final year is the LORD's wrath being poured out like the Revelation trumpets, seals, and bowls being poured out on a lawless and unrepentant world.


Joe_2:1 Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the LORD is coming. It is close at hand—

Joe_2:11 The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty is the army that obeys his command. The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?

Joe_2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.
Joe_3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Amo_5:18 Woe to you who long for the day of the LORD! Why do you long for the day of the LORD? That day will be darkness, not light.
Amo_5:20 Will not the day of the LORD be darkness, not light— pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?
Oba_1:15 "The day of the LORD is near for all nations. As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.
Zep_1:7 Be silent before the Sovereign LORD, for the day of the LORD is near. The LORD has prepared a sacrifice; he has consecrated those he has invited.
Zep_1:8 "On the day of the LORD's sacrifice I will punish the officials and the king's sons and all those clad in foreign clothes.
Zep_1:14 The great day of the LORD is near— near and coming quickly. The cry on the day of the LORD is bitter; the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry.
Zep_1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them on the day of the LORD's wrath." In the fire of his jealousy the whole earth will be consumed, for he will make a sudden end of all who live on the earth.
Zep_2:2 before the decree takes effect and that day passes like windblown chaff, before the LORD's fierce anger comes upon you, before the day of the LORD's wrath comes upon you.
Zep_2:3 Seek the LORD, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the LORD's anger.
Zec_14:1 A day of the LORD is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.
Mal_4:5 "See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes.
Act_2:20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
1Co_5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
2Co_1:14 as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1Th_5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
2Th_2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
2Pe_3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.