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The Biblical Sabbath Day
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Let me correct this. I meant to use the word Jews, not Jesus. I know Messianic Jews who follow their perceived Laws to the tee. I personally don't care what Commandment people choose not to follow because I do not judge anyone for the err of their ways. Nor, do I continue conversing with those bent on being disrespectful, immature and sarcastic if they cannot contribute to a conversation with reason and maturity.
Thank you for clarifying I understand people caring about which commandments to follow,
since our very lives can depend on people not murdering us. And, wouldn't the whole wide world
be a whole lot better if people were to stop bearing false witness? That alone would make everything
unrecognizable from what it is and where we are today. The law was given as a schoolmaster to lead
us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. The Law gives knowledge of sin, and by showing us our
need of pardon, and our danger of damnation, the Law will lead us to repentance, and faith.
Romans 13:10
I understand people caring about which commandments to follow, since our very lives can depend on people not murdering us. And, wouldn't the whole wide world
be a whole lot better if people were to stop bearing false witness? That alone would make everything
unrecognizable from what it is and where we are today. The law was given as a schoolmaster to lead
us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. The Law gives knowledge of sin, and by showing us our
need of pardon, and our danger of damnation, the Law will lead us to repentance, and faith.
Romans 13:10
Thank you for this wonderful reply.
There is a prophecy cited three different ways in the Word, stating "The earth lies polluted, under its inhabitants for the fruit of their doing."
Because of this, I believe our Lord has "allowed" mankind to cause all that has come upon the earth, the global warming and all of its effects. Yet mankind is not willing to truly do anything aabout what he has wrought on this gift called earth.
It is not our Lord Who has wrought this decadence and destruction, not, our Lord has allowed mankind to do this.
When our Lord does act, it will be obvious to all mankind.
We cannot hasgten that daay, but we can pray to be prepared for the days to come until the return ofour Blessed Savior, and I pray for this daily.
I mentioned we cannot hasten thie day, nor do any of us want to but we must pray to be prepared for His will to be done.
Nowhere is it mentioned that the Day of the Lord is the Sabbath in any of your brilliant quotes, so I am edified and more convinced than ever it is not what others keep saying, pretending, they know, it is.
God bless you always.
There is a prophecy cited three different ways in the Word, stating "The earth lies polluted, under its inhabitants for the fruit of their doing."
Because of this, I believe our Lord has "allowed" mankind to cause all that has come upon the earth, the global warming and all of its effects. Yet mankind is not willing to truly do anything aabout what he has wrought on this gift called earth.
It is not our Lord Who has wrought this decadence and destruction, not, our Lord has allowed mankind to do this.
When our Lord does act, it will be obvious to all mankind.
We cannot hasgten that daay, but we can pray to be prepared for the days to come until the return ofour Blessed Savior, and I pray for this daily.
I mentioned we cannot hasten thie day, nor do any of us want to but we must pray to be prepared for His will to be done.
Nowhere is it mentioned that the Day of the Lord is the Sabbath in any of your brilliant quotes, so I am edified and more convinced than ever it is not what others keep saying, pretending, they know, it is.
God bless you always.
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Thank you for clarifying I understand people caring about which commandments to follow,
since our very lives can depend on people not murdering us. And, wouldn't the whole wide world
be a whole lot better if people were to stop bearing false witness? That alone would make everything
unrecognizable from what it is and where we are today. The law was given as a schoolmaster to lead
us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. The Law gives knowledge of sin, and by showing us our
need of pardon, and our danger of damnation, the Law will lead us to repentance, and faith.
Romans 13:10
I understand people caring about which commandments to follow, since our very lives can depend on people not murdering us. And, wouldn't the whole wide world
be a whole lot better if people were to stop bearing false witness? That alone would make everything
unrecognizable from what it is and where we are today. The law was given as a schoolmaster to lead
us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. The Law gives knowledge of sin, and by showing us our
need of pardon, and our danger of damnation, the Law will lead us to repentance, and faith.
Romans 13:10
I was not replying to you, Sir. I am sorry for the confusion. I saw your post as relevant and respectful. It was the "Woo-hoo look at me I'm a Sabbath keeper" comment that I found immature and disrespectful. Enough so, that I may exit this forum for the risk of expressing my thoughts in a less than Christian way.
God Bless You!
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SATAN has his mark or sign, in the right hand or the forehead. YHWH also has a mark/sign.
Exodus 31:13 "Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12 Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the LORD made them holy.
Ezekiel 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God."
Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation/Yeshua H3444 of our God.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
H3444
ישׁוּעה
yeshû‛âh
yesh-oo’-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: - deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
Psalms 98:1 A Psalm. O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory.
2 The LORD hath made known his salvation/Yehsua (H3444): his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the sight of the heathen.
3 He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation/Yeshua (H3444) of our God.
Exodus 31:13 "Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12 Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the LORD made them holy.
Ezekiel 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God."
Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation/Yeshua H3444 of our God.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
H3444
ישׁוּעה
yeshû‛âh
yesh-oo’-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: - deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
Psalms 98:1 A Psalm. O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory.
2 The LORD hath made known his salvation/Yehsua (H3444): his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the sight of the heathen.
3 He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation/Yeshua (H3444) of our God.
Hello Magenta, Do this mean anything to you? Luke 4:16-30 Kjv Rejection At Nazareth - Search (bing.com)
Love, Walter
Love, Walter
It is obvious from these that the 7th day Sabbath was a "sign" between Israel and God. Not between the Church and God. In fact, for the Church, the Sabbath days are "shadows" and the reality is Christ. The believers eternal Sabbath is in and through Christ. But the Lord's Day is for the Church, and the Lord's Supper is for the Lord's Day.
Only metaphorically and spiritually speaking.
But Israel (the twelve tribes in reality) received the Sabbath as a "sign" between that nation and God. And because Israel failed to keep the sabbaths of the land, they went into Babylonian captivity for seventy years. To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years. (2 Chron 36:21).
But Israel (the twelve tribes in reality) received the Sabbath as a "sign" between that nation and God. And because Israel failed to keep the sabbaths of the land, they went into Babylonian captivity for seventy years. To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years. (2 Chron 36:21).
Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Jesus did not come to start a new religion called Christians. He came to renew the Marriage Covenant and include all gentiles and aliens and foreigners who want to be part of the commonwealth of Israel. Jesus was and will always be a Jew, an Israelite, and in His own words he said Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jesus was sinless and therefore he cannot tell a lie and be our Messiah. What is a lie is the doctrine of dispensations.
Jeremiah 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
From wikipedia: Dispensationalists use a literal interpretation of the Bible and believe that divine revelation unfolds throughout the Bible. They believe that there is a distinction between Israel and the Church and that Christians are not bound by Mosaic law.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
The LORD/YHWH is Yeshua/Salvation.
Psalms 98:2 The LORD has made his salvation known. He has uncovered his righteousness for the nations to see.
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Thank you, Magenta. Immature, insulting people cause harm to every church and it's members by the fact that many people observing their childish, humiliating remarks blame the church itself for condoning such condescending ways. These immature people can not even discern the difference of a normal, adult conversation and lash out with ridicule.
I was accused for "pushing" seventh-day worship when I was merely pointing out Biblical facts as I interpret them. Like I said and mean, I could not care less what day people choose to worship. Nonetheless, there can not be two Sabbath days. People today follow customs set forth in society, just as the Jews did in the olden days. Anyone who challenged their customs and traditions was ridiculed and many put to death for not complying with the standard norms. Jesus was a prime example of this ignorance ingrained in society. He was ridiculed, mocked, scourged and crucified because He did not follow Jewish tradional rituals. In my opinion, Sunday worship is no different. Sunday is customarily societies day of worship and many people feel threatened by anyone who challenges these societal norms. Do I think that occasionally worshipping on the first day of the week is a violation of the God's Commandment? Do I think that occasionally murdering someone is a violation? Do I think that occasionally using the Lord's name in vain is a violation? Do I think occasionally worshipping graven images is a violation? Do I think that occasionally disrespecting their mother and father is a violation? Do I think that occasionally committing adultery is a violation? Do I think that coveting a neighbors wife or property a violation? Do I think the occasionally stealing is a violation? Do I think the occasionally bearing false witness is a violation? Do I think that occasionally putting others God's before God Almighty is a violation?
Hmm? Rather than answer, I leave my opinions in the suggestion box at church and see what the congregation says. My pastor had dinner with us yesterday and fell asleep in a lounge chair for two hours, so I didn't mention this conversation to him. I'm sure his answer to all of my questions is more relevant than mine, considering his Ph.D. in Divinity.
I was accused for "pushing" seventh-day worship when I was merely pointing out Biblical facts as I interpret them. Like I said and mean, I could not care less what day people choose to worship. Nonetheless, there can not be two Sabbath days. People today follow customs set forth in society, just as the Jews did in the olden days. Anyone who challenged their customs and traditions was ridiculed and many put to death for not complying with the standard norms. Jesus was a prime example of this ignorance ingrained in society. He was ridiculed, mocked, scourged and crucified because He did not follow Jewish tradional rituals. In my opinion, Sunday worship is no different. Sunday is customarily societies day of worship and many people feel threatened by anyone who challenges these societal norms. Do I think that occasionally worshipping on the first day of the week is a violation of the God's Commandment? Do I think that occasionally murdering someone is a violation? Do I think that occasionally using the Lord's name in vain is a violation? Do I think occasionally worshipping graven images is a violation? Do I think that occasionally disrespecting their mother and father is a violation? Do I think that occasionally committing adultery is a violation? Do I think that coveting a neighbors wife or property a violation? Do I think the occasionally stealing is a violation? Do I think the occasionally bearing false witness is a violation? Do I think that occasionally putting others God's before God Almighty is a violation?
Hmm? Rather than answer, I leave my opinions in the suggestion box at church and see what the congregation says. My pastor had dinner with us yesterday and fell asleep in a lounge chair for two hours, so I didn't mention this conversation to him. I'm sure his answer to all of my questions is more relevant than mine, considering his Ph.D. in Divinity.
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There are those here who often speak in exaggerations to the point of being dishonest, contradict Scripture while criticizing those who they claim do likewise, even when the other has not, are more often than not heavy handed in their replies to others as if that makes what they say any more true than if they simply stated the facts (being bombastic), and bear false witness repeatedly, not only of others, but of themselves. However, including occasionally worshipping God on a Sunday with occasionally murdering, occasionally committing adultery etc, seems more than a bit off. Worshipping God in Spirit and in Truth is something Christians should be doing every single day.
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There are those here who often speak in exaggerations to the point of being dishonest, contradict Scripture while criticizing those who they claim do likewise, even when the other has not, are more often than not heavy handed in their replies to others as if that makes what they say any more true than if they simply stated the facts (being bombastic), and bear false witness repeatedly, not only of other
s, but of themselves. However, including occasionally worshipping God on a Sunday with occasionally murdering, occasionally committing adultery etc, seems more than a bit off. Worshipping God in Spirit and in Truth is something Christians should be doing every single day.
s, but of themselves. However, including occasionally worshipping God on a Sunday with occasionally murdering, occasionally committing adultery etc, seems more than a bit off. Worshipping God in Spirit and in Truth is something Christians should be doing every single day.
I've been studying Biblical history for over a year now. I've learned more in one year than I have learned my entire life.
Sorry, I don't know how to work this site. The picture wasn't meant to be there.
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No worries about the pic, but for future reference, when you see something you do not want in your post, you
have a five minute edit window. That looks like something that came from your device, so you would have to
use the Delete option provided for images when editing, that shows up beneath your post when you view it .
have a five minute edit window. That looks like something that came from your device, so you would have to
use the Delete option provided for images when editing, that shows up beneath your post when you view it .