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Blain

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Revelation 18

King James Version (KJV)

18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.



Who is Babylon the great ?

What is the wine of fornication ?

How did the merchants get rich by her fornication ?
umm, what exactly does this have to do Christmas trees?
 
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Does not the devil use the bible to decieve people ? just asking Jw, Roman catholics , Sda, the same bible but hmmm all claim to be glorifying God
 
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umm, what exactly does this have to do Christmas trees?

Babylon is the Roman catholic Church that the whole world wonders after because of her false doctrine that introduce christmas and easter etc . These holidays are money makers and Vatican continues to gain from it .
 
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Blain could answer me why Jesus said
Matthew 7

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 

Blain

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Hmmmmm lets see why satan will do that christmas thing

Isaiah 30

8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:
10Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
your ability to use scripture out of context is decent but it has nothing to do with Christmas. anyways I am quite finished with discussion
 

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Blain could answer me why Jesus said
Matthew 7

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Why do you ask me the obvious? If you wish to continue debating this fine with me but this discussion is over, If Christmas is wrong I am sure God will show me soon enough.
 
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Wide road = majority of people in the world that wonders after the beast hmmmm the whole world celbrates christmas easter halloween etc whyyyyyyy

Straight gate = few in the world that do not celebrate what the majority of the world does and will always be scoff at because they do not follow tradition and the multitude

Revelation 18

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

 
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In my country Hindus , Muslims celebrate chritsmas and i wonder why hmmmm its the money imagine a muslim selling christmas stuff .
 
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Christmas has become an economic staple ( imagine that) for many corporations and has nothing to do with the birth of christ. Now the tree can be argued. Many say that the druids did it in an attempt to defy winter. While other say that it is a symbol of Christ that sustains even in winter. All I know is that all of the pastors that I have sat under from childhood till now would not allow a tree in the sanctuary only in the vestibule or outside.
 
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Why do you ask me the obvious? If you wish to continue debating this fine with me but this discussion is over, If Christmas is wrong I am sure God will show me soon enough.
He will only shew us if we want to know the truth and not lean on what we have been taught as a child
 
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Why do you ask me the obvious? If you wish to continue debating this fine with me but this discussion is over, If Christmas is wrong I am sure God will show me soon enough.
hmmmm i wonder if it was realy three wise menthat visit jesus hmmmm think think think
 
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Why do you ask me the obvious? If you wish to continue debating this fine with me but this discussion is over, If Christmas is wrong I am sure God will show me soon enough.

oh yeah Blain MERRY CHRISTMAS :rolleyes: now thats sarcasm take care friend
 

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Wide road = majority of people in the world that wonders after the beast hmmmm the whole world celbrates christmas easter halloween etc whyyyyyyy

Straight gate = few in the world that do not celebrate what the majority of the world does and will always be scoff at because they do not follow tradition and the multitude

Revelation 18

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

I will continue following the narrow path while keeping Christmas as I celebrate it to my heart. as I said if Christmas is wrong Jesus will show me
 

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Christmas whaaa? It ain't even All Saints Day or Thanksgiving yet.!
 
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hmmmm i wonder if it was realy three wise menthat visit jesus hmmmm think think think
It was three Magi and a host of servants and it was about two years after His birth. Herod killed all makes under two years old. Man folks need to read with understanding.

The Magi were not magicians they were wise men of babylon that studied the writings of the prophet Daniel. How else would they have known about the star.. Read folks read.
 
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I will continue following the narrow path while keeping Christmas as I celebrate it to my heart. as I said if Christmas is wrong Jesus will show me

hope you have eyes to see when He does shew you cooooooolllllllllllllllllllll
 
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Couldn't do that either whats up Mods?
 
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It was three Magi and a host of servants and it was about two years after His birth. Herod killed all makes under two years old. Man folks need to read with understanding.

The Magi were not magicians they were wise men of babylon that studied the writings of the prophet Daniel. How else would they have known about the star.. Read folks read.

Most churches today teach that there were three wise men who came to see Baby Jesus in the manger shortly after his miraculous birth. They sing the song "We three kings" amongst other songs or poems which proclaim that three wise men came to see Baby Jesus.
But is this really what the Bible teaches? Were there really only three, and did they come to the manger to worship Baby Jesus?
To be honest, the Bible supports no such teaching at all. It was the shepherds who came to the manger the same night that Jesus was born. The Bible does not say, but the wise men most likely did not visit Jesus 1-2 years after he was born;

The story is found in Matthew 2:1-12, and there is no mention as to how many there were. It simply says that they came and brought three gifts. It is possible that because they brought three gifts, that this could be one of the reasons why it is being taught that there were three.
But that is an unreasonable theory because there could have been as many as 10 wise men who all brought a gift of gold, or 10 who brought gifts of myrrh, and 10 who brought frankincense. The statement in the Bible is true no matter how many there were, because there really were only 3 gifts.



 
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KohenMatt

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1. I am sure we do not know what day it is. We do not even celebrate our presidents birthday on the correct day anymore. It is just honoring them. As we Honor Christ.
2. Yes, As often as I can, Do often in remembrance of me.
Why would we?

Those fiests have been fulfilled. God had a reason for having them done, and their purpose is complete.
So, we can take a holiday that was created by pagans to worship pagan gods, that was never mentioned in the Bible or instructed God's people to celebrate, and redeem it for God by celebrating Jesus' birth on a day that probably isn't anywhere close to being His birthday, and claim it's honoring to God.

BUT....

We can't take holidays created by God that are mentioned frequently in the Bible that instruct God's people to celebrate, and that celebrate so many different facets of our God because it is dishonoring to God?

God wants us to worship in a different way now. As he says in Hebrews. there was the old way, and there is the new way.
Seems more accurate to say, "there was the old way, and there is the new way",

and then there's our own way.