the christmass tree

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SirLucan

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once i was doing a study on idolatry and i heard a voice clear as day that said remove that tree from your house it is idolatry to me , i listened and it was from then on i dont allow a christmass tree in my house i feel not to disobey God and the reason for this post is to see the views that anyone may have towards this or has anyone had an experience such as this
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Also, I did hear a voice one time during Christmas. But it said, "Tell your family and friends to buy you lots and lots of gifts and they shall be blessed if they do."
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
Funny you should mention that. The origin of a flower bouquet(that I am sure almost EVERYONE has had in their home) was brought over by Japan by Buddhist monks where certain flowers are considered sacred..... That ain't Christian either.
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I smell roses!
 
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directline2iam said:
2 Tim 3:15and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;17so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
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So every verse in the Bible where someone does something, we can and even should do that too?
 
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Can one glorify God in vain ?

Matthew 7
[SUP]15[/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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You shouldn't be so hard on yourself!
 
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Apostol2013 said:
once i was doing a study on idolatry and i heard a voice clear as day that said remove that tree from your house it is idolatry to me , i listened and it was from then on i dont allow a christmass tree in my house i feel not to disobey God and the reason for this post is to see the views that anyone may have towards this or has anyone had an experience such as this
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Apostol2013,
I told you that was me talking to you. I've changed my mind. You can bring the tree in. Just unplug the lights at night and also when you leave the house.
 
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SirLucan

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Apostol2013 said:
once i was doing a study on idolatry and i heard a voice clear as day that said remove that tree from your house it is idolatry to me , i listened and it was from then on i dont allow a christmass tree in my house i feel not to disobey God and the reason for this post is to see the views that anyone may have towards this or has anyone had an experience such as this
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Apostol2013

I hear the Easter Bunny!
 
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KohenMatt said:
We've got to be careful with that line of thinking. If God didn't command that I don't do something, am I allowed to do it?

Can I go train pit bulls for dog fighting and make money on it? (and just to make it more spiritual, I'll give the proceeds to the needy.)
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Think hard about what you just typed cause God does say not to do that in His commandments. You just have to have a deeper understanding of His commandments to see it. I may do ALL things that Honor God and that includes a Christmas tree.
 
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Apostol2013 said:
once i was doing a study on idolatry and i heard a voice clear as day that said remove that tree from your house it is idolatry to me , i listened and it was from then on i dont allow a christmass tree in my house i feel not to disobey God and the reason for this post is to see the views that anyone may have towards this or has anyone had an experience such as this
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This is too much. I love it. Apostol2013 I award thee $10,000 ducats. This is great. I'm busting up.
 
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KohenMatt said:
So every verse in the Bible where someone does something, we can and even should do that too?
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We are to do what is right and since the three wise men celebrated and the babe in the womb John the Baptist celebrated are we not also given the scriptures to follow suit? something wrong with your beliefs not to believe and act accordingly to the teachings of scripture.
 
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directline2iam said:
We are to do what is right and since the three wise men celebrated and the babe in the womb John the Baptist celebrated are we not also given the scriptures to follow suit? something wrong with your beliefs not to believe and act accordingly to the teachings of scripture.
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Direct, how do you know there were three wise men? Double check.
 
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directline2iam said:
Think hard about what you just typed cause God does say not to do that in His commandments. You just have to have a deeper understanding of His commandments to see it. I may do ALL things that Honor God and that includes a Christmas tree.
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Really? I was trying really hard to find something that was bad, that wasn't addressed in the Bible. Where's the scripture on that, so I know not to use that in future debates?
 
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directline2iam said:
We are to do what is right and since the three wise men celebrated and the babe in the womb John the Baptist celebrated are we not also given the scriptures to follow suit? something wrong with your beliefs not to believe and act accordingly to the teachings of scripture.
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Can all believers celebrate the Biblical Feast days?
 
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Apostol2013 said:
actualy i know Gods voice i have prophecied acurately through christ and has come true i have verifiable witneses but to the point i fear God i dont look to disobey
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Apostol, share with me the prophecy. I wants to know what it was. Was it about Christmas?
 
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KohenMatt said:
Really? I was trying really hard to find something that was bad, that wasn't addressed in the Bible. Where's the scripture on that, so I know not to use that in future debates?
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Where is the scripture on what?
 
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I'm waiting........... where in the NT does it say Christians can't have a Christ mass tree? Because the OT has nothing to do with it AT ALL....
 
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If you want to celebrate Christmas - or the Easter Bunny - or Halloween - then celebrate it. If you don't want to, then don't.
Jesus isn't going to say - "You celebrated Halloween, so off to Hell you go".

However, in the U.S., a Christmas tree doesn't belong on government property and an American flag doesn't belong in church.
 
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directline2iam said:
Why don't you start a non derailing thread on that and answer the statements in your foolish defense on this thread?
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Easy there, turbo. I'm not derailing anything. The thread is about Christmas trees, and whether they're ok. I'm saying that because there is no command or instruction about celebrating Christmas, it's not important to God. You said that because the Scripture doesn't "not" say to celebrate it, it's ok. By that same line of thinking, I maintain that since God doesn't "not" say to celebrate the Biblical Feast days, its just as acceptable, if not moreso, to celebrate those. Because those are actually in the Bible. But those Feasts in particular have been addressed in other threads, so I don't want to go there here.

And in regards to the scripture reference.....
I made a comment about the Bible not saying that dog fighting was bad. Thus, it was OK to do it (by your line of reasoning just before my comment).

Then you said in post #67 "Think hard about what you just typed cause God does say not to do that in His commandments." I was asking where the scripture was. And then I made a somewhat silly remark.

Regardless, relax.
 
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If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?--Matt. 12:26

Satan is not behind the modern celebration of Christmas. This holiday is the reason for one of the highest ranking days of church attendance, the nativities on lawns, the church plays, the charitable giving, acts of kindness....

Trust me, I believe in prophetic voices, but discernment tells us that attempts to rid society of the Christmas holiday are Satan's attempts to destroy the joy Christ brought in this world with His birth. God bless!
 
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KohenMatt said:
Easy there, turbo. I'm not derailing anything. The thread is about Christmas trees, and whether they're ok. I'm saying that because there is no command or instruction about celebrating Christmas, it's not important to God. You said that because the Scripture doesn't "not" say to celebrate it, it's ok. By that same line of thinking, I maintain that since God doesn't "not" say to celebrate the Biblical Feast days, its just as acceptable, if not moreso, to celebrate those. Because those are actually in the Bible. But those Feasts in particular have been addressed in other threads, so I don't want to go there here.

And in regards to the scripture reference.....
I made a comment about the Bible not saying that dog fighting was bad. Thus, it was OK to do it (by your line of reasoning just before my comment).

Then you said in post #67 "Think hard about what you just typed cause God does say not to do that in His commandments." I was asking where the scripture was. And then I made a somewhat silly remark.

Regardless, relax.
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I am relaxed, I just showed you two separate scriptures that showed human beings celebrating the soon coming birth of Christ and we should also celebrate according to that scripture as these scriptures are there for us to learn from. So it is definitely biblical to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ our Lord.
 
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