the christmass tree

[KohenMatt]

I am relaxed, I just showed you two separate scriptures that showed human beings celebrating the soon coming birth of Christ and we should also celebrate according to that scripture as these scriptures are there for us to learn from. So it is definitely biblical to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ our Lord.

And I respect that opinion. 2 questions, though.
1) When do you celebrate Jesus' birth? December 25th, or a more accurate day?
2) By your rationale, do you celebrate Passover as well?

 

[directline2iam]

If you want to celebrate Christmas - or the Easter Bunny - or Halloween - then celebrate it. If you don't want to, then don't.
Jesus isn't going to say - "You celebrated Halloween, so off to Hell you go".

However, in the U.S., a Christmas tree doesn't belong on government property and an American flag doesn't belong in church.

A Christmas tree does belong on government property as the government property belongs to the people and The American Patriotic Flag certainly belongs in Gods temples.

Apparently you don't even understand what that Red White and Blue Flag stands for. Literally FREEDOM to worship God.

 

[Isdaniel]

[video=youtube;vpQt4LlWqPQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vpQt4LlWqPQ#t=19[/video]

 

[Huckleberry]

whoever thinks its ok to celebrate pagan holidays after knowing their truth can not judge simple life matters...

Christmas is not a pagan holiday.
Whatever it used to be, whatever its origins are, it has changed from that.
It's a Christian Holy Day now. We claim it as ours.
Get over yourself already.

 

[Graybeard]

This will be the first Christmas that I will not be celebrating....till I'm 100 percent sure of my convictions.

 

[Isdaniel]

Christmas is not a pagan holiday.
Whatever it used to be, whatever its origins are, it has changed from that.
It's a Christian Holy Day now. We claim it as ours.
Get over yourself already.

you can take a pig dress it up and it will still be a pig and thats christmas

 

[Isdaniel]

Christmas is not a pagan holiday.
Whatever it used to be, whatever its origins are, it has changed from that.
It's a Christian Holy Day now. We claim it as ours.
Get over yourself already.

Well you should claim Halloween also while you all are at it and say it is glorifyining God hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Blain]

Christmas is no more against God than I am, Christmas is a happy time and a wonderful season. I always am so full of happiness in December because everyone is full of the Christmas spirit.

 

[Isdaniel]

Christmas is no more against God than I am, Christmas is a happy time and a wonderful season. I always am so full of happiness in December because everyone is full of the Christmas spirit.

Is this the christmas star or the five poit star of baphomet

 

[Blain]

Is this the christmas star or not

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Nope it's not, if you will notice the satanic stars are upside down. Plus not everyone uses stars on top their trees, many put Santa or a cute angel on there.

 

[Isdaniel]

Nope it's not, if you will notice the satanic stars are upside down. Plus not everyone uses stars on top their trees, many put Santa or a cute angel on there.

orrrrr you mean satan claus sorr it santa

 

[Isdaniel]

why did not the disciple celebrate chritmas ? did they forget to tell us

 

[Blain]

why did not the disciple celebrate chritmas ? did they forget to tell us

So let me get this straight. if people in the bible did not do something we should not either? I don't care if the disciples celebrated it or not, they also did not use paper for money or use cars or have internet. and satanclause? c'mon you can do better than that, that is no where near the same word and santa is a person full of love joy and kindness. Oh yes, satan clause fits perfectly lol

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And I respect that opinion. 2 questions, though.
1) When do you celebrate Jesus' birth? December 25th, or a more accurate day?
2) By your rationale, do you celebrate Passover as well?

1. I am sure we do not know what day it is. We do not even celebrate our presidents birthday on the correct day anymore. It is just honoring them. As we Honor Christ.
2. Yes, As often as I can, Do often in remembrance of me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Can all believers celebrate the Biblical Feast days?

Why would we?

Those fiests have been fulfilled. God had a reason for having them done, and their purpose is complete.

God wants us to worship in a different way now. As he says in Hebrews. there was the old way, and there is the new way.

 

[Isdaniel]

Before you react too quickly, please take the time to read this comparison between the Biblical teachings about Jesus Christ and the mythical teachings of Santa Claus. Many, many Christian pastors have lamented the fact that Santa Claus has replaced Jesus Christ in the hearts and minds of too many children and adults in America today. When you read this comparison, you will understand that this replacement in the hearts and minds of Americans is not by accident. You will be able to see Satan, the Master Marionette, pulling the strings above the world, leading adults and children alike away from Jesus Christ and toward Santa Claus, who is the epitome' of the love of the world and everything that is in it.

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[TH="align: center"]JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN[/TH]
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[TD]1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14)[/TD]
[TD]1. Has white hair like wool[/TD]
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[TD]2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6)[/TD]
[TD]2. Has a beard[/TD]
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[TD]3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2)[/TD]
[TD]3. Comes in red apparel[/TD]
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[TD]4. Hour of His coming is a mystery(Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33)[/TD]
[TD]4. Hour of his coming is a mystery[/TD]
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[TD]5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2)[/TD]
[TD]5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole[/TD]
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[TD]6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3)[/TD]
[TD]6. Is a toy carpenter[/TD]
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[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night(Matthew 24:43-44)[/TD]
[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.[/TD]
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[TD]8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6)[/TD]
[TD]8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night[/TD]
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[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20)[/TD]
[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year[/TD]
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[TD]10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13)[/TD]
[TD]10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.[/TD]
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[TD]11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6)[/TD]
[TD]11. Lives forever[/TD]
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[TD]12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17)[/TD]
[TD]12. Lives in the hearts of children[/TD]
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[TD]13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8)[/TD]
[TD]13. Giver of Gifts[/TD]
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[TD]14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6)[/TD]
[TD]14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7;2 Tim 4:4)[/TD]
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[TD]15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]15. Sits on a throne[/TD]
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[TD]16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16)[/TD]
[TD]16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want[/TD]
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[TD]17. Commands children to obey parents[/TD]
[TD]17. Tells children to obey parents[/TD]
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[TD]18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14)[/TD]
[TD]18. Bids children to come unto him[/TD]
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[TD]19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2)[/TD]
[TD]19. Judges whether you were good or bad[/TD]
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[TD]20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2)[/TD]
[TD]20. Father Christmas[/TD]
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[TD]21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12)[/TD]
[TD]21. Kris Kringle (means christ child)[/TD]
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[TD]22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev5:14 Hebrews 1:6)[/TD]
[TD]22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children[/TD]
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[TD]23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10)[/TD]
[TD]23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits[/TD]
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[TD]24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6)[/TD]
[TD]24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..."[/TD]
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[TD]25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6;Hebrews 1:3)[/TD]
[TD]25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season[/TD]
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Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals.Santa equals Satan.

Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan.

Santa. As in Santa Claus.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

once i was doing a study on idolatry and i heard a voice clear as day that said remove that tree from your house it is idolatry to me , i listened and it was from then on i dont allow a christmass tree in my house i feel not to disobey God and the reason for this post is to see the views that anyone may have towards this or has anyone had an experience such as this

Christmas and all of its trappings are MAN-made traditions. Is TRADITIONS wrong? Not entirely. They are the glue that binds us to who we are and what we stand for. When I examined Christmas and much of its traditions, I knew for me it was just a man-made tradition and as an ingrafted Israelite that YHWH has HIS FEAST DAYS/HIS APOINTMENTS/HIS CONVOCATIONS AND HE SAID DO NOT ADD TO HIS WORD. IMO His Leviticus 23 is all we all need to see what YHWY wanted us to know about Yah's salvation/Y'shua/Jesus. So for me, observing Yah's appointments is sufficient and Christmas is neither good or bad. Like I said, traditions are not entirely bad but to handle the law lawfully is more important to me personally.

 

[Blain]

Okay Isdaniel you make some Good points, however even if the person who created it did so for the intentions you say he failed because everywhere you go in Christmas time you see people singing Christmas worship to Jesus and santa clause may be very important to children and not God but that is merely because they are very young and cannot understand these things. I don't know about the santa translation thing but if it's true the creator of it epically failed because we worship Jesus on this day, not just the saved either I see it everywhere. God can turn anything into Good, and he sure proved his words true with Christmas.

Plus the entire thing of Christmas is teaching love towards one another, the one day of the year people practice love towards all men, and peace on earth. Now why would satan teach things that go against all he stands for? A kingdom that is against itself cannot stand.( also I have yet to find one person who see's Jesus with white hair. everyone draws it brown)

 

[Isdaniel]

Okay Isdaniel you make some Good points, however even if the person who created it did so for the intentions you say he failed because everywhere you go in Christmas time you see people singing Christmas worship to Jesus and santa clause may be very important to children and not God but that is merely because they are very young and cannot understand these things. I don't know about the santa translation thing but if it's true the creator of it epically failed because we worship Jesus on this day, not just the saved either I see it everywhere. God can turn anything into Good, and he sure proved his words true with Christmas.

Plus the entire thing of Christmas is teaching love towards one another, the one day of the year people practice love towards all men, and peace on earth. Now why would satan teach things that go against all he stands for? A kingdom that is against itself cannot stand.( also I have yet to find one person who see's Jesus with white hair. everyone draws it brown)

[h=3]Revelation 18[/h]King James Version (KJV)

18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.



Who is Babylon the great ?

What is the wine of fornication ?

How did the merchants get rich by her fornication ?

 

[Isdaniel]

Hmmmmm lets see why satan will do that christmas thing

Isaiah 30

8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:
10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.