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[h=3]Ezekiel 28[/h]King James Version (KJV)

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the LordGod; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
 
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Isdaniel said:
Why did God allow the devil to contiue and did not destroy him immediately?
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Because God is the author of all things, He has all of it plan out according to His decision. Everything is created by Him & For Him.

God bless
 
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Did the devil sin in heaven or in the garden of eden first ?
 
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Revelation 4

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
 
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vic1980 said:
Because God is the author of all things, He has all of it plan out according to His decision. Everything is created by Him & For Him.

God bless
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Revelaion 4
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
 
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Isdaniel said:
Did the devil sin in heaven or in the garden of eden first ?
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The Garden of eden location is in paradise so it is heaven. The tree of life never moved when Adam & Eve where booted out of the Garden. Revelation 2:7 I belive.
 
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vic1980 said:
The Garden of eden location is in paradise so it is heaven. The tree of life never moved when Adam & Eve where booted out of the Garden. Revelation 2:7 I belive.
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Ezekiel & John in revelation witness the same stream of water and trees with fruits.
 
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I was told by a religious education teacher (christian) that the garden of Eden is actually on earth but f. One can access it because there are angels guarding it.
 
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Isdaniel said:
Did the devil sin in heaven or in the garden of eden first ?
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UMM In heaven. Secondly He has not been cast out of heaven yet. Look at Job 1-3. Satan is in heaven accusing the brethren at the throne. Yes he walks the the earth but still has access to the throne.
 
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vic1980 said:
Ezekiel & John in revelation witness the same stream of water and trees with fruits.[

was the garden of eden always in heaven ? So Adam and eve were in Heaven ?

Genesis 2
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
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Kerry said:
UMM In heaven. Secondly He has not been cast out of heaven yet. Look at Job 1-3. Satan is in heaven accusing the brethren at the throne. Yes he walks the the earth but still has access to the throne.
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Zechariah 3:1 Then the angel showed me Jeshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD. The Accuser, Satan, was there at the angel's right hand, making accusations against Jeshua.

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vic1980 said:
Ezekiel & John in revelation witness the same stream of water and trees with fruits.
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was the garden of eden always in heaven ? So Adam and eve were in Heaven ?

Genesis 2
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
 
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Isdaniel said:
was the garden of eden always in heaven ? So Adam and eve were in Heaven ?

Genesis 2
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
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If the Garden of Eden on earth why it cannot be located in this day and age, God never destroyed the Garden of Eden, He booted Adam & Eve out of it. Even the Dust of the Ground that man was created from is not from the Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden was not affected by the fall of man. The rest of the Earth was.

God bless
 
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Jesusismyrock said:
I was told by a religious education teacher (christian) that the garden of Eden is actually on earth but f. One can access it because there are angels guarding it.
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I believe the garden of Edn is indeed on the earth the cheuribims are gaurding it. God hid the body of Moses from the devil hmm and the devil has power farless for us humans , there are part of this earth that man has never been .

Genesis 3
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
 
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Do angels walk amongst us ? can you see them ?
 
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If the entire earth was flooded over then how is it the garden isn't destroyed?
 
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vic1980 said:
If the Garden of Eden on earth why it cannot be located in this day and age, God never destroyed the Garden of Eden, He booted Adam & Eve out of it. Even the Dust of the Ground that man was created from is not from the Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden was not affected by the fall of man. The rest of the Earth was.

God bless
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Do angels walk amongst us ? can you see them ? why or why not
 
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