The devil

[homwardbound]

I was told by a religious education teacher (christian) that the garden of Eden is actually on earth but f. One can access it because there are angels guarding it.

True until the time of Christ, and by belief we now today, Spiritually eat from that tree of life daily, those that are born again from God through belief eat or are able to eat from Christ, this tree of life that was blocked off for many a generations, until the cross and it's completion through Christ
Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

 

[homwardbound]

UMM In heaven. Secondly He has not been cast out of heaven yet. Look at Job 1-3. Satan is in heaven accusing the brethren at the throne. Yes he walks the the earth but still has access to the throne.

Only until the time of Christ he had (past tense) access to the throne:
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And now it is just here and in the heavenly realms after Christ, were Christ is preparing the heavenly mansions for his believers
2 Corinthians 10:4 (for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
Hebrews 7:16 who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

 

[homwardbound]

I believe the garden of Edn is indeed on the earth the cheuribims are gaurding it. God hid the body of Moses from the devil hmm and the devil has power farless for us humans , there are part of this earth that man has never been .

Genesis 3
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

And today we have access through the living Christ in the Spirit of God, not flesh, thanks

 

[homwardbound]

Do angels walk amongst us ? can you see them ?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[homwardbound]

If the entire earth was flooded over then how is it the garden isn't destroyed?

God is the miraculous one we are not, we are the creation not the creator and God as shown through Christ can do anything, so the ? is do we believe God, or not?
God preserves any and all things God chooses to, for God is creator of all, thanking God that God is Merciful

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings
Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Just some steak to eat and chew slowly before swallowing, do not desire for anyone to choke on it

 

[homwardbound]

Yes they do and my wife has seen them before, I have had visitations in my dreams.

A big yes

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[homwardbound]

were the fishes detroyed that were ooutside the ark hmmmm just a thought

A good ?, I do not think so, but when I am home in Heaven I will ask God. fish live in water, so I drought they were drowned, and we know the birds were not, and the animals on the Ark were saved, just evil flesh man, was killed
[h=3]Genesis 6:5-8[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. [SUP]6 [/SUP]And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. [SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

 

[homwardbound]

so what happen to the cherubibs hmmm what are they guarding ?

A lot of good ?'s you have that will be answered when we are home at our place of eternity, and all things are done as God desires through God's amazing mercy, and if we knew all things now, what would that do to Faith, (belief) trust in the living God. personally I would rather be humbled and not proud or boastful as to even think I know some of the answers to these ?'s of yours, although good ?'s, thanks

 

[homwardbound]

so what happen to the cherubibs hmmm what are they guarding ?

Answer the guarding is now over, for Christ did the work he was called to do and did. Now the Children of God through belief can, are able to eat off of the tree of life. To those God has accepted in God, by belief in God, through the Son
There is a reason why God will have:
Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion
Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth

God knows who are real and who are fakes and so God will have Mercy on whom God will have Mercy, and if one's heart of stone wants to change to be with God for no gain of his own as Lucifer had, has, then God will accept that one in him, and that one will know the truth that sets them free, by god giving that one a heart transplant to a heart of flesh that has no sin in it

 

[homwardbound]

When the fall of man occur in the Garden of Eden ,it seems that the river that was watering the Garden of Eden was perfection. When God removed them from the Garden of Eden, curse was the ground (dust) on earth that they where made from. This river in Genesis 2:10 was cut off from the world in order that curruption (the curse) take it toll on the earth and everything living in it. sickness death etc.

Ezekiel 47

And he said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, and enters the sea;[SUP]b[/SUP] when the water flows into the sea, the water will become fresh.[SUP]c[/SUP]9And wherever the river goes,[SUP]d[/SUP] every living creature that swarms will live, and there will be very many fish. For this water goes there, that the waters of the sea[SUP]e[/SUP] may become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes.

As for your question, i will get back to it tommorow if Possible God Bless

Thanks, I just saw in your post, wherever that river went, life came and comes through Christ, So wherever Christ is that river flows, so much comes together, drink of his water and never thirst again. Throw out your nets, and multitudes of fish were brought in, Thanks
In God all our needs are taken care of period, not our lusts, pride, or haughtiness of the flesh self desire to create, for all things are already done by and through God. So can we thus whistle while we work and act our wages rather than our IQ's.? and be at rest and content in where we are at here on earth, trusting God 100% all the time, even in adversities

 

[homwardbound]

devil is created by God for a purpose. Paul says

1C 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The salvation of the spirit of the sinner is attained only through the destruction of the flesh, and for that the devil is required...to destroy the flesh.

To be in the image of God, it is very important to know what is good and evil, having the capacity to differentiate between good and evil...for that we have to know and experience both good and evil. devil is used in this process for us to know the evil.

Thanks, a B-E-A-U-tiful answer

 

[homwardbound]

did the devil had time to repent ? Why or Why not

All I now I do not have to fear him, why?

John 16:11 of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged

One's flesh as of yet still to be judged, and those of the flesh by choice shall be burned up. The flesh is what today is in the way. So either one by free choice is of the flesh or are born again of God by God a free gift through the Son, if one decides to believe God over their own flesh selfish desires.

 

[vic1980]

Will this be on the new earth or in heaven ?

This is something to ponder on indeed.

Ezekiel clearly was given the vision there was still a sea when this river merge with the ocean.

Ezekiel 47:8 And he said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, and enters the sea;[SUP]b[/SUP] when the water flows into the sea, the water will become fresh.

John in Revelation gives us a diffrent discription on these events, there is no sea.

Revelation 21

The New Heaven and Earth

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea

Revelation 22 The River and the Tree of Life

1Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,2in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.3There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;4they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.5And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.

The Final Message

Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city.15Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.



I have notice by reading Revelation, this water Does not go forth into the new earth created by God,.The only way to access this water of Life, and the tree of life, and its 12 fruits and leaves that heal. Are those who are bless, and may enter by the Gates into the city (New Jerusalem) which are the rightous and holy in Christ.

Perhaps Ezekiel, takes place for the 1000 years with Christ ?

Revelation gives us the end of the matter, on all events.

How will this play out, i guess praying and asking for wisdom will come in handy at this moment brother
By reading both ezekiel and Revelation, they have simularities but also show diffrences ,on how the events take place.

Ezekiel theres a ocean.

Revelation there is no ocean .

God bless

 

[leo1]

didja catch where the ark of the covenant is?Ez/10thru13