The Doctrinal Belief of a Pre-Tribulation Resurrection. Is not spoken of in the Word of God. It was created by a sick and deranged woman

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You really do need to go back to kindergarten and start learning some comprehension!
The verse you quote does not say the lifespan will be 100 years but says some will not live that long while others having been raised will not see a second death.
You have fallen into Satan's trap of taking verses out of context: IESEGESIS.
I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

Here in UK we have trees 1,000 years old and in USA a bristlecone pine seems to have survived The Flood 4,350 years ago!. Even teh fig tree Jesus cursed for barrenness could have lived 200 years. UK's moist and mild climate is probably as close to that of Eden as anywhere else on Earth which ensures trees grow on to great ages during which time they provide homes and food for the myriads of creatures GOD created on Days 5 and 6 of Creation 6,000 years ago.
https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/blog/2018/06/the-oldest-tree-in-the-uk-how-long-do-trees-live/
In order to rightly divide you must compare the things seen the temporal to the things not seen the ETERNAL in order to receive what you called: (I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:)

You will not find that understanding by counting growth rings on a tree.

2 Corinthians 5:7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
 
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How would you know if a person is speaking in what is called tongues today?
they be jabbering - we be speaking English.
It's the flow of sounds.
Have a listen to Ken Hagin or Ken Copleland. Copeland was praying for Christians to joing the devilworshipping pagan Catholics!
 
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I highly recommend purchasing the video American Gospel
The gospel is for sale? I thought it was free. "Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost." (Isaiah 55:1)
 
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In order to rightly divide you must compare the things seen the temporal to the things not seen the ETERNAL in order to receive what you called: (I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:)

You will not find that understanding by counting growth rings on a tree.

2 Corinthians 5:7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
I can divide low numbers in my head but for larger ones I use a calculator.
With plenty of knowledge and Bibel study I can DIVINE lies and nonsense.
Trees can grow more than one ring per year - it's a tree thing.
Are you trying to say something?
 
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The gospel is for sale? I thought it was free. "Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost." (Isaiah 55:1)
Descending into senility John?
 
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"For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say." (1cor14:3) We should pray for the gift of interpretation, then we will know what people are saying. They maybe saying: God forgive me, I am a miserable sinner. Wash and cleanse me in the Blood of Jesus so I can be pure before you.

Is not the gift of interpretation the hearing of faith, the unseen eternal.

Like in many cases it would seem you avoid the foundation of the doctrine of tongue found in Isaiah 28 .The same law re-visited and expanded in 1 Corinthians 14:21-22.

I would suggest first things first. Once the law of interpretation is understood then the rest of the doctrine falls into place.

The law as it is written .The must.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
 
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Descending into senility John?
We have the mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. I was in a church the pastor preached for three years on the mind of Christ. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil 2:5)
 
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I can divide low numbers in my head but for larger ones I use a calculator.
With plenty of knowledge and Bibel study I can DIVINE lies and nonsense.
Trees can grow more than one ring per year - it's a tree thing.
Are you trying to say something?
I thanks for the reply.

I was asking in response to what you quoted "I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:"

Following what verses?

What makes you think you can and others cannot? Where are the verses that show that kind of reasoning tool for hearing God not seen.?

Why would we trust your EXEGESIS above that of another or any person seen and call that seeking the approval of God? He has given us tools. Where is your EXEGESIS tool found?
 
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We have the mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. I was in a church the pastor preached for three years on the mind of Christ. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil 2:5)
That's a great verse.How did he say we can perform that loving commandment? "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
 
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You should pray for the gift of interpretation so you know what you are talking about.
you certainly should. Jews just cannot see their doom approaching.
 
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I thanks for the reply.

I was asking in response to what you quoted "I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:"

Following what verses?

What makes you think you can and others cannot? Where are the verses that show that kind of reasoning tool for hearing God not seen.?

Why would we trust your EXEGESIS above that of another or any person seen and call that seeking the approval of God? He has given us tools. Where is your EXEGESIS tool found?
Go read through the posts and check the verses quoted.
In teh instance referred to my EXEGESIS trumps the others EISEGESIS.
It's a difficult concept to grasp.
The best example is so many of you claim the thief on the cross would be with jesus immediately both died.
 

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they be jabbering - we be speaking English.
It's the flow of sounds.
Have a listen to Ken Hagin or Ken Copleland. Copeland was praying for Christians to joing the devilworshipping pagan Catholics!
So Kenneth pray to the Lord of darkness ?

He pray to the devil?
 
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The same thing is true regarding the modern expression of "speaking in tongues". It came from some nutty young woman named Agnes Osman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Ozman

Charismatics are just full of nuttiness...and people have vain imaginations that are conjuring up things all the time. I believe it takes years to work this out of the lives of some true believers, by the way. Unsaved man's mind is full of vanity, pride, and self-exaltation, and claiming some spiritual gift or office is a manifestation of this. Some individuals naturally gravitate toward thinking that God speaks to them more closely than others, and they hear from God much better than others.
This thread has disentigrated into hatred of the brethren.
(The essau spirit. Hates the power)
I will never forget the day I received the baptism in the Holy Spirit during the charismatic movement.

Men ceased going after God.
God has not ceased. Jesus is the same . Same Jesus .Same Holy Spirit.

What's missing is men,not power.

Those with a so so walk and choke hold on God get their so so anointing and power.

Only David could say to the giant "you got the feeding to birds correct...but it is you they will feast on"

The others could not sit up to the same table as David.
The difference is the anointing.

But men are so wise. They admit their powerless walk and like David's mockers they hide and point at those stepping out and accepting Samuel's full horn of anointing...the full horn.

You may want to take a look. Saul got a small vial of oil.
David received the full horn as did paul,the apostles and those that were hungry in the upper room.
No hunger....no anointing.

I am still hungry.
 
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Lots of people have seen Heaven. I have had dreams and visions of Heaven.
The postrib doctrine says they rise up to the clouds and meet JESUS there. Then the u turn back to earth.

They never "see" heaven (never go there)

It is amazing the corner they have painted themselves into.

They claim "noah never left so we never leave" then they claim as with noah we leave postrib/post flood.

Huh? Noah is the example? Never leave and yet leave post flood??

Oooppps. "As in the days of noah BEFORE THE FLOOD.
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Noah CAME BACK to earth post flood,post trib.

How do we do that?
We never leave...but go through the gt.

We leave but do a uturn after the judgement.?

But no verses support it,and Jesus was mistaken?
 
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So Kenneth pray to the Lord of darkness ?

He pray to the devil?
When the religiously correct accused Jesus of operating and partnering with the devil,Jesus invoked the unpardonable sin on their heads.

When we ascribe devils and demons to Gods people that step out and operate in the Holy Spirit,we give our hearts to the devil.

Chilling what they do.
Scary.
 
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The postrib doctrine says they rise up to the clouds and meet JESUS there. Then the u turn back to earth.

They never "see" heaven (never go there)

It is amazing the corner they have painted themselves into.

They claim "noah never left so we never leave" then they claim as with noah we leave postrib/post flood.

Huh? Noah is the example? Never leave and yet leave post flood??

Oooppps. "As in the days of noah BEFORE THE FLOOD.
.."

Noah CAME BACK to earth post flood,post trib.

How do we do that?
We never leave...but go through the gt.

We leave but do a uturn after the judgement.?

But no verses support it,and Jesus was mistaken?
No humans have gone to heaven.
Jesus said so and I think he would know best.
 
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You should pray for the gift of interpretation so you know what you are talking about.
when you went to heaven as you claim did you see a holy spook flitting about in a big white sheet ?