The Doctrine of Hell: Under Attack

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CherieR

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The fear of hell can lead some to Jesus. For other people, that is not enough. They need to be taught the love of Jesus and/or be shown the love of Jesus.
 
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The fear of hell can lead some to Jesus. For other people, that is not enough. They need to be taught the love of Jesus and/or be shown the love of Jesus.
Funny how some of you go directly against what the Bible teaches here....Where does it say in the Bible that the Holy Spirit uses fear of hell to lead someone to repentance?!
 

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The fear of hell can lead some to Jesus. For other people, that is not enough. They need to be taught the love of Jesus and/or be shown the love of Jesus.
You are quite right. "The love of Christ constraineth us". As long as preachers do not whitewash the doctrine of Hell, there should be a proper balance between the grace of God for repentant sinners and the wrath of God against unrepentant sinners.
 

Nehemiah6

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Funny how some of you go directly against what the Bible teaches here....Where does it say in the Bible that the Holy Spirit uses fear of hell to lead someone to repentance?!
Well that is certainly included in these words of Christ (Like 12:1-5):

1In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
 
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You are quite right. "The love of Christ constraineth us". As long as preachers do not whitewash the doctrine of Hell, there should be a proper balance between the grace of God for repentant sinners and the wrath of God against unrepentant sinners.
Again and one more time...How does teaching and reteaching Hell edify a spiritually mature saint....that understands they are not going to hell....

I find only those deceived into believing dispensation and secret "rapture theologies" feel compelled to remind people where they could go....saints who know that the Spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are children of God and joint heirs do not need to be reminded of place they are not going.....only spiritually immature preachers without better things to preach feel compelled to consistently teach and preach to saints where they are not going....
 
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Funny how some of you go directly against what the Bible teaches here....Where does it say in the Bible that the Holy Spirit uses fear of hell to lead someone to repentance?!
Why do you interpret warnings as fear? God forewarned his people many times throughout scripture for their safety. The scriptures even forewarns not to take the the mark of the beast otherwise you will be condemned to hell. That is alerting people and giving them wisdom of what to look out for
 
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Why do you interpret warnings as fear? God forewarned his people many times throughout scripture for their safety. The scriptures even forewarns not to take the the mark of the beast otherwise you will be condemned to hell. That is alerting people and giving them wisdom what to look out for

You were not alive during the rabid hell scaring days of the 70's were you?
 

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Just waiting for a full frontal from Lydia a poster of purple....:p
 
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You were not alive during the rabid hell scaring days of the 70's were you?
Why does it matter? You are still misinterpreting warnings as fear which is your choice. Perhaps your the type who would rather not be forewarned and suffer the consequences.
 

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Again and one more time...How does teaching and reteaching Hell edify a spiritually mature saint....that understands they are not going to hell....
You seem to be forgetting that there are more visitors and guests on this forum than members or saints. So the doctrine of Hell is for all, and is a necessary part of Bible truth. If there were no Hell there would be no need for the Gospel either, since Jesus said "except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish". If you wish to ignore this thread that is your choice.
 
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You seem to be forgetting that there are more visitors and guests on this forum than members or saints. So the doctrine of Hell is for all, and is a necessary part of Bible truth. If there were no Hell there would be no need for the Gospel either, since Jesus said "except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish". If you wish to ignore this thread that is your choice.
posting in bolded fonts is nothing more than yelling....come to full age...if you want a platform and microphone for visitors and guests.....get a church.....

Nobody debates it is a Biblical truth.....
 
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Why does it matter? You are still misinterpreting warnings as fear which is your choice. Perhaps your the type who would rather not be forewarned and suffer the consequences.
How can I suffer the consequences of something that does not affect me.....

To be absent of my body is to be with the Lord, not the fear of a place I am not headed to....

You want to continue to play or do you also want to come to full age?
 
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How can I suffer the consequences of something that does not affect me..... To be absent of my body is to be with the Lord, not the fear of a place I am not headed to.... You want to continue to play or do you also want to come to full age?
You keep repeating "come to full age" yet you cant even comprehend the difference of forewarning people and inducing fear. There are lost people who needs to hear the gospel including the consequences of Hell that's not being preached. You really sound like one of those type of people that only care for their own salvation. Which im sure is unfortunate in the lords eyes.
 
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You keep repeating "come to full age" yet you cant even comprehend the difference of forewarning people and inducing fear. There are lost people who needs to hear the gospel including the consequences of Hell that's not being preached. You really sound like one of those type of people that only care for their own salvation. Which im sure is unfortunate in the lords eyes.

Why does a spiritual mature saint in the Lord need a forewarning of something that will never impact them...4th time I have now asked....

I care enough about other people salvation I leave the true conviction of sin up to the Holy Spirit, who can do it far better than some flesh filled emotionally controlled fanatic huffing and puffing and sweating all over the place ranting about hell....
 
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Why does a spiritual mature saint in the Lord need a forewarning of something that will never impact them...4th time I have now asked.... I care enough about other people salvation I leave the true conviction of sin up to the Holy Spirit, who can do it far better than some flesh filled emotionally controlled fanatic huffing and puffing and sweating all over the place ranting about hell....
Dude if you know about hell good, there are people who may not know much about it or the gospel. New people come to christ daily and we are to tell them the full gospel, hell included. We are to reach the lost in which by the sounds of it one can assume its something you probably don't do. Just sit in a corner with your salvation while the rest of the world is going down the path to destruction.
 

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God said death was the wages of sin. That is the price Jesus paid on our behalf :)

There is nothing in the Bible to suggest that man or the soul of man is immortal aside from the life that is found through faith in the shed blood of Jesus upon the cross, where Christ paid the price for sin, which is death. In fact, Scripture explicitly says that man is mortal and puts on immortality only through Christ. Scripture also explicitly says that only God is immortal, and that He can destroy both body and soul. Over and over and over again we are told that the soul that sins shall die. The dead know nothing. Anyone not found in Jesus Christ at the end of this age passes into the second death. These things are all explicitly stated, clearly said, and yet people deny them.

The word gospel means good news. What is under attack is the nature and character of God. People promote the lie at the heart of the fall of all creation (ye shall not surely die) and believe they are promoting the truth.
 

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Again and one more time...How does teaching and reteaching Hell edify a spiritually mature saint....that understands they are not going to hell....

I find only those deceived into believing dispensation and secret "rapture theologies" feel compelled to remind people where they could go....saints who know that the Spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are children of God and joint heirs do not need to be reminded of place they are not going.....only spiritually immature preachers without better things to preach feel compelled to consistently teach and preach to saints where they are not going....
Greetings Meggido,

Jesus told his disciples and therefore, all believers, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." - Matt.10:28

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom and therefore, every believer should fear God, knowing what they have been saved from, if they continue in faith. Everyone who comes into the is world, once they come to the age of accountability, which only God knows, are on their way to condemning judgment, guaranteed. The only way to get off of that road is by having faith in Christ as the One who paid the penalty for sins and rose from the dead. Those without Christ are guaranteed condemning judgment, for all sin must be accounted for. Either Christ was held accountable for an individuals sins or the individual will be held accountable.

Condemning judgment in the lake of fire, is what Jesus came to save all people from. And as Nehemiah6 mentioned, those who are not in Christ need to hear what their current status is without Christ and where it leads to.
 
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Dude if you know about hell good, there are people who may not know much about it or the gospel. New people come to christ daily and we are to tell them the full gospel, hell included. We are to reach the lost in which by the sounds of it one can assume its something you probably don't do. Just sit in a corner with your salvation while the rest of the world is going down the path to destruction.
The question made your religious head explode so bad it resulted in you making attacks on someones character, assuming they do not know the Word, and conjectures about ones ministry and the fruit is has bared you know nothing about....

Pity your mouth erases any anointing you seem you have....
 
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Greetings Meggido,

Jesus told his disciples and therefore, all believers, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." - Matt.10:28

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom and therefore, every believer should fear God, knowing what they have been saved from, if they continue in faith. Everyone who comes into the is world, once they come to the age of accountability, which only God knows, are on their way to condemning judgment, guaranteed. The only way to get off of that road is by having faith in Christ as the One who paid the penalty for sins and rose from the dead. Those without Christ are guaranteed condemning judgment, for all sin must be accounted for. Either Christ was held accountable for an individuals sins or the individual will be held accountable.

Condemning judgment in the lake of fire, is what Jesus came to save all people from. And as Nehemiah6 mentioned, those who are not in Christ need to hear what their current status is without Christ and where it leads to.
And now the crown prince of false rapture teaching assumes I have no clue what the Fear of the Lord is....
 

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Dude if you know about hell good, there are people who may not know much about it or the gospel. New people come to christ daily and we are to tell them the full gospel, hell included. We are to reach the lost in which by the sounds of it one can assume its something you probably don't do. Just sit in a corner with your salvation while the rest of the world is going down the path to destruction.
Agreed that Hell is included. But WHAT is Hell. It is a place of punishment, It is a place of destruction, But for humans it is never said to be a place of eternal torment. That is Roman Catholic doctrine, not Scriptural doctrine

Punished with few stripes(Luke 12) does not sound like eternal torment.

God will DESTROY both body and soul in Hell,