FreeGrace2 said:
1 Cor 15:23 says that "those who belong to Him" will be resurrected "when He comes". So no one has a "choice" as you assume.
The Bible doesn't teach that. So you must have made that up.
These questions have been answered perhaps a million times by now in forum threads.
So-called "answered". Big difference.
You have not believed even one answer.
Right. Because they are NOT answers. They are responses only.
WHERE did Jesus go to build homes for us? On earth? Hardly!
Oh, how tired. John 14:1-6 has NOTHING to do with rapture. Jesus hadn't died YET when He told His 11 saved disciples that. He was assuring them that they would be IN heaven when they died. He was giving them a lesson on eternal security.
After Jesus' crucifixion, He DID ascend to heaven. So His words have ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED. And EVERY one of the 11 disciples ARE NOW IN HEAVEN, in the rooms (mansions) He already prepared for them.
WHERE will Jesus be while Revelation chapters 8-16 are taking place? Of course, in heaven. Rev. 19 proves that.
Of course.
True, the rapture will certainly happen the NEXT coming, which will be His second time to come - but He will come ONLY to the air: no touch down.
You are ignoring all that the Bible teaches. It speaks of resurrection of the saved in the SINGULAR. There are not more than 1 resurrection of the saved. There is also A resurrection of the unsaved. Acts 24:15 proves this.
Since Rev 20:5 plainly tells us that the resurrection of Trib martyrs is the FIRST resurrection, this proves that the resurrection, which includes the so-called rapture, occurs at the Second Advent.
And 2 Thess 2:1 actually says so. " Concerning
the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and
our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,"
It says prōtos resurrection. You only assume "first" is the best translation.
Wrong. No assumption. Acts 24:15 SAYS there is a resurrection for the saved and a resurrection for the unsaved. And Matt 22:13, Luke 14:14 ns 1 Cor 15:23 all show a singular resurrection. So I am believing what the Bible SAYS, no assumptions.
Since Jesus' resurrection was really the "first" as in sequence, then "first" is not the right translation for this Greek work.
This is nonsense. 1 Cor 15:23 properly explains it. Jesus' resurrection is called "firstfruits" since he was the first to receive a glorified body. Then, the verse tells us PLAINLY that "when He comes, the, those who belong to Him". That is a singular event. Not several events, or a series of events, etc.
It was also translated as "Chief" and could be as "most honorable."
Nope. Since the Bible always refers to the resurrection of the saved in the singular, we know that Rev 20:5 showing the FIRST resurrection means the first of two total resurrections, one for the saved (at the end of the Trib and Second Advent) and one for the unsaved (GWT judgment).
This resurrection, being for all the righteous for all time, is certainly the most honorable of resurrections
No. Acts 24:15 is clear; one for the saved and one for the unsaved.
I see that you don't see.
No problem at all when you look at a Greek Lexicon.
The problem is you pick and choose what you WANT from a lexicon and IGNORE what the Bible clearly says.
You only imagined that there was a resurrection for the righteous only ONE TIME.
I am so tired of these ridiculous and ludicrous comments.
Matt 22:30 - At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
Luke 14:14 - and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”
Acts 24:15 - and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. ie: one each!
1 Cor 15:23 - But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
Now, on the basis of these verses, go ahead and prove from Scripture that there are MORE THAN ONE resurrection of the saved.
It was pure imagination based on a faulty translation.
I await your proof from Scripture.