The Free Gift of Salvation
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Then how God deals with people with physical defects they were born with has no bearing on you. You, therefore to be saved, must do the "obedient works" of believing, repenting, confessing and submitting to baptism, Jn 8:24; Lk 13:3,5; Mt 10:32,33; Mk16:16.
It appears what you are trying to put forth is a "death bed salvation" type of argument. Some try to get a person on his death bed and saved by faith only, and then try to apply that to everyone where everyone can then saved by faith only just like that person on his death bed. Is this what you are trying to do with quadriplegics? If a quadriplegic does not have to do any works to be saved, then no one has to do any works to be saved?
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The problem with your approach is it begs the question of how much 'believing', how much 'repenting', how much confessing until one has peace of heart that they are now saved and can with a whole heart give thanks for the wonderful salvation and Holy Spirit God has sealed them with. Your view is a page out of Roman Catholic theology.
There is nothing difficult about it. Jesus plainly, clearly said in order for one to be saved he must do the works of believing, repenting, confessing and submitting to baptism.
The "faith only" advocates say "no" one can be saved WITHOUT doing any works, which implies one can be saved in unbelief, while impenitient, while denying Christ and while lost in his unforgiven/unremitted sins.
The "faith only" advocates say "no" one can be saved WITHOUT doing any works, which implies one can be saved in unbelief, while impenitient, while denying Christ and while lost in his unforgiven/unremitted sins.
From your other posts I realize, I think, that these are bare requirements. These are actually conditions that must be met in order to be saved. They of themselves, individually, do not save anyone either.
The faith-only proponents have an issue with the word work, not what different applications that apply. For me, the word "work" in not an issue.
The faith-only proponents have an issue with the word work, not what different applications that apply. For me, the word "work" in not an issue.
"The Free Gift" by God means,,, no human(because all human are Adam's sin and death) but only Jesus is from God as free gift for mankind.
Many confuse in the term of "Free." Some even to think that it gives license to neglect or sining.
But bible means that not from or nor by any Adam's descendants's good actions can not put human back to right place before sining stage,
but only from God as gift, the Jesus who was second Adam.
If one confesses by lips that Jesus is my master of my life(because of the redemption by Jesus) and
in one's heart believes that God raised Jesus our master of life from the death,(because his master lives the one will live also)
then he is saved from God's wrath.
Can any one who are saved, not love his neighbor, or go back to previous life style doing wrong?
If the one who are saved by his master, Jesus,,I'm sure that the one who are saved will dedicate his life for the one who saved him or her.
So doing good things to neighbors are the basic deeds for all christians.
Many confuse in the term of "Free." Some even to think that it gives license to neglect or sining.
But bible means that not from or nor by any Adam's descendants's good actions can not put human back to right place before sining stage,
but only from God as gift, the Jesus who was second Adam.
If one confesses by lips that Jesus is my master of my life(because of the redemption by Jesus) and
in one's heart believes that God raised Jesus our master of life from the death,(because his master lives the one will live also)
then he is saved from God's wrath.
Can any one who are saved, not love his neighbor, or go back to previous life style doing wrong?
If the one who are saved by his master, Jesus,,I'm sure that the one who are saved will dedicate his life for the one who saved him or her.
So doing good things to neighbors are the basic deeds for all christians.
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Salvation is not free. We were bought with a price. A heavy price. It's out of gratitude that we serve, not under coercion. We are responsible to nurture gratitude in our hearts by the renewing of our mind by the guidance of the Holy Spirit and personal effort thru prayer and acts of worship by the sacrificing of our fleshly desires.
The Salvation is not free gift, but grace. If I say to you two words, being saved and obtaining salvation, you would be confused too. The being saved means being born again in water and renewed by spirit. The salvation is not being saved term.
Remember our lord Jesus, he was no sin but he needed to be in the position of the salvation.
The salvation means that through holy way(offerings, and scarifies for sin) walking this way to his father and arrived right hand of father's throne. Our lord Jesus him self is this way(he made it by his body) opened for us, and finally he obtained this glorious salvation. So, salvation is final stage of the FAITH, we start it from being saved position which offered our self as offerings as a part of jesus.
Remember our lord Jesus, he was no sin but he needed to be in the position of the salvation.
The salvation means that through holy way(offerings, and scarifies for sin) walking this way to his father and arrived right hand of father's throne. Our lord Jesus him self is this way(he made it by his body) opened for us, and finally he obtained this glorious salvation. So, salvation is final stage of the FAITH, we start it from being saved position which offered our self as offerings as a part of jesus.
Good question.
I know of many, myself included, who have confessed and repented multiple times and felt the peace of the Holy spirit each time. Yet if you looked at their life presently they would say they are not saved.
Are these false conversions or are they not of the elect? (Coming from a biblical perspective)
I know of many, myself included, who have confessed and repented multiple times and felt the peace of the Holy spirit each time. Yet if you looked at their life presently they would say they are not saved.
Are these false conversions or are they not of the elect? (Coming from a biblical perspective)
One either believes or he does not, it's not a question of "how much". One either is repentant of his sins or not, one either confesses Christ or he does not, one is either baptized or is not.
So you are arguing one can be saved WITHOUT believing? WITHOUT repenting of sins? WITHOUT confessing Christ? WITHOUT having his sins forgiven/remitted?
So you are arguing one can be saved WITHOUT believing? WITHOUT repenting of sins? WITHOUT confessing Christ? WITHOUT having his sins forgiven/remitted?