The Immaculate Conception Error
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Both Calvin and Luther believed that "humans inherit Adamic guilt and are in a state of sin from the moment of conception"
Let's break this down:
1] humans inherit Adamic guilt
2] humans are in a state of sin from the moment of conception
# 1 is false....it's unbibical according to Romans chapter 12
# 2 is correct.
Humans stand condemned because Adam passed to all of us his life indwelt with a fallen human nature. But condemnation isn't the same as guilt!
Guilt involves volition. I cannot be guilty of Adam's sin unless I repeat it. Adam's sin was he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He disobeyed God. I never ate of that tree and therefore I cant' be guilty of his sin.
However, by birth I stand condemned, not because I've sinned, but because I share Adam's life indwelt with sin.
Guilt involves volition. I cannot be guilty of Adam's sin unless I repeat it. Adam's sin was he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He disobeyed God. I never ate of that tree and therefore I cant' be guilty of his sin.
However, by birth I stand condemned, not because I've sinned, but because I share Adam's life indwelt with sin.
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Right there: This is quoted from you, "The RCC adopted the theory of Original Sin at the Council of Trent in the mid 17th century." Original sin is biblical. If it was not why did we need an Adam who was sinless, who was not corrupted by the sinful nature, who died on the cross for our sins, etc? If there was no original sin, there would be no need for Jesus, anybody can be saved through their good works, and it would be like Islam (without the beheading, crucifixions, chopping off of hands like the Code of Hammurabi, etc of course). Which Christianity is not. I am not a Catholic and this is scriptural truth. I plead with you to read the Bible all the way and you will see this concept. This concept is not a theory made by the Roman Catholic Church, but a concept seen in the Bible. God bless.
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Never stated it in the above paragraph.
What I stated is that the RCC adopted the theory in the mid 17th century. They were actually using the foundation long before that. Augustine is the one that originated the idea. Anselm incorporated some of the tenets in his Satisfaction theory of atonement. Thomas Aquinas and Francis of Assisi employed the theory in some of their theologies.
All of the reformers, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Wesley all adopted the Original Sin theory.
However, as a theory it is a false theory, it is not scriptural. I don't think, as you state above, that you even understand the theory.
What I stated is that the RCC adopted the theory in the mid 17th century. They were actually using the foundation long before that. Augustine is the one that originated the idea. Anselm incorporated some of the tenets in his Satisfaction theory of atonement. Thomas Aquinas and Francis of Assisi employed the theory in some of their theologies.
All of the reformers, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Wesley all adopted the Original Sin theory.
However, as a theory it is a false theory, it is not scriptural. I don't think, as you state above, that you even understand the theory.
It is not a false theory (in fact it is not a theory but a concept), it is scriptural. Jesus was not born with a sinful nature, if he was he would cease being fully God and fully man and would only be fully man and not able to save anyone from their sins. I understand the theory, please read the Bible. God bless.
That's nonsense....Where's your Scripture?
Jesus is God. He has always been God. There was never a time when He was not God. There was never a time that He didn't exist as God. He lives in eternity, but at the incarnation Jesus as God was united to our fallen life in the womb of Mary. That life was called the son of man. As the son of man Christ was "born of a woman" and "the seed of David". That means Christ as the son of man took our flesh indwelt with our bent-towards-self, except in His case He never sinned because He was born spiritually alive.
Jesus is God. He has always been God. There was never a time when He was not God. There was never a time that He didn't exist as God. He lives in eternity, but at the incarnation Jesus as God was united to our fallen life in the womb of Mary. That life was called the son of man. As the son of man Christ was "born of a woman" and "the seed of David". That means Christ as the son of man took our flesh indwelt with our bent-towards-self, except in His case He never sinned because He was born spiritually alive.
The answer to this is actually simple, we all have sinful seed because as you said we have sinful fathers. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in Mary, we all understand that but something interesting is that once an egg is fertilised in a woman's womb there is no blood coming from the mommy to the fetus. Since the first minute this little baby/fetus will create its own blood.
Jesus was without sin because His seed was without sin.
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Jesus was without sin because His seed was without sin.
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
he became sin for you and me. It was His choice to save us all.
K
Number 2 is false also because the Word of God shows in the OT there is a age of accountability, and until that age is reached sins will not be held against the individual because they do not yet understand right from wrong.
Also......
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth , it shall die . The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Also......
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth , it shall die . The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.