The Parable of the Ten Virgins Explained

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BroTan

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What you said is Truth = "to start walking in truth and righteousness, keeping the commandment, statues and Judgement."

There is only One Way for this to take place in a persons heart and has been the foundation of Truth since Genesis.

The Oil is symbolic and represents that One Way.

Let's take a look at what Jesus says in John 12: 35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. 36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

So the lamp is the light. Let's take a look at the oil, because the oil keeps the lamp on. If ye have no oil, then ye have no light in the lamp.

In 1 John 1: 4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Paul says in Romans 16: 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

So when you are keeping those commandments, statues and Judgement, you become, Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: (Colossians 2: 7, 6)

So to keep that oil full as possible you have to understand what Jesus says in Luke 4: 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
 

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One of my favorite scriptures is 1 John 3:1-3
Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called sons of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

Right now you are a woman and as a woman there are protective parameters for you that God established in Genesis and confirmed throughout the Scripture including the Gospels, the Letters and Revelation.

In our spirits, in Christ,there is no male or female = in our spirits that was made in the Image of God.

i am a man and as a man there also are protective parameters that God established in Genesis and thru to Revelation.

Keep yourself protected under your husband's covering in Christ. Enjoy fellowship in the Holy Spirit in obedience to Christ.
Satan singled out Eve to undermine God's established/irreversible Order. Satan succeeded and brought the entire world under sin and death.

Follow the clear teaching of the Apostle Paul who was chosen and anointed by Christ for us - 1 Timothy 2

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. 11Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

Now with this said, if you knew my wife and i, you would rejoice in our freedom that we have in Christ and the Holy Spirit.
For we are not of those that promote religion or impede the move of the Holy Spirit in peoples lives. Quite the contrary.
Yet this Freedom is not a license to parade ourselves around outside of the protective parameters set forth by God in Christ.

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Pay close attention to the words of Christ spoken to the seven churches in revelation - especially the last one.

Peace and Blessings from Christ be upon you, your husband and family - Amen
In Christ there is NO male or female. In Christ ALL Believers are EQUAL.

The five fold ministry of Apostles, Evangelists, Prophets, Pastors and Teachers is OPEN to whosoever God anoints with the Holy Spirit so that the needs of the Body of Christ can be supplied.

Take the religious spirit blinders off and see what God sees.

The male and female covenant is in marriage and only pertains to marriage, NOT in the Body of Christ.

If God chooses a woman to be an Apostle in the Body of Christ, she can be an Apostle in Christ and still be a wife to her husband.

The husband needs to be functioning in whatever five fold ministry calling God has given him and be a husband to his wife.

Only in marriage does a man become a husband and a woman becomes a wife. However, IN CHRIST, ALL Believers function in the five fold ministry callings.

As I said before…

Only in marriage is the man head of his wife the woman but Christ is the Head of His Church- ALL BELIEVERS- there is NO male or female in His Church.

When I take a job, I come under my boss’s authority but ONLY concerning my job…NOT my faith in Jesus Christ.

When I get married, I come under my husband’s authority but ONLY concerning the marriage…NOT my faith in Christ.

ALL Believers are EQUAL in Christ- there is NO male or female. All Believers as His Church are subject directly to Christ.
 

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The five fold ministry of Apostles, Evangelists, Prophets, Pastors and Teachers is OPEN to whosoever God anoints with the Holy Spirit so that the needs of the Body of Christ can be supplied.
This statement is in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to the Word of God. No wonder there is so much spiritual confusion. And there is no more any "five-fold ministry". The apostles and prophets have been long gone. What we have today are bogus apostles and prophets.
 

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This statement is in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to the Word of God. No wonder there is so much spiritual confusion. And there is no more any "five-fold ministry". The apostles and prophets have been long gone. What we have today are bogus apostles and prophets.
No @Nehemiah6, not so! What I have said is TRUE. :love:(y)
 

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I am saying that it would impossible for Paul to have had that in mind. Revelation would not be written for another 40 years. (or 20 if you believed in an earlier date for Rev) Therefore it is not possible that Corinthians when they read the letter would have had any knowledge of the Revelation trumpets and therefore could not have understood it this way. Paul had something else in mind when he said Last Trump and not the trumpets of Revelation yet to be written.
Brother, Old Testament prophets also spoke regarding the trumpets and the latter days that we read about in the book of Revelation. God has always used prophets and His chosen to warn us. We have been foretold. . .

Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand: A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations. A fire devours before them, And behind them a flame burns; The land is like the Garden of Eden before them, And behind them a desolate wilderness; Surely nothing shall escape them. Their appearance is like the appearance of horses; And like swift steeds, so they run. With a noise like chariots Over mountaintops they leap, Like the noise of a flaming fire that devours the stubble, Like a strong people set in battle array. Before them the people writhe in pain; All faces are drained of color. They run like mighty men, They climb the wall like men of war; Every one marches in formation, And they do not break ranks. They do not push one another; Every one marches in his own column. Though they lunge between the weapons, They are not cut down. They run to and fro in the city, They run on the wall; They climb into the houses, They enter at the windows like a thief. The earth quakes before them, The heavens tremble; The sun and moon grow dark, And the stars diminish their brightness. The LORD gives voice before His army, For His camp is very great; For strong is the One who executes His word. For the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; Who can endure it?

- Joel 2:1-11 (NKJV)

The "Coming of the Lord's Day" (the Second Coming) is the central theme of Joel's book. It’s PROPHECY. God will send an army of "Locusts," (Satan's followers) to cover the planet. These events described in Joel will most certainly occur, and some of us will be here to witness them. It's never happened before in the history of the planet. We can already see that many things are being turned inside out and upside down in the world—worldwide perversion, as good becomes bad and right becomes wrong.
 
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Let's take a look at what Jesus says in John 12: 35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. 36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

So the lamp is the light. Let's take a look at the oil, because the oil keeps the lamp on. If ye have no oil, then ye have no light in the lamp.

In 1 John 1: 4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Paul says in Romans 16: 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

So when you are keeping those commandments, statues and Judgement, you become, Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: (Colossians 2: 7, 6)

So to keep that oil full as possible you have to understand what Jesus says in Luke 4: 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Looks like you go to great lengths to avoid any recognition of the work of the Holy Spirit.

Are you cessationist?
 
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Of course it applied to them. The dead in Christ are raised when that Last Trump and the Voice of the Archangel is heard. That means that if they were not alive at the time they would be dead and still hear it and be raised. It had to apply to them whether they were alive or dead.
And the trainwreck in hermeneutics would occur when asking the question "how would they have understood him" has no value in determining authorial intent. Your saying that they did not understand him and could not. Because they died? If you die before this final trumpet then does that mean you can't understand what Paul meant? I am not following your logic. Paul expected those he wrote to, to be able to understand his sentences. He did not write as a gnostic with secret riddl

Yes, and so the point is still the same. The Last Trump Paul was talking about was an established concept concerning the day of the Lord. This description in Rev 11 is repeating that. So now we are on the same page.

What many have been saying is that Paul was referring to the 7th trumpet in Revelation as if Paul had the idea of number 7 in a series of 6. And they use this to somehow say that the pretribulation theory cannot be correct. This muddies the waters. The pretribulation theory is not ruled out by Pauls use of the phrase "Last Trump"

I am open to both views, as I see logic for both interpretations and lean toward pretrib because it seems to be the best hermeneutic for all of the eschatological verses as a whole, but I am not dogmatic and realize I could be mistaken.
postribbers place their entire doctrine on "this" trumpet is also "this" one.

Entire doctrine on a fluke.

SMH
 
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If you are going to follow me around and hide behind emogies, just put me on ignore.
He can not speak for himself?
 
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I went back to see where your unforgiveness against me originated.

That exchange seemed friendly enough, and was concept vs concept....which is where i like to keep it.

But you got offended i suppose.
I was not even addressing you when you started your run on me.
 
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Greetings brother. I do not write in a spirit of arguing either. I enjoy provoking one another to careful exegesis to determine correct interpretations. I appreciate the spirit of your response.

I agree that Paul had many revelations. Some of which he would not share with his readers because they were not ready to receive it for various reasons. My point was that in hermeneutics we cannot make an argument that Paul was thinking about the 7th trumpet in Revelation with knowledge of it being the 7th in a series with 6 before it because God gave him a special revelation because that would be just an imagination of ours and nothing we could prove with scripture including the one you posted.

We can however make a case for Paul referring to something out of the Old Testament or even something that Jesus taught. If we can find the references which I have already posted now.

But to say that Paul had revelations some of which he was forbidden to write will not support that he was referring to the 7th trumpet of Revelation as a 7th in series of 7. This type of hermeneutic cannot be supported. It is just a "maybe he did and didn't tell us" type of hermeneutic and too doubtful to seriously consider.
Yes, but we also cannot say he didn't for the very reasons you stated herein.

I do AGREE with you completely = "We can however make a case for Paul referring to something out of the Old Testament or even something that Jesus taught. If we can find the references which I have already posted now. "

YES, i appreciate being provoked, thru love and even mockery, to search Scripture and to test Scripture against Scripture.

You do understand that there is a hierarchy/Order of Scripture - Yes/No?
 
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In Christ there is NO male or female. In Christ ALL Believers are EQUAL.

The five fold ministry of Apostles, Evangelists, Prophets, Pastors and Teachers is OPEN to whosoever God anoints with the Holy Spirit so that the needs of the Body of Christ can be supplied.

Take the religious spirit blinders off and see what God sees.

The male and female covenant is in marriage and only pertains to marriage, NOT in the Body of Christ.

If God chooses a woman to be an Apostle in the Body of Christ, she can be an Apostle in Christ and still be a wife to her husband.

The husband needs to be functioning in whatever five fold ministry calling God has given him and be a husband to his wife.

Only in marriage does a man become a husband and a woman becomes a wife. However, IN CHRIST, ALL Believers function in the five fold ministry callings.

As I said before…
lol - "religious spiritual blinders" = i see satan found another woman to twist scripture - again
 

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Thank You for the reply - HOWEVER - You did not answer the question - Your answer ONLY pertains to the physical dead bodies.

Question: Where are the spirits/souls of all the Saints who die in the Lord since His resurrection???

Please answer this question with Scripture only and remember that only our bodies die and return to dust - not our spirit/soul.

To help you with this please read Luke 16

“There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

27“Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ”

Question: Where are the spirits/souls of all the Saints who die in the Lord since His resurrection???
I did answer the question, the question is everything ever known to God is not always given unto mankind explicitly, so you have to go by what little we have on the subject and use COMMON SENSE. Since the Jews were placed in a holding place, and since we are raised (those who die) at the LAST TRUMP, just like those who are alive on this earth are CHANGED at the LAST TRUMP (So, both are taken to Heaven at the same time at the LAST TRUMP). That is all I need o know to understand it all, it's not mandated that I know where the souls are kept, for all I care they could be on top of a Mountain on Jupiter, what dies that matter? It doesn't matter. What I d know is that those souls are in a state of SLEEP. Unconsciousness. We do not get taken to Heaven and judged until the Last Trump, if we did, then the DEAD would not need to be raised at the LAST TRUMP this is common sense brother.

All we need to know is the Dead are raised at the last trump, nothing else matters in reality. There is no need for those who are already in Heaven to be RAISED from the Dead UNLESS they are not already in Heaven.
 
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In Christ there is NO male or female. In Christ ALL Believers are EQUAL.

The five fold ministry of Apostles, Evangelists, Prophets, Pastors and Teachers is OPEN to whosoever God anoints with the Holy Spirit so that the needs of the Body of Christ can be supplied.

Take the religious spirit blinders off and see what God sees.

The male and female covenant is in marriage and only pertains to marriage, NOT in the Body of Christ.

If God chooses a woman to be an Apostle in the Body of Christ, she can be an Apostle in Christ and still be a wife to her husband.

The husband needs to be functioning in whatever five fold ministry calling God has given him and be a husband to his wife.

Only in marriage does a man become a husband and a woman becomes a wife. However, IN CHRIST, ALL Believers function in the five fold ministry callings.

As I said before…
Isolating and cherry picking scripture to establish a religion is satan's well established tactics.

i place my trust in the Male Savior - the Lord Jesus Christ and in His FATHER (male gender designation)
and in the Holy Spirit which is always referred to in male gender designation as 'HE'.

i completely trust the Plan of God that HE laid out in Genesis for 'Mankind'.

This Plan of God never included a woman to be an Apostle when HE chose the twelve male disciples and then later HE chose Paul.

i completely trust the male Apostle Paul who wrote: Galatians and 1 Timothy

First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone— for kings and all those in authority—so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all—the testimony that was given at just the right time.

For this reason I was appointed as a preacher, an apostle, and a faithful and true teacher of the Gentiles. I am telling the truth; I am not lying about anything. Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or dissension.

Instructions to Women

Likewise, I want the women to adorn themselves with respectable apparel, with modesty, and with self-control, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, as is proper for women who profess to worship God.

A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man;c she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. Women, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.


Aren't you the woman who went around saying the VAXX was like preaching the Gospel................

The same tactic satan used in the Garden he is now running rampant upon the world.
 
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I did answer the question, the question is everything ever known to God is not always given unto mankind explicitly, so you have to go by what little we have on the subject and use COMMON SENSE. Since the Jews were placed in a holding place, and since we are raised (those who die) at the LAST TRUMP, just like those who are alive on this earth are CHANGED at the LAST TRUMP (So, both are taken to Heaven at the same time at the LAST TRUMP). That is all I need o know to understand it all, it's not mandated that I know where the souls are kept, for all I care they could be on top of a Mountain on Jupiter, what dies that matter? It doesn't matter. What I d know is that those souls are in a state of SLEEP. Unconsciousness. We do not get taken to Heaven and judged until the Last Trump, if we did, then the DEAD would not need to be raised at the LAST TRUMP this is common sense brother.

All we need to know is the Dead are raised at the last trump, nothing else matters in reality. There is no need for those who are already in Heaven to be RAISED from the Dead UNLESS they are not already in Heaven.
Brother, this is hilarious and complete error from your 'pre-trib' religion and does not come from Scripture.

You were given clear Scripture from the Gospel of Luke as well as Revelation and the Apostle Paul.

All this Scripture you reject to protect an erroneous belief.

You are unable to answer the question - which is easily answered directly from Scripture.
 
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Let's take a look at what Jesus says in John 12: 35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. 36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

So the lamp is the light. Let's take a look at the oil, because the oil keeps the lamp on. If ye have no oil, then ye have no light in the lamp.

In 1 John 1: 4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. 5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Paul says in Romans 16: 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

So when you are keeping those commandments, statues and Judgement, you become, Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: (Colossians 2: 7, 6)

So to keep that oil full as possible you have to understand what Jesus says in Luke 4: 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
And all that you posted here comes from the Holy Spirit to us and within us - not from our own selves.

Without the Holy Spirit - no one keeps the commandments of God - no one.

And that is why the LORD used the Oil in the Parable and then said to the five foolish - "I DON"T KNOW YOU"

There are THREE that can never be separated = the FATHER the SON the HOLY SPIRIT

Read Pray Study the Gospel of John, Acts, 1 Corinthians, 1 John
 

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Know as in to be 'intimately' connected (as in having done the dirty deed)? Is that not the very definition of a virgin?
JTB,

I havent read any of your other posts but since this is a theological discussion, I assume you're a Christian. I don't think calling sex the 'dirty deed' is appropriate. All that God made is good, though man sometimes perverts it. Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled..."
 

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Isolating and cherry picking scripture to establish a religion is satan's well established tactics.

i place my trust in the Male Savior - the Lord Jesus Christ and in His FATHER (male gender designation)
and in the Holy Spirit which is always referred to in male gender designation as 'HE'.

i completely trust the Plan of God that HE laid out in Genesis for 'Mankind'.

This Plan of God never included a woman to be an Apostle when HE chose the twelve male disciples and then later HE chose Paul.

i completely trust the male Apostle Paul who wrote: Galatians and 1 Timothy

First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone— for kings and all those in authority—so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all—the testimony that was given at just the right time.

For this reason I was appointed as a preacher, an apostle, and a faithful and true teacher of the Gentiles. I am telling the truth; I am not lying about anything. Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or dissension.

Instructions to Women

Likewise, I want the women to adorn themselves with respectable apparel, with modesty, and with self-control, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, as is proper for women who profess to worship God.

A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man;c she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. Women, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.


Aren't you the woman who went around saying the VAXX was like preaching the Gospel................

The same tactic satan used in the Garden he is now running rampant upon the world.
The instructions for the man and woman apply to marriage, NOT the Body of Christ.

In the Body of Christ there is neither male or female. All are equal IN CHRIST.


The function of a woman in a marriage is to submit to her husband only regarding the marriage. As a believer IN Christ, the woman's function is to submit to Christ, NOT man. A man can be an Evangelist and a Husband. Likewise, a woman can be an Evangelist and a Wife.

The five fold ministry of Apostle, Evangelist, Prophet, Pastor and Teacher is OPEN to ALL Believers IN CHRIST, as God chooses. ALL Believers are to minister to the Body of Christ according to their calling that is God given. Our calling is NOT based on if we are male or female; however, our role in marriage is based on if we are male or female.

It is not good to confuse our roles in marriage with our roles in the Body of Christ.
 

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lol - "religious spiritual blinders" = i see satan found another woman to twist scripture - again
Is it ONLY women that twist scripture or did satan find another man to twist it? :unsure:
 

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This Plan of God never included a woman to be an Apostle when
HE chose the twelve male disciples and then later HE chose Paul.
Apostle means one sent. The definition of apostle (from the Greek apostolos)
is "one who is sent" or "one commissioned." The term appears more than 80 times
in the New Testament. In Hebrews 3:1, the word was applied to Jesus Christ, Who
was sent by God. Jesus sent Mary Magdalene as the first to testify of His resurrection.