The reason for conflicting dogmas.
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1.Some people have beliefs that are not part of the Bible,and they interpret the Bible that way.
2.Some people do not have enough information of the Bible to make the right conclusion.
3.Some people listen to other people and take their word for it,and do not check in to it.
4.Some people like to hear the Bible according to how they like to live their life.
Out of all that has been written down the Bible is the most misinterpreted book ever in the history of mankind.
Because it is the most popular book,where many people that have beliefs that are not part of the Bible will interpret the Bible that way,and other religions belief the Bible holds some truth,even Muslims,and the occultists believe it holds truth.
You have people with their own beliefs,people of other religions,people who do not go to Church,people who are occultists,and people in the truth,believing that the Bible holds truth,but many do not believe it is the whole truth,but they still believe it holds truth.
The Bible is the most feared book in the world for its popularity,with the attitude we better leave this book alone for it holds truth,or it could be true,so why take the chance.
The Pharisees sent officers to take Jesus,but the officers came back empty handed,and the Pharisees said,why did you not take Him,and they said,because no man ever spoke like this man before.
Jesus spoke to them so boldly that he caused fear,and doubt,in their mind,and they said,we better leave this man alone,for if He is telling the truth we do not want to be going against God,and that power.
That is how the world views the Bible,they do not want to take the chance so leave it alone,for it speaks so boldly,that it is causing fear,and doubt,in the world.
But that will change.
America has a peace plan for the world,but she will collapse,and fail at her objective for there to be peace.
This will cause the Gentile nations to come together to continue that peace plan,the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system based on the new age movement,based on spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,and all other beliefs will not be tolerated.
America is viewed as a Christian nation,and when she collapses the world will say where is their God,for Christianity could not obtain peace on earth,and their God must not be true.
And add to that the new age movement interpretation of the Bible is getting popular that is about spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment.They promote evolution,and people are still evolving,which is very popular in the world,and the new age movement is the future for this sinful world.
Add to that the most popular belief of the rapture trilogy is pre-trib,and when that does not happen it will give less credit to Christianity,and they will view the Bible is not true.
Add to that the many hypocrites,loving money,and material things,and fleshy pleasures,and them fighting with each other,and not loving in the world as they used to be,and will be viewed as Christianity is not the answer for the world,and fundamental Christianity is false.
Because of the circumstances that occur,the world will turn to the new age movement interpretation of the Bible,and that it is about evolution,and people are still evolving,and going away from a personal God.
The fundamental belief is not tolerated,and the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,power through nature to evolve to be greater than their current position,the lie that Satan told Eve that she will be greater than her current position,for they shall be as gods.
The fear,and doubt,of the Bible is gone,and the world will move forward with a different belief of the Bible,one that they do not fear,and doubt,until they get to the beast kingdom where they do not acknowledge any God,but the God of forces,the power of nature as their God.
America will collapse and the world will come together,the ten horn kingdom,but the ten horn kingdom will collapse,and the beast kingdom will come about as the answer to have peace on earth.
2.Some people do not have enough information of the Bible to make the right conclusion.
3.Some people listen to other people and take their word for it,and do not check in to it.
4.Some people like to hear the Bible according to how they like to live their life.
Out of all that has been written down the Bible is the most misinterpreted book ever in the history of mankind.
Because it is the most popular book,where many people that have beliefs that are not part of the Bible will interpret the Bible that way,and other religions belief the Bible holds some truth,even Muslims,and the occultists believe it holds truth.
You have people with their own beliefs,people of other religions,people who do not go to Church,people who are occultists,and people in the truth,believing that the Bible holds truth,but many do not believe it is the whole truth,but they still believe it holds truth.
The Bible is the most feared book in the world for its popularity,with the attitude we better leave this book alone for it holds truth,or it could be true,so why take the chance.
The Pharisees sent officers to take Jesus,but the officers came back empty handed,and the Pharisees said,why did you not take Him,and they said,because no man ever spoke like this man before.
Jesus spoke to them so boldly that he caused fear,and doubt,in their mind,and they said,we better leave this man alone,for if He is telling the truth we do not want to be going against God,and that power.
That is how the world views the Bible,they do not want to take the chance so leave it alone,for it speaks so boldly,that it is causing fear,and doubt,in the world.
But that will change.
America has a peace plan for the world,but she will collapse,and fail at her objective for there to be peace.
This will cause the Gentile nations to come together to continue that peace plan,the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system based on the new age movement,based on spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,and all other beliefs will not be tolerated.
America is viewed as a Christian nation,and when she collapses the world will say where is their God,for Christianity could not obtain peace on earth,and their God must not be true.
And add to that the new age movement interpretation of the Bible is getting popular that is about spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment.They promote evolution,and people are still evolving,which is very popular in the world,and the new age movement is the future for this sinful world.
Add to that the most popular belief of the rapture trilogy is pre-trib,and when that does not happen it will give less credit to Christianity,and they will view the Bible is not true.
Add to that the many hypocrites,loving money,and material things,and fleshy pleasures,and them fighting with each other,and not loving in the world as they used to be,and will be viewed as Christianity is not the answer for the world,and fundamental Christianity is false.
Because of the circumstances that occur,the world will turn to the new age movement interpretation of the Bible,and that it is about evolution,and people are still evolving,and going away from a personal God.
The fundamental belief is not tolerated,and the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,power through nature to evolve to be greater than their current position,the lie that Satan told Eve that she will be greater than her current position,for they shall be as gods.
The fear,and doubt,of the Bible is gone,and the world will move forward with a different belief of the Bible,one that they do not fear,and doubt,until they get to the beast kingdom where they do not acknowledge any God,but the God of forces,the power of nature as their God.
America will collapse and the world will come together,the ten horn kingdom,but the ten horn kingdom will collapse,and the beast kingdom will come about as the answer to have peace on earth.
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In Revelation 2 and 3 the seven churches throughout Asia Minor are warned of their shortcomings and to take heed of them, and to overcome them.
Were not these seven churches of God and not the world?
The answer is that those of us who decide to overcome our carnal inclinations are indeed not of the world, but those of us who decide not to overcome their carnal inclinations, are of the world.
Were not these seven churches of God and not the world?
The answer is that those of us who decide to overcome our carnal inclinations are indeed not of the world, but those of us who decide not to overcome their carnal inclinations, are of the world.
With Satan being a master deceiver, do you think he would overlook the opportunity created by ignorance? He certainly didn't miss that opportunity with Eve when she appeared ignorant of what God actually said (as compared to what she answered the serpent) in the garden of Eden.
Even God states that HIS people are destroyed for lack of knowledge (aka ignorance). In fact he goes on to say "because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject thee".
I realize that is NOT a popular way of thinking amongst Christians, (because of fear) but do you not realize how many times Jesus tried to get that message across to us?
"To whom much is given, much is required. " Do you really believe that it's the unbelievers (who have been given little) that are required to study and seek God more than the Christian (who has been given much)?
Do you forget that AFTER or at least during the "tribulation of those days" the kingdom of GOD(not the world in general) will be like 10 virgins. ..only half of whom were wise enough to make it in?
Even God states that HIS people are destroyed for lack of knowledge (aka ignorance). In fact he goes on to say "because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject thee".
I realize that is NOT a popular way of thinking amongst Christians, (because of fear) but do you not realize how many times Jesus tried to get that message across to us?
"To whom much is given, much is required. " Do you really believe that it's the unbelievers (who have been given little) that are required to study and seek God more than the Christian (who has been given much)?
Do you forget that AFTER or at least during the "tribulation of those days" the kingdom of GOD(not the world in general) will be like 10 virgins. ..only half of whom were wise enough to make it in?
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world,
following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is
now at work in the sons of disobedience—
3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh,
carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and
were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the
great love with which he loved us,
5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us
alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—
6 and raised us up with him and seated us with
him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable
riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith.
And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus
for good works, which God prepared beforehand,
that we should walk in them.
Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people
of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will
gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land.
22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the
mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over
them all, and they shall be no longer two nations,
and no longer divided into two kingdoms.
23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their
idols and their detestable things, or with any of their
transgressions. But I will save them from all the
backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse
them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
24 “My servant David shall be king over them, and they
shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules
and be careful to obey my statutes.
25 They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant
Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children
and their children's children shall dwell there forever,
and David my servant shall be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall
be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them
in their land and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary
in their midst forevermore.
27 My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will
be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 Then the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies
Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.”
2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world,
following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is
now at work in the sons of disobedience—
3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh,
carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and
were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the
great love with which he loved us,
5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us
alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—
6 and raised us up with him and seated us with
him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable
riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith.
And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus
for good works, which God prepared beforehand,
that we should walk in them.
Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people
of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will
gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land.
22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the
mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over
them all, and they shall be no longer two nations,
and no longer divided into two kingdoms.
23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their
idols and their detestable things, or with any of their
transgressions. But I will save them from all the
backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse
them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
24 “My servant David shall be king over them, and they
shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules
and be careful to obey my statutes.
25 They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant
Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children
and their children's children shall dwell there forever,
and David my servant shall be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall
be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them
in their land and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary
in their midst forevermore.
27 My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will
be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 Then the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies
Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.”
You are contradicting yourself. You made an absolute statement that we are part of the deceived world, then you give an exception (those who decide to overcome carnal inclinations are indeed not of the world). So which one is it?
They are mutually exclusive. Saved = not part of the world. Unsaved = part of the world. That is very clear, what you are vacillating between is very confusing.
There is clear biblical delineation between us the believers, and the world.
They are mutually exclusive. Saved = not part of the world. Unsaved = part of the world. That is very clear, what you are vacillating between is very confusing.
There is clear biblical delineation between us the believers, and the world.
I can only attest to my own relationship with the Lord I cannot comment an any other persons state of knowledge or salvation.
I also cannot answer your question about the differing opinions people have on the same scriptures.
Truthfully I do not know. Smarter folks on this forum could answer that question, if it is indeed an open question.
I also cannot answer your question about the differing opinions people have on the same scriptures.
Truthfully I do not know. Smarter folks on this forum could answer that question, if it is indeed an open question.
Quite frankly, I think it has a lot to do with simply reacting to various individual verses (or even slightly larger passages) rather than actually knowing the full Bible.
The book of Revelation is a good example. We may make reference back to something in Daniel or another isolated verse somewhere, while still not understanding that almost everything John wrote about in that book came strictly from the pages of the Old Testament prophecies against the apostasy of Israel during Jesus' time on Earth.
The book of Revelation is a good example. We may make reference back to something in Daniel or another isolated verse somewhere, while still not understanding that almost everything John wrote about in that book came strictly from the pages of the Old Testament prophecies against the apostasy of Israel during Jesus' time on Earth.
The Blind Men and the Elephant
as adapted and conceived by
John Godfrey Saxe
It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.
The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a WALL!"
The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, "Ho, what have we here,
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a SPEAR!"
The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a SNAKE!"
The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he:
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a TREE!"
The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a FAN!"
The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a ROPE!"
And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!
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as adapted and conceived by
John Godfrey Saxe
It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.
The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a WALL!"
The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, "Ho, what have we here,
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a SPEAR!"
The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a SNAKE!"
The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he:
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a TREE!"
The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a FAN!"
The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a ROPE!"
And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!
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I think Revelation was a letter written to the churches of the coastal area (Turkey), as it plainly states, telling them to take heart that what they were seeing and experiencing was the culmination of dozens and dozens of prophesies they all already knew by heart (that's why he was repeating them in the letter) about what was going to happen to Jewish Israel in the next few years (again, a timeframe he repeats at both the beginning and the end of that letter)
And I think some of the final part is a warning (not a crystal-ball prediction) of what could happen in the future if each (and any) generation goes the same way Israel went wnen that destruction came upon them.
But, I believe the overwhelming majority of the letter was written to encourage a bunch of frightened and even doubting 1st-Century Christians.
And I think some of the final part is a warning (not a crystal-ball prediction) of what could happen in the future if each (and any) generation goes the same way Israel went wnen that destruction came upon them.
But, I believe the overwhelming majority of the letter was written to encourage a bunch of frightened and even doubting 1st-Century Christians.
Well-placed. 
If you do not know why there are differing opinions about the same scriptures, then you do not believe that we are all currently deceived by a false illuminater.
We believers may be far less deceived than are the unbelievers, but according to Revelation 12:9 we are nevertheless part of the whole world currently deceived by Satan.
We believers may be far less deceived than are the unbelievers, but according to Revelation 12:9 we are nevertheless part of the whole world currently deceived by Satan.
