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you are a disgrace.
you take the exploitation of depraved sinners and ignorant tribal people; the continual agitation to civil wars and murder FOR THE BENEFIT of OUTSIDERS....and you NEVER name the men (not) hidden behind the curtain.
The Rothschild’s South Sudan Oil Grab
July 17, 2011 — Dean Henderson
On July 9, 2011 South Sudan became the world’s 193rd nation. Less than a week later violence has erupted in South Kordofan, an area on the new border between Sudan and South Sudan which is controlled by Sudan and rich in oil.
Not content with the seizure of South Sudan’s oilfields, the Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel looks set to push the new border further north, grabbing yet more crude oil from the Sudanese people
For decades Western intelligence agencies backed the Sudanese People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) in an attempt to lop off the southern half of Sudan for the Four Horsemen of Oil. The region contains 75% of Sudan’s oil reserves. What became Africa’s longest running civil war finally came to an end when Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir was pressured into ceding the southern part of his country to the IMF/World Bank vampires after the conflict they created left more than 2 million people dead. [1]
The Rothschild’s South Sudan Oil Grab | LEFT HOOK by Dean Henderson < click
Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel
IMF/World Bank vampires
MUSLIMS?
or jews exploiting the world.
we'll see.
i have a free day today.
every post you make, we're going to look at who benefits from all this MURDER - is it the ones who get murdered?
the ignorant murderers who stay in the same sickening condition.....yes, they are guilty.
BUT THERE`S SOMETHING FAR FAR WORSE THAN ALL THAT
Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel
IMF/World Bank vampires
lets start here and see where these people are in the world today and throughout history and how what THEY do brings about the stuff you post on. ALL OF IT.
if there are really any people here who have never heard of Blood Diamonds and dont know about the The Boer Wars and the 30 years war; the American Civil War and WW1 and WW2 and the UN and the Soviet Union and GULAGS and GITMO, and the Arab Spring and delightful things like GOYIM infanticide - abortion (MILLIONS GLOBALLY every year)..
LETS FIND OUT IF ITS MUSLIMS INVOLVED IN ALL THAT.
you think you have ANYTHING using Pam Geller or WND and your fake christian burning atrocity sites.
sorry man.
pleased to meet you - my name is zone.
i learn.
and you will too
you take the exploitation of depraved sinners and ignorant tribal people; the continual agitation to civil wars and murder FOR THE BENEFIT of OUTSIDERS....and you NEVER name the men (not) hidden behind the curtain.
The Rothschild’s South Sudan Oil Grab
July 17, 2011 — Dean Henderson
On July 9, 2011 South Sudan became the world’s 193rd nation. Less than a week later violence has erupted in South Kordofan, an area on the new border between Sudan and South Sudan which is controlled by Sudan and rich in oil.
Not content with the seizure of South Sudan’s oilfields, the Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel looks set to push the new border further north, grabbing yet more crude oil from the Sudanese people
For decades Western intelligence agencies backed the Sudanese People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) in an attempt to lop off the southern half of Sudan for the Four Horsemen of Oil. The region contains 75% of Sudan’s oil reserves. What became Africa’s longest running civil war finally came to an end when Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir was pressured into ceding the southern part of his country to the IMF/World Bank vampires after the conflict they created left more than 2 million people dead. [1]
The Rothschild’s South Sudan Oil Grab | LEFT HOOK by Dean Henderson < click
Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel
IMF/World Bank vampires
MUSLIMS?
or jews exploiting the world.
we'll see.
i have a free day today.
every post you make, we're going to look at who benefits from all this MURDER - is it the ones who get murdered?
the ignorant murderers who stay in the same sickening condition.....yes, they are guilty.
BUT THERE`S SOMETHING FAR FAR WORSE THAN ALL THAT
Rothschild-led Eight Families banking cartel
IMF/World Bank vampires
lets start here and see where these people are in the world today and throughout history and how what THEY do brings about the stuff you post on. ALL OF IT.
if there are really any people here who have never heard of Blood Diamonds and dont know about the The Boer Wars and the 30 years war; the American Civil War and WW1 and WW2 and the UN and the Soviet Union and GULAGS and GITMO, and the Arab Spring and delightful things like GOYIM infanticide - abortion (MILLIONS GLOBALLY every year)..
LETS FIND OUT IF ITS MUSLIMS INVOLVED IN ALL THAT.
you think you have ANYTHING using Pam Geller or WND and your fake christian burning atrocity sites.
sorry man.
pleased to meet you - my name is zone.
i learn.
and you will too
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55,772,015 Abortions in America Since Roe v. Wade in 1973
by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 1/18/13 1:13 PM
55,772,015 Abortions in America Since Roe vs. Wade in 1973 | LifeNews.com < click
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion
...So, the USCJ in a 1991 resolution did resolve the following, among others:
“WHEREAS, Judaism does not believe that personhood and human rights begin with conception (the premise that personhood begins with conception is founded on a religious position which is not identical with Jewish tradition); and
WHEREAS, under special circumstances, Judaism chooses and requires abortion as an act which affirms and protects the life, well being and health of the mother; and
WHEREAS, to deny a Jewish woman and her family the ability to obtain a safe, legal abortion when so mandated by Jewish tradition, is to deprive Jews of their fundamental right of religious freedom;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism continues to affirm its strong opposition to any further weakening, limitation, or withdrawal of the 1973 Supreme Court decision of Roe v. Wade….”[xxviii]
The Study Group found that,
In the Talmud and rabbinic writings, the embryo and fetus are seen as limbs, as extensions of the life of the mother (Rosner 1978, 257-259). While the fetus is potential human life and deserving of special moral consideration and protection, it is not regarded as independent human life; it is a part of the body of the mother and has no ‘legal’ status of its own. Thus, in issues such as abortion, the presumption is always in favor of the mother. Jewish religious law permits abortion whenever the pregnancy poses a threat to the physical or, according to some interpretations to the psychological well-being of the mother (Feldman 1986, 79-90)….
“This earliest source of this teaching is found in the Torah….Later, in the rabbinic tradition, it was taught that if a woman has life-threatening difficulty in childbirth, the child should be aborted (Mishna, Oholot 7:6). Once its head has emerged, however, it may not be harmed. The Talmud explains that the embryo may be seen as a `pursuer’ and one is justified I defending one’s life against a pursuer….
“While the Talmud briefly discusses the issue of ensoulment, it dismisses it as ultimately unanswerable (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 110b). According to accepted Jewish teaching the soul enters at birth, and this matter is irrelevant to the question of abortion, since the life and health of the mother are the issues at stake.[iii]
Can anyone doubt, having read the conclusions of the Indiana University report, that the rationale for legal abortion and for partial birth abortion is Jewish? Even the United States Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade took the side of the Jews when it decided that the unborn could be destroyed since it is not a human being and life had not yet begun: “There has always been strong support for the view that life does not begin until live birth. This was the belief of the Stoics. It appears to be the predominant, though not the unanimous, attitude of the Jewish faith.” Id., 410 US 113, 160.
The Supreme Court in Roe referred on at least five occasions to Abortion, a book by Lawrence Lader, a Jew,[iv] and a bitter opponent of the Roman Catholic Church. Justice Blackmun noted the book with authority when discussing the history of abortion particularly as it was “practiced in Greek times as well as in the Roman era, and that ‘it was resorted to without scruple’” (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 130). Blackmun also referred to Abortion as authority for the statements that abortion was not an indictable offense under the common law and that the states had enacted laws limiting the same around the time of the American Civil War (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 139). Perhaps most significantly, Blackmun cited Lader’s book as authority for the proposition that “Mortality rates for women undergoing early abortions, where the procedure is legal, appear to be as low as or lower than the rates for normal childbirth. Consequently, any interest of the state in protecting the woman from an inherently hazardous procedure, except when it would be equally dangerous for her to forgo it, has largely disappeared” (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 149). And, perhaps equally significantly Blackmun accepted Lader’s argument that opposition to abortion was only a Catholic thing (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 160).
According to Lader’s obituary in The Washington Post on May 11, 2006, he tried to destroy the tax status of the Roman Catholic Church for opposing abortion. His book, Abortion, was published in 1966 and made the argument for the legalization of abortion, while also presenting the Jewish position on abortion. Lader wrote:
Although Judaism has no central authority, and its congregations are organized into three branches, Orthodox, Conservative, and Reformed, often differing in interpretation of Jewish tradition, its position on the beginnings of human life contrasts sharply with Catholic theology.
“Judaism has never been concerned with the concept of soul and the moment of its infusion in the fetus; nor does it treat the fetus as a human entity apart from its mother. (p. 97)
Lader explained that the “‘…fetus is part of its mother, and just as a person may choose to sacrifice a limb of his body in order to be cured of a worse malady, so may the fetus be destroyed for the sake of its mother,’ [Rabbi Israel] Margolies concludes….The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated: ‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child insider her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.’….”[v]
It was the Talmud who gave authority to destroy the child in the womb of the mother: “The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated:
‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.”[vi]
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion < click
55,772,015 Abortions in America
cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb
by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 1/18/13 1:13 PM
55,772,015 Abortions in America Since Roe vs. Wade in 1973 | LifeNews.com < click
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion
...So, the USCJ in a 1991 resolution did resolve the following, among others:
“WHEREAS, Judaism does not believe that personhood and human rights begin with conception (the premise that personhood begins with conception is founded on a religious position which is not identical with Jewish tradition); and
WHEREAS, under special circumstances, Judaism chooses and requires abortion as an act which affirms and protects the life, well being and health of the mother; and
WHEREAS, to deny a Jewish woman and her family the ability to obtain a safe, legal abortion when so mandated by Jewish tradition, is to deprive Jews of their fundamental right of religious freedom;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism continues to affirm its strong opposition to any further weakening, limitation, or withdrawal of the 1973 Supreme Court decision of Roe v. Wade….”[xxviii]
The Study Group found that,
In the Talmud and rabbinic writings, the embryo and fetus are seen as limbs, as extensions of the life of the mother (Rosner 1978, 257-259). While the fetus is potential human life and deserving of special moral consideration and protection, it is not regarded as independent human life; it is a part of the body of the mother and has no ‘legal’ status of its own. Thus, in issues such as abortion, the presumption is always in favor of the mother. Jewish religious law permits abortion whenever the pregnancy poses a threat to the physical or, according to some interpretations to the psychological well-being of the mother (Feldman 1986, 79-90)….
“This earliest source of this teaching is found in the Torah….Later, in the rabbinic tradition, it was taught that if a woman has life-threatening difficulty in childbirth, the child should be aborted (Mishna, Oholot 7:6). Once its head has emerged, however, it may not be harmed. The Talmud explains that the embryo may be seen as a `pursuer’ and one is justified I defending one’s life against a pursuer….
“While the Talmud briefly discusses the issue of ensoulment, it dismisses it as ultimately unanswerable (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 110b). According to accepted Jewish teaching the soul enters at birth, and this matter is irrelevant to the question of abortion, since the life and health of the mother are the issues at stake.[iii]
Can anyone doubt, having read the conclusions of the Indiana University report, that the rationale for legal abortion and for partial birth abortion is Jewish? Even the United States Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade took the side of the Jews when it decided that the unborn could be destroyed since it is not a human being and life had not yet begun: “There has always been strong support for the view that life does not begin until live birth. This was the belief of the Stoics. It appears to be the predominant, though not the unanimous, attitude of the Jewish faith.” Id., 410 US 113, 160.
The Supreme Court in Roe referred on at least five occasions to Abortion, a book by Lawrence Lader, a Jew,[iv] and a bitter opponent of the Roman Catholic Church. Justice Blackmun noted the book with authority when discussing the history of abortion particularly as it was “practiced in Greek times as well as in the Roman era, and that ‘it was resorted to without scruple’” (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 130). Blackmun also referred to Abortion as authority for the statements that abortion was not an indictable offense under the common law and that the states had enacted laws limiting the same around the time of the American Civil War (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 139). Perhaps most significantly, Blackmun cited Lader’s book as authority for the proposition that “Mortality rates for women undergoing early abortions, where the procedure is legal, appear to be as low as or lower than the rates for normal childbirth. Consequently, any interest of the state in protecting the woman from an inherently hazardous procedure, except when it would be equally dangerous for her to forgo it, has largely disappeared” (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 149). And, perhaps equally significantly Blackmun accepted Lader’s argument that opposition to abortion was only a Catholic thing (Roe v. Wade 410 US, at 160).
According to Lader’s obituary in The Washington Post on May 11, 2006, he tried to destroy the tax status of the Roman Catholic Church for opposing abortion. His book, Abortion, was published in 1966 and made the argument for the legalization of abortion, while also presenting the Jewish position on abortion. Lader wrote:
Although Judaism has no central authority, and its congregations are organized into three branches, Orthodox, Conservative, and Reformed, often differing in interpretation of Jewish tradition, its position on the beginnings of human life contrasts sharply with Catholic theology.
“Judaism has never been concerned with the concept of soul and the moment of its infusion in the fetus; nor does it treat the fetus as a human entity apart from its mother. (p. 97)
Lader explained that the “‘…fetus is part of its mother, and just as a person may choose to sacrifice a limb of his body in order to be cured of a worse malady, so may the fetus be destroyed for the sake of its mother,’ [Rabbi Israel] Margolies concludes….The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated: ‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child insider her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.’….”[v]
It was the Talmud who gave authority to destroy the child in the womb of the mother: “The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated:
‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.”[vi]
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion < click
55,772,015 Abortions in America
cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb
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Once again, as always, wheels spinning off, unable to reply to the content of the post, http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/60682-return-jews-israel-14.html#post996204 but instead hoping and wishing that a blizzard of unrelated words and subjects will somehow hide the simple truth, regarding the Islamic conquest of the world she has chosen to side with.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61666-mark-beast-4.html#post994876
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61666-mark-beast-4.html#post994876
JESUS OF NAZARETH:
John 16:33
I have overcome the world
It was the Talmud who gave authority to destroy the child in the womb of the mother:
“The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated:
‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.”[vi]
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion < click
It was the [Jewish Babylonian] Talmud
who gave authority
to destroy the child
in the womb
of the mother
55,772,015 Abortions in America
cut up the child
inside her womb
and take it out
limb by limb
we're not allowed to talk about Jewish Crimes are we Pete.
crimes against Christians....and how The Bible said they please not God and are contrary to ALL MEN.
because the Jews were persecuted and six million were killed, gassed to death in the Holocaust, right?
so shut up and talk about Islam...right?
WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT OTHER BIG LIE TOO.
John 16:33
I have overcome the world
It was the Talmud who gave authority to destroy the child in the womb of the mother:
“The chief Talmudic source on abortion is the Mishna, a collection of early religious-legal decisions, in which it is stated:
‘A woman that is having difficulty in giving birth is permitted to cut up the child inside her womb and take it out limb by limb because her life takes precedence.”[vi]
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion < click
It was the [Jewish Babylonian] Talmud
who gave authority
to destroy the child
in the womb
of the mother
55,772,015 Abortions in America
cut up the child
inside her womb
and take it out
limb by limb
we're not allowed to talk about Jewish Crimes are we Pete.
crimes against Christians....and how The Bible said they please not God and are contrary to ALL MEN.
because the Jews were persecuted and six million were killed, gassed to death in the Holocaust, right?
so shut up and talk about Islam...right?
WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT OTHER BIG LIE TOO.
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An Internet search of the Talmud, reveals many sites where Jews patiently explain that Jews do not consider the Talmud inspired, or part of their worship, and even some question regarding Jesus even being in the Talmud. When we do a search like - jesus in the talmud - what we find are Jews patiently explaining it, while self-proclaimed Christians like David Duke and the KKK, Ted Pike and those in the "Christian Identity" movement, out there thumping the Talmud while assigning beliefs to faithful YHWH worshiping Jews that walk in the Spirit of God. Our scriptures help us discriminate regarding the spiritual state of any Jew that is capable of calling Jesus accursed:
1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Since you are assigning beliefs to Jews from books that they do not believe to be inspired, in the mold of David Duke and the KKK, skinheads, Nazis, Ted Pike and Christian Identity, then it would be perfectly fair consistent for Jews to assign to you, that you believe in an angel named Maroni, and that you believe that God dwells near a star named Kolob, and you believe you will rule your own planet some day, and even assign to you that you wear funny underwear as a result.
I already tried to warn you about the road you have chosen, by pointing out what happened to another self-proclaimed Christian Talmud thumper - Ted Pike, and his poor wife.
However tragically, based on your predatory unchristian behavior, proclaiming God's judgments against persons, false accusations and false characterizations of forum members, demonization of Christians outside this forum, and continuing in an abject inability to offer substantive responses to the the content of posts, from all appearances you are already a long way down the same road that Ted and His wife went down. I'm sorry, but again, I am instructed to turn away from such. All my replies would accomplish is to help you push yourself further down that road.
For the benefit of other partial preterist punitive supersessionist forum members that are tempted to encourage her, I would hope you would seriously consider Ted's account of what happened to he and his poor wife, that by all indications would suggest they stepped out from under God's protection, before you head down that same road with Zone.
Ted Pike: My Wife Died a Martyr for God and Freedom
1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Since you are assigning beliefs to Jews from books that they do not believe to be inspired, in the mold of David Duke and the KKK, skinheads, Nazis, Ted Pike and Christian Identity, then it would be perfectly fair consistent for Jews to assign to you, that you believe in an angel named Maroni, and that you believe that God dwells near a star named Kolob, and you believe you will rule your own planet some day, and even assign to you that you wear funny underwear as a result.
I already tried to warn you about the road you have chosen, by pointing out what happened to another self-proclaimed Christian Talmud thumper - Ted Pike, and his poor wife.
However tragically, based on your predatory unchristian behavior, proclaiming God's judgments against persons, false accusations and false characterizations of forum members, demonization of Christians outside this forum, and continuing in an abject inability to offer substantive responses to the the content of posts, from all appearances you are already a long way down the same road that Ted and His wife went down. I'm sorry, but again, I am instructed to turn away from such. All my replies would accomplish is to help you push yourself further down that road.
For the benefit of other partial preterist punitive supersessionist forum members that are tempted to encourage her, I would hope you would seriously consider Ted's account of what happened to he and his poor wife, that by all indications would suggest they stepped out from under God's protection, before you head down that same road with Zone.
Ted Pike: My Wife Died a Martyr for God and Freedom
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Genesis 9:6
Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.
Deuteronomy 18:10
Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,
Deuteronomy 19:10
Do this so that innocent blood will not be shed in your land, which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty of bloodshed.
Numbers 35:33
Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.
Jeremiah 2:7
I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and made my inheritance detestable
Jeremiah 3:2
"Look up to the barren heights and see. Is there any place where you have not been ravished? By the roadside you sat waiting for lovers, sat like a nomad in the desert. You have defiled the land with your prostitution and wickedness
Psalm 106:38
They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood.
Jeremiah 19:5
They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal--something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.
Ezekiel 16:20
"'And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough?
ANYTHING EVER SUGGESTED THAT GODS PEOPLE ARE EVER ALLOWED IN THE LAND THEY HAVE POLLUTED...AND WHEN THEY ARE IN REBELLION AND UNBELIEF...
SHOW ME PETE.
show me something NOT fulfilled by Jesus Christ for Israel who believed.
show me anything saying cut off branches or gentile converts to Talmudic Judaism have any claim on anything.
Deuteronomy 10:19
And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.
Exodus 22:21
"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
Leviticus 19:34
The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
Deuteronomy 23:7
Do not despise an Edomite, for the Edomites are related to you. Do not despise an Egyptian, because you resided as foreigners in their country.
HAARETZ
Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work
While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us.
By Gideon Levy | May.12, 2011 | 2:04 AM | 66
It happened on the day after Independence Day, when Israel was immersed in praise of itself and its democracy almost ad nauseam, and on the eve of (virtually outlawed ) Nakba Day, when the Palestinian people mark the "catastrophe" - the anniversary of the creation of Israel. My colleague Akiva Eldar published what we have always known but for which we lacked the shocking figures he revealed: By the time of the Oslo Accords, Israel had revoked the residency of 140,000 Palestinians from the West Bank. In other words, 14 percent of West Bank residents who dared to go abroad had their right to return to Israel and live here denied forever. In other words, they were expelled from their land and their homes. In other words: ethnic cleansing.
While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us. Also with us is the goal of trying to cleanse this land of its Arab inhabitants as much as possible, and even a bit more. After all, that's the most covert and desired solution: the Land of Israel for the Jews, for them alone. A few people dared to say it outright - Rabbi Meir Kahane, Minister Rehavam Ze'evi and their disciples, who deserve a certain amount of praise for their integrity. Many aspire to do the same thing without admitting it.
The revelation of the policy of denying residency has proved that this secret dream is in effect the establishment's secret dream. There one doesn't talk about transfer, heaven forfend; nobody would think of calling it cleansing. They don't load Arabs onto trucks as they once did, including after the Six-Day War, and they don't shoot at them to chase them away - all politically incorrect methods in the new world. But in effect that's the goal.
Some people think it's enough if we make the lives of the Palestinians in the territories miserable to get them to leave, and many have in fact left. An Israeli success: According to the Civil Administration, about a quarter of a million Palestinians voluntarily left the West Bank in the bloody years 2000-2007. But that's not enough, so various and sundry administrative means were added to make the dream come true.
Anyone who says "it's not apartheid" is invited to reply: Why is an Israeli allowed to leave his country for the rest of his life, and nobody suggests that his citizenship be revoked, while a Palestinian, a native son, is not allowed to do so? Why is an Israeli allowed to marry a foreigner and receive a residency permit for her, while a Palestinian is not allowed to marry his former neighbor who lives in Jordan? Isn't that apartheid? Over the years I have documented endless pitiful tragedies of families that were torn apart, whose sons and daughters were not permitted to live in the West Bank or Gaza due to draconian rules - for Palestinians only.
Take Dalal Rasras, for example, a toddler with cerebral palsy from Beit Omar, who was recently separated from her mother for months only because her mother was born in Rafah. Only after her case was publicized did Israel let the mother return to her daughter "beyond the letter of the law" - the cruel letter of the law that does not permit residents of Gaza to live in the West Bank, even if they have made their homes there.
The cry of the dispossessed has now been translated into numbers: 140,000, only until the Oslo Accords. Students who went to study at foreign universities, businessmen who tried their luck abroad, scientists who went abroad for professional training, native Jerusalemites who dared to move to the West Bank temporarily - they all met the same fate. All of them were taken by the wind and expelled by Israel. They couldn't return.
Most amazing of all is the reaction of those responsible for the policy of ethnic cleansing. They didn't know. Maj. Gen. (res. ) Danny Rothschild, formerly the chief military governor with the euphemistic title "coordinator of government activities in the territories," said he heard about the procedure for the first time from Haaretz. It turns out that not only is the cleansing continuing, so is the denial. Every Palestinian child knows, and only the general doesn't. Even today there are still 130,000 Palestinians registered as "NLR," a heartwarming IDF acronym for "no longer a resident," as though voluntarily, another euphemism for "expelled." And the general who is considered relatively enlightened was unaware.
This is an absolute refusal to allow the return of the refugees - something that would "destroy the State of Israel." It's also an absolute refusal to allow the return of the people recently expelled. By next Independence Day we'll probably invent more expulsion regulations, and on the next holiday we'll talk about "the only democracy."
http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...palestinians-or-democratic-israel-at-work-1.3 ' click
Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.
Deuteronomy 18:10
Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,
Deuteronomy 19:10
Do this so that innocent blood will not be shed in your land, which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty of bloodshed.
Numbers 35:33
Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.
Jeremiah 2:7
I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and made my inheritance detestable
Jeremiah 3:2
"Look up to the barren heights and see. Is there any place where you have not been ravished? By the roadside you sat waiting for lovers, sat like a nomad in the desert. You have defiled the land with your prostitution and wickedness
Psalm 106:38
They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood.
Jeremiah 19:5
They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal--something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.
Ezekiel 16:20
"'And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough?
ANYTHING EVER SUGGESTED THAT GODS PEOPLE ARE EVER ALLOWED IN THE LAND THEY HAVE POLLUTED...AND WHEN THEY ARE IN REBELLION AND UNBELIEF...
SHOW ME PETE.
show me something NOT fulfilled by Jesus Christ for Israel who believed.
show me anything saying cut off branches or gentile converts to Talmudic Judaism have any claim on anything.
Deuteronomy 10:19
And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.
Exodus 22:21
"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
Leviticus 19:34
The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
Deuteronomy 23:7
Do not despise an Edomite, for the Edomites are related to you. Do not despise an Egyptian, because you resided as foreigners in their country.
HAARETZ
Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work
While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us.
By Gideon Levy | May.12, 2011 | 2:04 AM | 66
It happened on the day after Independence Day, when Israel was immersed in praise of itself and its democracy almost ad nauseam, and on the eve of (virtually outlawed ) Nakba Day, when the Palestinian people mark the "catastrophe" - the anniversary of the creation of Israel. My colleague Akiva Eldar published what we have always known but for which we lacked the shocking figures he revealed: By the time of the Oslo Accords, Israel had revoked the residency of 140,000 Palestinians from the West Bank. In other words, 14 percent of West Bank residents who dared to go abroad had their right to return to Israel and live here denied forever. In other words, they were expelled from their land and their homes. In other words: ethnic cleansing.
While we are still desperately concealing, denying and repressing our major ethnic cleansing of 1948 - over 600,000 refugees, some who fled for fear of the Israel Defense Forces and its predecessors, some who were expelled by force - it turns out that 1948 never ended, that its spirit is still with us. Also with us is the goal of trying to cleanse this land of its Arab inhabitants as much as possible, and even a bit more. After all, that's the most covert and desired solution: the Land of Israel for the Jews, for them alone. A few people dared to say it outright - Rabbi Meir Kahane, Minister Rehavam Ze'evi and their disciples, who deserve a certain amount of praise for their integrity. Many aspire to do the same thing without admitting it.
The revelation of the policy of denying residency has proved that this secret dream is in effect the establishment's secret dream. There one doesn't talk about transfer, heaven forfend; nobody would think of calling it cleansing. They don't load Arabs onto trucks as they once did, including after the Six-Day War, and they don't shoot at them to chase them away - all politically incorrect methods in the new world. But in effect that's the goal.
Some people think it's enough if we make the lives of the Palestinians in the territories miserable to get them to leave, and many have in fact left. An Israeli success: According to the Civil Administration, about a quarter of a million Palestinians voluntarily left the West Bank in the bloody years 2000-2007. But that's not enough, so various and sundry administrative means were added to make the dream come true.
Anyone who says "it's not apartheid" is invited to reply: Why is an Israeli allowed to leave his country for the rest of his life, and nobody suggests that his citizenship be revoked, while a Palestinian, a native son, is not allowed to do so? Why is an Israeli allowed to marry a foreigner and receive a residency permit for her, while a Palestinian is not allowed to marry his former neighbor who lives in Jordan? Isn't that apartheid? Over the years I have documented endless pitiful tragedies of families that were torn apart, whose sons and daughters were not permitted to live in the West Bank or Gaza due to draconian rules - for Palestinians only.
Take Dalal Rasras, for example, a toddler with cerebral palsy from Beit Omar, who was recently separated from her mother for months only because her mother was born in Rafah. Only after her case was publicized did Israel let the mother return to her daughter "beyond the letter of the law" - the cruel letter of the law that does not permit residents of Gaza to live in the West Bank, even if they have made their homes there.
The cry of the dispossessed has now been translated into numbers: 140,000, only until the Oslo Accords. Students who went to study at foreign universities, businessmen who tried their luck abroad, scientists who went abroad for professional training, native Jerusalemites who dared to move to the West Bank temporarily - they all met the same fate. All of them were taken by the wind and expelled by Israel. They couldn't return.
Most amazing of all is the reaction of those responsible for the policy of ethnic cleansing. They didn't know. Maj. Gen. (res. ) Danny Rothschild, formerly the chief military governor with the euphemistic title "coordinator of government activities in the territories," said he heard about the procedure for the first time from Haaretz. It turns out that not only is the cleansing continuing, so is the denial. Every Palestinian child knows, and only the general doesn't. Even today there are still 130,000 Palestinians registered as "NLR," a heartwarming IDF acronym for "no longer a resident," as though voluntarily, another euphemism for "expelled." And the general who is considered relatively enlightened was unaware.
This is an absolute refusal to allow the return of the refugees - something that would "destroy the State of Israel." It's also an absolute refusal to allow the return of the people recently expelled. By next Independence Day we'll probably invent more expulsion regulations, and on the next holiday we'll talk about "the only democracy."
http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...palestinians-or-democratic-israel-at-work-1.3 ' click
thats all you have.
you may use those cards as often as you like
every time you use them it signals coverup, intimidation, and lies.
keep using them.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
dont worry your little heart one moment about me.
be careful about making threats pete.
threats and intimidation.
it shows you have NOTHING.
but you have made LIES your refuge.
and your refuge will not cover your deeds, nor the deeds of those who you approve of.
God is not protecting The Talmudic idolators like you. JESUS CONDEMNED THEM.
the JDL might protect them.
but they have not God either. just more barbarism.
The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a Jewish militant organization whose stated goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary".[1] While the group asserts that it "unequivocally condemns terrorism" and states that it has a "strict no-tolerance policy against terrorism and other felonious acts,"[2] it was described as "a right-wing terrorist group" by the FBI in 2001.[3][4] According to the FBI, the JDL has been involved in plotting and executing numerous acts of terrorism within the United States.[3]
Founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane in New York City in 1968, JDL's self-described purpose was to protect Jews from local manifestations of antisemitism.[1][5] Its criticism of the Soviet Union garnered support for the group, transforming it from a "vigilante club" into an organization with stated membership numbering over 15,000 at one point.[6] The group took to bombing Arab and Soviet properties in the United States,[7] and targeting various alleged "enemies of the Jewish people", ranging from Arab-American political activists to neo-Nazis, for assassination.[8] A number of JDL members have been linked to violent, and sometimes deadly, attacks in the United States and in other countries, including the murder of American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee regional director Alex Odeh in 1985, the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre in 1994, and a plot to assassinate Congressman Darrell Issa in 2001.[9] The National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism's database of identified terrorist organizations, which is compiled by official contractors and consultants to the United States government and is supported by the Department of Homeland Security, identifies the JDL as a "former terrorist organization".[10] The JDL's website states that it rejects terrorism.[11]
According to the Anti-Defamation League, the JDL consists only of "thugs and hooligans"[12] and the group's founder, Meir Kahane, "preached a radical form of Jewish nationalism which reflected racism, violence and political extremism,"[1] attitudes that were replicated by Irv Rubin, the successor to Kahane.[13] In 2002, the Southern Poverty Law Center added the Jewish Defense League to its list of watched hate groups for the JDL's "long history of bombing, assaulting and threatening its perceived enemies" such as "the Soviet Union, neo-Nazi activists, Palestinian leaders, prominent black Americans and even Jewish moderates" as well as other Jewish radicals, and stated that the JDL "claims to have 13,000 members, but apparently has a few dozen at best."[4]
In 1994, the JDL's sister movements Kach and Kahane Chai were both outlawed in Israel as terrorist organizations posing a threat to state security.[14] They are also banned in the United States, European Union and Canada.
Jewish Defense League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - click
are you turning away again now Pete....let me know.
you may use those cards as often as you like
every time you use them it signals coverup, intimidation, and lies.
keep using them.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
dont worry your little heart one moment about me.
be careful about making threats pete.
threats and intimidation.
it shows you have NOTHING.
but you have made LIES your refuge.
and your refuge will not cover your deeds, nor the deeds of those who you approve of.
God is not protecting The Talmudic idolators like you. JESUS CONDEMNED THEM.
the JDL might protect them.
but they have not God either. just more barbarism.
The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a Jewish militant organization whose stated goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary".[1] While the group asserts that it "unequivocally condemns terrorism" and states that it has a "strict no-tolerance policy against terrorism and other felonious acts,"[2] it was described as "a right-wing terrorist group" by the FBI in 2001.[3][4] According to the FBI, the JDL has been involved in plotting and executing numerous acts of terrorism within the United States.[3]
Founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane in New York City in 1968, JDL's self-described purpose was to protect Jews from local manifestations of antisemitism.[1][5] Its criticism of the Soviet Union garnered support for the group, transforming it from a "vigilante club" into an organization with stated membership numbering over 15,000 at one point.[6] The group took to bombing Arab and Soviet properties in the United States,[7] and targeting various alleged "enemies of the Jewish people", ranging from Arab-American political activists to neo-Nazis, for assassination.[8] A number of JDL members have been linked to violent, and sometimes deadly, attacks in the United States and in other countries, including the murder of American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee regional director Alex Odeh in 1985, the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre in 1994, and a plot to assassinate Congressman Darrell Issa in 2001.[9] The National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism's database of identified terrorist organizations, which is compiled by official contractors and consultants to the United States government and is supported by the Department of Homeland Security, identifies the JDL as a "former terrorist organization".[10] The JDL's website states that it rejects terrorism.[11]
According to the Anti-Defamation League, the JDL consists only of "thugs and hooligans"[12] and the group's founder, Meir Kahane, "preached a radical form of Jewish nationalism which reflected racism, violence and political extremism,"[1] attitudes that were replicated by Irv Rubin, the successor to Kahane.[13] In 2002, the Southern Poverty Law Center added the Jewish Defense League to its list of watched hate groups for the JDL's "long history of bombing, assaulting and threatening its perceived enemies" such as "the Soviet Union, neo-Nazi activists, Palestinian leaders, prominent black Americans and even Jewish moderates" as well as other Jewish radicals, and stated that the JDL "claims to have 13,000 members, but apparently has a few dozen at best."[4]
In 1994, the JDL's sister movements Kach and Kahane Chai were both outlawed in Israel as terrorist organizations posing a threat to state security.[14] They are also banned in the United States, European Union and Canada.
Jewish Defense League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - click
are you turning away again now Pete....let me know.
Marxists.org
Jews, Marxism and the Worker’s Movement
A subject index of texts from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Leon and Luxemburg; texts from the Jewish Socialist and Labor Movement and the effect on the Jewish working class of the Russian Revolution
Jews, Marxism and the Worker's Movement
The Israeli state is engaged in brutal violence against the Palestinian population and has killed hundreds of Palestinians over the past few months. In 1982 revolutionary socialist Tony Cliff, who died a year ago this month, wrote this explanation of why Israel acts in this way. He was writing just after Israel had invaded Lebanon and carried out massacres of both Lebanese and refugee Palestinians.
Looking back on my own experience in Palestine I can see how today’s horror grew from small beginnings. Zionism, Jewish separateness and the belief in a Jewish homeland, have developed into state violence. My parents were pioneering Zionists, leaving Russia for Palestine in 1902 to join a total Zionist population of a few thousand.
I grew up a Zionist, but Zionism didn’t have the ugly face we see today. However, there was always a fundamental crack between the Zionists and the Arabs. This same crack split Zionists from ordinary people in their countries of origin.
If you look to 19th century Russia it’s clear. In 1891 Tsar Alexander II was assassinated. The next year Russia’s extreme right organised a pogrom against the Jews. “Kill a Jew and save Russia,” they said. Socialists reacted by calling for unity in fighting Tsarism and the right. But there was a second reaction-Zionism. The Zionists argued, “Jews can’t rely on anyone but ourselves,” and the first of them left Russia for Palestine. Each further pogrom produced the same two reactions. Some joined the general revolutionary movement – others chose separation.
When the Zionists came to Palestine they continued to emphasise their separateness. Zionists took over Arab land, often evicting the occupiers. And the Zionists systematically discriminated against the thousands of Arab unemployed. Although Arabs were at least 80 percent of the population, not one came to my school.
My parents were extreme Zionists, and my father told me, “The only way to look at an Arab is through the sight of a gun.” I never shared a house with an Arab.
Tony Cliff: Roots of Israel's violence (1982) - click
The Zionists argued, “Jews can’t rely on anyone but ourselves
WHERE IS GOD
Jews, Marxism and the Worker’s Movement
A subject index of texts from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Leon and Luxemburg; texts from the Jewish Socialist and Labor Movement and the effect on the Jewish working class of the Russian Revolution
Jews, Marxism and the Worker's Movement
The Israeli state is engaged in brutal violence against the Palestinian population and has killed hundreds of Palestinians over the past few months. In 1982 revolutionary socialist Tony Cliff, who died a year ago this month, wrote this explanation of why Israel acts in this way. He was writing just after Israel had invaded Lebanon and carried out massacres of both Lebanese and refugee Palestinians.
Looking back on my own experience in Palestine I can see how today’s horror grew from small beginnings. Zionism, Jewish separateness and the belief in a Jewish homeland, have developed into state violence. My parents were pioneering Zionists, leaving Russia for Palestine in 1902 to join a total Zionist population of a few thousand.
I grew up a Zionist, but Zionism didn’t have the ugly face we see today. However, there was always a fundamental crack between the Zionists and the Arabs. This same crack split Zionists from ordinary people in their countries of origin.
If you look to 19th century Russia it’s clear. In 1891 Tsar Alexander II was assassinated. The next year Russia’s extreme right organised a pogrom against the Jews. “Kill a Jew and save Russia,” they said. Socialists reacted by calling for unity in fighting Tsarism and the right. But there was a second reaction-Zionism. The Zionists argued, “Jews can’t rely on anyone but ourselves,” and the first of them left Russia for Palestine. Each further pogrom produced the same two reactions. Some joined the general revolutionary movement – others chose separation.
When the Zionists came to Palestine they continued to emphasise their separateness. Zionists took over Arab land, often evicting the occupiers. And the Zionists systematically discriminated against the thousands of Arab unemployed. Although Arabs were at least 80 percent of the population, not one came to my school.
My parents were extreme Zionists, and my father told me, “The only way to look at an Arab is through the sight of a gun.” I never shared a house with an Arab.
Tony Cliff: Roots of Israel's violence (1982) - click
The Zionists argued, “Jews can’t rely on anyone but ourselves
WHERE IS GOD
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If you had read the post you would see that it had to do with self-proclaimed Christians thumping the Talmud and assigning beliefs to all Jews, that many protest that they do not hold, from books that Jews consider uninspired. I pointed out what happened to Ted Pike, as a warning to those that do the same.
Ted Pike: My Wife Died a Martyr for God and Freedom
Would you like it if a Jew insisted on assigning beliefs to you, in spite of your protestations, that you believe in an angel named Maroni, and that you believe that God dwells near a star named Kolob, and you believe you will rule your own planet some day, and proclaim that your wife wears funny underwear as a result?
Ted Pike: My Wife Died a Martyr for God and Freedom
Would you like it if a Jew insisted on assigning beliefs to you, in spite of your protestations, that you believe in an angel named Maroni, and that you believe that God dwells near a star named Kolob, and you believe you will rule your own planet some day, and proclaim that your wife wears funny underwear as a result?
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