The Temple Of God
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Why are you being condescending?
Or are you trying to sound clever?
My general advice is if you cannot understand something, then skip it and move on. Not being harsh, but I don't play games, and I don't in normal life waste time with gameplayers
Or are you trying to sound clever?
My general advice is if you cannot understand something, then skip it and move on. Not being harsh, but I don't play games, and I don't in normal life waste time with gameplayers
We've been over this previously, remember?
Your 'prophetic math' results in that 3 days = 3*4hrs = 12 hours ((Hebrew reckoning)) or 3 days = 9 hours ((Roman occupation reckoning)).
Unless you have some reason to completely ignore half a verse of Psalm 90 that i'm unaware of . . . ?
Your 'prophetic math' results in that 3 days = 3*4hrs = 12 hours ((Hebrew reckoning)) or 3 days = 9 hours ((Roman occupation reckoning)).
Unless you have some reason to completely ignore half a verse of Psalm 90 that i'm unaware of . . . ?
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This seems to be a good place to repeat what I said on the third temple thread with some additional comments. Julian the Apostate the last Pagan Emperor and Nephew of Constantine gave permission for the Jews to rebuild the Temple. He was anti Christian and tried to restore Paganism to the Empire. One reason he gave permission was to refute Christs words about the Temple and to re institute the sacrificial system thereby presenting Christ as a false Prophet. The re building started and stopped after fire balls appeared in the foundations burning the builders. An explanation has been put forward that they were due to an earthquake that happened in the Galilee region at the time, (363ad) Julian only reigned for three years and no attempt at rebuilding has been tried since. So anyone looking forward to a new temple may be disappointed.
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Or it was not the right time?
2 Thessalonians 2:6
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2 Thessalonians 2:6
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
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Spirits, whether it is the Spirit of Christ ,the Holy Spirit of God or lying spirts as demons that are in positions of a authority.. we do not wrestles against what we do see.(flesh and blood )
To sit is to rule after not a literal human position. God has no form no rear end to sit on. He is not a man as us.
The spiritual understanding hid from the lost must be sought after.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Above ....one place of authority . The Father and the Son.
The man of sin is any man who is deceived by Satan the father of lie who turn things upside down as if the things of God could come after the things of men.
The temple of God is Christ in us.The refomation has came and is still doing its work .
We have that treasure in us as new creatures but is not of us, as if we were God.
The one who turns things upside down would have men believe it was.
To sit is to rule after not a literal human position. God has no form no rear end to sit on. He is not a man as us.
The spiritual understanding hid from the lost must be sought after.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Above ....one place of authority . The Father and the Son.
The man of sin is any man who is deceived by Satan the father of lie who turn things upside down as if the things of God could come after the things of men.
The temple of God is Christ in us.The refomation has came and is still doing its work .
We have that treasure in us as new creatures but is not of us, as if we were God.
The one who turns things upside down would have men believe it was.
Please expand what/who/how the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire
please explain how men are found worshipping the beast and the dragon (who gave his power to the beast)
please explain the three unclean spirits which come out of the mouths of these three..where are they going and are they just floating around in the hidden invisible spiritual realm?
or will they gather real flesh of "supposed kings" for the battle and outward rebellion against THE LORD?
(Paul said do not let any man deceive you (do you think these whom Paul was speaking to weren't already battling spiritual forces by men who in ignorance were opposing what is good?)
paul was talking about a particular man of sin who would not and could not be revealed until HE who holds all things back is taken out of the way"
(when the "hedge" was removed, did Job suffer at the "hands of men and physical and real fleshly trouble"
Yes he did...
But who was behind these sufferings?
please explain how men are found worshipping the beast and the dragon (who gave his power to the beast)
please explain the three unclean spirits which come out of the mouths of these three..where are they going and are they just floating around in the hidden invisible spiritual realm?
or will they gather real flesh of "supposed kings" for the battle and outward rebellion against THE LORD?
(Paul said do not let any man deceive you (do you think these whom Paul was speaking to weren't already battling spiritual forces by men who in ignorance were opposing what is good?)
paul was talking about a particular man of sin who would not and could not be revealed until HE who holds all things back is taken out of the way"
(when the "hedge" was removed, did Job suffer at the "hands of men and physical and real fleshly trouble"
Yes he did...
But who was behind these sufferings?
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He is know every time a person is deceived into believing a lie.
When 1 John was written the man of sin Satan was there working in the hearts of men trying to destroy the gospel . He was there in the beginning with Cain who killed His brother Abel. His blood still cries out .
He is a murderer from the beginning who would desire that men would wrestle against flesh and blood as that seen (the decoy or wolf in lambs clothing.) Destroying the faith principle is his goal .
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
When 1 John was written the man of sin Satan was there working in the hearts of men trying to destroy the gospel . He was there in the beginning with Cain who killed His brother Abel. His blood still cries out .
He is a murderer from the beginning who would desire that men would wrestle against flesh and blood as that seen (the decoy or wolf in lambs clothing.) Destroying the faith principle is his goal .
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Being throne into the lake of fire is simply coming under the judgement of God . Fire like the burning bush or the furnace of fire spoken of in Dan would be a cleansing fire The work of the gospel.
The beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire denoting its the last day. Resurrection day, wake up call for those who have been given a new born again spirit that will be raised on the same last day .
The new heaven and earth is just over the horizon . The former things will not be remember or sever come to mind.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire denoting its the last day. Resurrection day, wake up call for those who have been given a new born again spirit that will be raised on the same last day .
The new heaven and earth is just over the horizon . The former things will not be remember or sever come to mind.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
You should take some time looking into the false prophet, the beast and the dragon
if you can't see that Satan is going to imitate the holy trinity by this unholy trinity, I advise you to reconsider
if men are found worshipping the beast and the dragon who have gave his power to the beast
tell me, is the beast a real fleshly man who will sit in a real visible temple declaring himself to be god?
if you can't see that Satan is going to imitate the holy trinity by this unholy trinity, I advise you to reconsider
if men are found worshipping the beast and the dragon who have gave his power to the beast
tell me, is the beast a real fleshly man who will sit in a real visible temple declaring himself to be god?
I am querying really BG, not asserting.
In the Temple Prophecy (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21), Jesus states that the Temple will be destroyed and sit as a ruin.
The disciples ask when will this be? i.e When will it be destroyed, and when will it be rebuilt? (or in other words, how long will it remain a ruin?)
Jesus replies to the effect that it will remain a ruin right up until his return.
The issue for me is whether (as Thessalonians suggests) the Temple is rebuilt which causes Jesus to return, or it simply lies a ruin until Jesus returns.
I am interested in what you see in Zechariah
In the Temple Prophecy (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21), Jesus states that the Temple will be destroyed and sit as a ruin.
The disciples ask when will this be? i.e When will it be destroyed, and when will it be rebuilt? (or in other words, how long will it remain a ruin?)
Jesus replies to the effect that it will remain a ruin right up until his return.
The issue for me is whether (as Thessalonians suggests) the Temple is rebuilt which causes Jesus to return, or it simply lies a ruin until Jesus returns.
I am interested in what you see in Zechariah
Ah I think I see what you are getting at, you mean that the time of Gentiles would end when it is rebuilt? This is a hot topic issue, one thing I do not want to be wrong on is the temple, if it is or is not of God.
What I see in Zechariah is this:
Zechariah 6:13 "Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."
It also says in verse 15 that "And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD..."
Granted, it is possible for the temple in Zechariah 6 to be spiritualized.
What I see in Zechariah is this:
Zechariah 6:13 "Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."
It also says in verse 15 that "And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD..."
Granted, it is possible for the temple in Zechariah 6 to be spiritualized.
"Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you (Moses) may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”
"At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it."
"He (Jesus) went and took the scroll from the right hand of him (the Father) who sat on the throne .
If you have a throne, you would have to have a rear to sin on it with.