THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

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psychomom

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"Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."

Indeed, referring to those who refuse the Mark, and remain steadfast in the hands of God. :)

Here is what the expositor Gill says about that.
here are they that keep the commandments of God; and not the inventions of men, and the traditions of antichrist, but the ordinances of the Gospel, as they were at first delivered, without any adulteration and corruption; and who kept them because they were enjoined by God, and from a principle of love to him, and with a view to his glory:

Pretty cool, right? :)
 

loveme1

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#82
"Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."

Indeed, referring to those who refuse the Mark, and remain steadfast in the hands of God. :)

Here is what the expositor Gill says about that.
here are they that keep the commandments of God; and not the inventions of men, and the traditions of antichrist, but the ordinances of the Gospel, as they were at first delivered, without any adulteration and corruption; and who kept them because they were enjoined by God, and from a principle of love to him, and with a view to his glory:

Pretty cool, right? :)
I do not agree, for the Commandments of Yahvah God were his commandments and not an invention of man.

There is too much adding going on there for me.

You may adhere to that but i do not.

I can not ignore the Truth in favor of that explanation.

That is where my heart is.
 
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psychomom

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#83
I do not agree, for the Commandments of Yahvah God were his commandments and not an invention of man.

There is too much adding going on there for me.

You may adhere to that but i do not.

I can not ignore the Truth in favor of that explanation.

That is where my heart is.
An invention of man?
Of course not!
Do you disagree we should follow the commands of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
I think that's what he was saying.
At least, that's what I meant by it.
 

loveme1

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#84
An invention of man?
Of course not!
Do you disagree we should follow the commands of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
I think that's what he was saying.
At least, that's what I meant by it.
Yes, all of it.
 

JaumeJ

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#85
We should always obey Jesus, Who in turn obeyed the Father. If He is our Example, we should do our very best to do as He did, not that we could every achieve His perfection. He will finish the work He began in each of us on His Day, and we will be perfect and just like Yeshua.

The curse of the law being crucified with our Lord makes Yahweh's commandments light for our way and they are no longer death. If anyone wishes, scroll up and read my last post, it goes with this post. No, we cannot save ourselves by our own conduct, but the least we can do is obey what we know to obey.

Teaching against obeying the commandments is anti-Christ, and there are inventions of man being taught as commandment from the Lord. Avoid them at all costs. Disobedience is idolatry.
 

loveme1

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#86
My Bible is both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

i will say i'm with out any excuse to not know what the Commandments of Yahvah God are.

We are given the Bible Old and New Testament to read and learn from.
 

JaumeJ

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#87
The spirit of the anti-Christ works very hard to divide and weaken the children of Yahweh. You are all in Yeshua, Jesus, and you all share the gift of the Cross, the free gift of salvation.

I see that many times people seem to be disputing when they are actually in firm agreement. This has happened to me too I believe, right here in this post.

There is never wrong in obeying our Father as did our Savior, and in obeying the Father we are in accordance with the Son and the Holy Spirit; they really are One. Believe this. As LoveMe has well expressed, the two Books of the Bible really are One Book containing the volumes of teaching from God that we should study so we be found approved.

Lively discussion shows passion, and I believe the passion here is for our Savior. The love in this room will overcome, for God is Love, amen.
 

Zmouth

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Seems that depending upon what particular "fate" one holds, so too is what 10 Commandments that they subscribe too.

The Protestants have their set of 10 Commandments, the Catholics theirs, and the Jews theirs. (So who is right, or is there really any wrong faith?)


O, if one would carefully listen to those words that were written in stone, by these two immutable things being that GOD cannot lie, the Spirit will lead you to understand the truth of the other 9 Commandments and how you can hold strong confidence in the refuge of the Gospel from the law of death and sin by the law of truth revealed in 10 Commandments.


So, any guesses on what the 9th Commandment is?
[Clue: If man can not live by bread alone, guess he should have ate from the tree of life]
 
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JaumeJ

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Seems that depending upon what particular "fate" one holds, so too is what 10 Commandments that they subscribe too.

The Protestants have their set of 10 Commandments, the Catholics theirs, and the Jews theirs. (So who is right, or is there really any wrong faith?)


O, if one would carefully listen to those words that were written in stone, by these two immutable things being that GOD cannot lie, the Spirit will lead you to understand the truth of the other 9 Commandments and how you can hold strong confidence in the refuge of the Gospel from the law of death and sin by the law of truth revealed in 10 Commandments.


So, any guesses on what the 9th Commandment is?
[Clue: If man can not live by bread alone, guess he should have ate from the tree of life]
To the best of my knowledge, and from reading in various languages, the Ten Commandments are the same for the RCC, the protestants, and the Jews. Now, as pertaining to various dogmas and what each may have added or taken from them I do not know. It is my heart's desire to remain faithful to all of the Word as it is written.
 

loveme1

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Without the Son of Yahvah God they remain written in stone.

While they are written in stone and not on the heart they remain far from a person.
 

gotime

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Without the Son of Yahvah God they remain written in stone.

While they are written in stone and not on the heart they remain far from a person.
Praise God for this great and wonderful gift through Jesus our Lord.
 
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feedm3

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#94
"The mark of the Beast"? is it the star of David flying on the Isreal flag. Hexagram, 3 6's every angle?

Why do they even have that star as their symbol? Never mentioned in scripture, the only symbol that could be related to them was the menorah, which represents 7, not 6.



Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon

Just something I been thinking about, sorry if off topic.
 

JaumeJ

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"The mark of the Beast"? is it the star of David flying on the Isreal flag. Hexagram, 3 6's every angle?

Why do they even have that star as their symbol? Never mentioned in scripture, the only symbol that could be related to them was the menorah, which represents 7, not 6.



Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon

Just something I been thinking about, sorry if off topic.
Perhaps you have heard the term "mogan David." It is a kosher wine brand, but in Hebrew it means "David's Shield."

Many years ago I researched the star of David, as it is also used, and in the Encylopedia Hebraica or Judaica, which escapes me at present, I found this explanation of the origin.

The Babylonian Star, six points, was favored by King David, and he had this design engraved on his shield, ergo mogan David, both shield of and star of David.

The star is of Babel, and probably in Babel it was dedicated to to the star goddess, but it was just a design to King David. Whether it was a design of someone else, I do not know.

This satisfied my curiosity in 1969. I hope it satisfies yours somewhat today. God bless you.
 
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feedm3

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Perhaps you have heard the term "mogan David." It is a kosher wine brand, but in Hebrew it means "David's Shield."

Many years ago I researched the star of David, as it is also used, and in the Encylopedia Hebraica or Judaica, which escapes me at present, I found this explanation of the origin.

The Babylonian Star, six points, was favored by King David, and he had this design engraved on his shield, ergo mogan David, both shield of and star of David.

The star is of Babel, and probably in Babel it was dedicated to to the star goddess, but it was just a design to King David. Whether it was a design of someone else, I do not know.

This satisfied my curiosity in 1969. I hope it satisfies yours somewhat today. God bless you.

Very interesting, thank you.
 

JaumeJ

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Very interesting, thank you.
Just a footnote on Babel. In English Babel is the capital city of Babylon, however in Hebrew the term, Babel, is used exclusively in referring to Babel or Babylon. The evolution of words and names can be fascinating, though I have not a clue at present why this came about. Yes! I a too am off subject, but, it is my post after all!
 
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psychomom

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But I fully agree. :)

oh, and just in case it didn't jump out at you..I think what Gill may have been (partially?) referring to in what he said (my post above)
was Colossians 2:16-17?

idk, though...thoughts, anyone?
 

loveme1

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But I fully agree. :)

oh, and just in case it didn't jump out at you..I think what Gill may have been (partially?) referring to in what he said (my post above)
was Colossians 2:16-17?

idk, though...thoughts, anyone?
Think of everything the Messiah spoke to us.



What was the Messiah referring to when he spoke?

The answer will come from within you.

What does he point us to?
 
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psychomom

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I will look. :)
But I think we need to keep in mind, too, that Jesus didn't finish speaking to us with the Gospels.
His Word goes beyond that, in the epistles and the revelation,
and if we don't have the whole counsel of God, we miss things.