THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

[loveme1]

I will look.
But I think we need to keep in mind, too, that Jesus didn't finish speaking to us with the Gospels.
His Word goes beyond that, in the epistles and the revelation,
and if we don't have the whole counsel of God, we miss things.

Completely agree with that.

Remember if the foundation is on good ground then nothing can come against us

Peace and Blessings in the name of Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[Abiding]

Perhaps you have heard the term "mogan David." It is a kosher wine brand, but in Hebrew it means "David's Shield."

Many years ago I researched the star of David, as it is also used, and in the Encylopedia Hebraica or Judaica, which escapes me at present, I found this explanation of the origin.

The Babylonian Star, six points, was favored by King David, and he had this design engraved on his shield, ergo mogan David, both shield of and star of David.

The star is of Babel, and probably in Babel it was dedicated to to the star goddess, but it was just a design to King David. Whether it was a design of someone else, I do not know.

This satisfied my curiosity in 1969. I hope it satisfies yours somewhat today. God bless you.

Actually David having a star is a myth starting about the 3rd century coming from the talmud
and even that had no shape mentioned.....about the 6th century it landed in the Kabbalah
in a shape that came from back in vedic cultures and many other places i wont mention...then
in the 12-14th centuries adopted by judiasm into the synogogues and as time went on so did the
myths till Rothchilds as others used it for magic and demon exorcisms. Ill leave out the very negative
parts of its adoption into zionism to protect the squeemish.

David i think would have been very selective in any symbols he used especially
ones with uses already by the false gods of his day....but then again this was never
heard of till after the 6th century with the kaballah. Ive found no other evidence that
this symbol was used at all by Israel. Just the occult and other false religious systems.

 

[JaumeJ]

Actually David having a star is a myth starting about the 3rd century coming from the talmud
and even that had no shape mentioned.....about the 6th century it landed in the Kabbalah
in a shape that came from back in vedic cultures and many other places i wont mention...then
in the 12-14th centuries adopted by judiasm into the synogogues and as time went on so did the
myths till Rothchilds as others used it for magic and demon exorcisms. Ill leave out the very negative
parts of its adoption into zionism to protect the squeemish.

David i think would have been very selective in any symbols he used especially
ones with uses already by the false gods of his day....but then again this was never
heard of till after the 6th century with the kaballah. Ive found no other evidence that
this symbol was used at all by Israel. Just the occult and other false religious systems.

The source for this information is the Encyclopedia Hebraica if I am not mistaken; the Encyclopedia Judaica was just about to be published at the time, 1969. I do not take any source as authoratative, be it scientific theory or an encyclopedia, but that was my source. I may have the Encyclopedia titles reversed.

Personally, I do not care where it came from, it is pagan to use images, and as you have stated, David would not have done such a thing. This I believe also.

I do not use the Kaballah or Talmud as a source for anything, I will not even read them. The Word is preserved for the children of Yahweh by Him in all its versions and languages. I will not follow rabbinical teachings either, just the Word..............

 

[RedTent]

Freedm3: Deu 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us,who are all of us here alive this day.

This included the 10 commandments, they are the only Laws mentioned in Chapter 5 here.

If God did not make this with their Fathers (Adam-Abraham-up to Moses) but only with those that were "here and alive this day", then it was a covenant for the Jews only, not the Gentiles. No gentiles were present.

We are not under any of the OT Laws, including the keeping of a Sabbath day.

Unless you are Jewish or consider yourself a proselyte, then Due 5 says this your not part of this covenant.

In fact the much of the NT Epistles are refuting this very idea, that any part of the Law should be kept.

When you turn the page from the OT to the NT you do not change God the Father. The world changed by what Christ did on the cross, we are saved through His blood not the blood of animals, but Christ did not change His Father or the characteristics of God.

The temple and the priests were not needed any more nor any of the laws pertaining to them, but the law of love remained the same. The emphasis was on how we believe rather than what we do. It is possible to obey the law of not stealing, for instance, from our brother while you hold a grudge against him. Christ said the grudge was wrong. But it is not possible to steal from your brother and still treat him with love. The law was added to, fulfilled, not done away with. We have forgiveness available, sin does not mean death. But you can't plan the next robbery as you ask forgiveness for the one you just did.

God created the Jewish race and used them to show His characteristics to us. We are to hold both the race God chose and God as He asked us to.

 

[zone]

God created the Jewish race and used them to show His characteristics to us. We are to hold both the race God chose and God as He asked us to.

jews are not "a race". they are a tribal group.

He chose a people from out of the nations, beginning with Abram, who was a gentile.

the whole Story leads to this:

Galatians 3:29
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

nothing more.

 

[JaumeJ]

jews are not "a race". they are a tribal group.

He chose a people from out of the nations, beginning with Abram, who was a gentile.

the whole Story leads to this:

Galatians 3:29
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

nothing more.

The word, race, has metamorphosed in its usage in my lifetime. As a child I was taught there are three main races, with sub-races branching from them however included in the three.

Growing up in California, I never thought of my neighbors, Mexicans, as non-white or as a different race, but this is probably just the way I think. When the Cesar Chavez movement was in full swing the saying, "Viva la raza" became popular in reference to Mexicans, and frankly I was shocked to hear Mexicans referring to themselves as a race. Cesar Chavez did a great service for all people in his struggle for Mexicans, unhappily a lot of what he accomplished has been reversed. It has become accepted in society to use the word, race, in varied degrees.

As a believer of Jesus, Yeshua, I believe we are from Adam then from Noah, one family of man, and in Yeshua, one family with Yahweh, God as our Father.

Abraham was the patriarch of the twelve tribes composing Israel, and with the above reasoning, I suppose Israel could be construed as a race, along with the tribe of Judah. This is not important, the Children of Israel were a nation, so perhaps we are being a little strict in our usage of words, or perhaps we are being too liberal. I know what is intended by experience, but perhaps others do not.