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They're good points but there might be other reasons why putting in the hand or forehead is not a good idea.
It doesn't say visible but that's what the word for stamp or brand implies. i.e. it can't mean the sign of the cross made with water in catholic churches because this is invisible, and it needs to be seen so that you can buy or sell with it.
There will also be the question of logistics with the chip, the whole world presumably has to take it, so I'm not sure how easy or how much it costs to get every person in a third world country, who don't even have a telephone, chipped up.
Yes it does make sense to have a chip with all your information on it, it is convenient, fast, and reliable and more secure than paper or plastic money that's why I like the idea.
When you think about it, we already live in a society by which we cannot buy or sell unless we have the right tender. You can't buy your groceries with a sack of potatos, and credit cards are no different to any mark of the beast the difference is it is in your wallet in your pocket instead of in your body. This mark, by which we cannot buy or sell, could have been with us for quite a while already - at least since the time when you had to use money to buy goods and could not buy them with your produce or other goods. Some have suggested that the mark is the visible etching or image on currency, in past times it was of the emperor or king, and still is today. Perhaps it's the queen of england, which all our coins have stamped on it, h we cannot buy or sell without it.
It doesn't say visible but that's what the word for stamp or brand implies. i.e. it can't mean the sign of the cross made with water in catholic churches because this is invisible, and it needs to be seen so that you can buy or sell with it.
There will also be the question of logistics with the chip, the whole world presumably has to take it, so I'm not sure how easy or how much it costs to get every person in a third world country, who don't even have a telephone, chipped up.
Yes it does make sense to have a chip with all your information on it, it is convenient, fast, and reliable and more secure than paper or plastic money that's why I like the idea.
When you think about it, we already live in a society by which we cannot buy or sell unless we have the right tender. You can't buy your groceries with a sack of potatos, and credit cards are no different to any mark of the beast the difference is it is in your wallet in your pocket instead of in your body. This mark, by which we cannot buy or sell, could have been with us for quite a while already - at least since the time when you had to use money to buy goods and could not buy them with your produce or other goods. Some have suggested that the mark is the visible etching or image on currency, in past times it was of the emperor or king, and still is today. Perhaps it's the queen of england, which all our coins have stamped on it, h we cannot buy or sell without it.
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The Great Tribulation as recorded in Matthew 24 took place exactly when Jesus said i would, within that generation. Even the generation which cried out, "Crucify Him! Let His blood be upon our hands and our childrens hands!"
AD 63 - AD 70. (encourage all to read Deuteronomy 28 also as well as Historian Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews. Josephus was eyewitness of Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, etc and records the worst events to have ever taken place in history. And he was not Christian, but Jewish captured by Romans, was a scribe and was to record everything he saw and that took place.) Then compare with what is recorded in Matthew 24.
Is great tribulation coming upon this world today? Possibly, it actually appears so. Is there a coming of Jesus Christ in our very near future? It appears so, yes.
Maybe we are living in the Gog/Magog generation as recorded in Revelation 20. As it appears true believers/the beloved city , New Jerusalem, is being surrounded on every side. Yet how can one be sure of future events and state them as fact? Many do and are found to be incorrect or false.
Best to search to see if such things are so.
Beloved.
In Christ,
David John (NewJerusalem)
AD 63 - AD 70. (encourage all to read Deuteronomy 28 also as well as Historian Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews. Josephus was eyewitness of Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, etc and records the worst events to have ever taken place in history. And he was not Christian, but Jewish captured by Romans, was a scribe and was to record everything he saw and that took place.) Then compare with what is recorded in Matthew 24.
Is great tribulation coming upon this world today? Possibly, it actually appears so. Is there a coming of Jesus Christ in our very near future? It appears so, yes.
Maybe we are living in the Gog/Magog generation as recorded in Revelation 20. As it appears true believers/the beloved city , New Jerusalem, is being surrounded on every side. Yet how can one be sure of future events and state them as fact? Many do and are found to be incorrect or false.
Best to search to see if such things are so.
Beloved.
In Christ,
David John (NewJerusalem)
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i will ask you the same question i asked snail
what is the abomination of desolation that Jesus refered to as a future event?
what was the first fulfillment of the abomination of desolation?
if you dont know ask Yosef
what is the abomination of desolation that Jesus refered to as a future event?
what was the first fulfillment of the abomination of desolation?
if you dont know ask Yosef
Matthew 23:34-39.." Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. 37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!' "
38 See! Your house is left to you desolate;
a very important key in understanding Matthew 24 and the abomination of desolation. The 3 factions of Jews starving one another and killing one another and spilling blood throughout the City AND The Temple (see Josephus wars of the Jews).. not to mention the final culmination of the Roman armies trampling City and Temple underfoot made for a "complete" and "utter destruction".
Search to see if such things are so.
Beloved.
In Christ,
David John (NewJerusalem)
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i will ask you the same question i asked snail
what is the abomination of desolation that Jesus refered to as a future event?
what was the first fulfillment of the abomination of desolation?
if you dont know ask Yosef
what is the abomination of desolation that Jesus refered to as a future event?
what was the first fulfillment of the abomination of desolation?
if you dont know ask Yosef
I am interested in what "Yosef" has to say. I wasn't aware that Yosef was all knowing.
Thank you
S
if it says 'hand or forehead', wouldnt that imply a physical representation of the mark for people to see, because it will set apart those who have it from those who don't... i believe taking that literal would apply here.. then you also have the 144,000 who have a seal on their foreheads...maybe we need to look at all other examples in the bible where a person had a 'mark'... ie: Cain...