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Oh my dagallen, you are really misunderstanding not only me but the Scriptures. I am "NOT AND I MEAN NOT" trying to prove the Trinity, I could care less about the Trinity in this coversation. I am proving to you by the Scriptures that Jesus Christ is God because you made the claim that Jesus Christ was not God.
So when I gave you these verses: "Hers's anothe example. Isaiah 43:11, "I, even I, am the Lord; AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." Luke 2:11, "For today in the city of David there has been born for you A SAVIOR WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD." I can give you many examples of this like when it says at Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of host; I AM THE FIRST AND I AM THE LAST, AND THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME." and ask you to read them carefully and ask God to give you understanding as to what they mean, you blew by making this about the Trinity.
Since God said there is no Savior but Him at Isaiah 43:11 and the New Testament at Luke 2:11 identifies Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior does that mean in your mind there are now two Savior's or is there only one Savior?
The same thing applies at Isaiah 44:6 when God says He is the first and the last why does Jesus Christ say He is the first and last at Revelation at 1:8, Revelation 1:17,18 and at Revelation 22:12,20. There cannot be two "First and last or two "Alpha and Omega's" Quit trying to set little traps or "gottcha" questions? Please deal with what is written.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
So when I gave you these verses: "Hers's anothe example. Isaiah 43:11, "I, even I, am the Lord; AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." Luke 2:11, "For today in the city of David there has been born for you A SAVIOR WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD." I can give you many examples of this like when it says at Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of host; I AM THE FIRST AND I AM THE LAST, AND THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME." and ask you to read them carefully and ask God to give you understanding as to what they mean, you blew by making this about the Trinity.
Since God said there is no Savior but Him at Isaiah 43:11 and the New Testament at Luke 2:11 identifies Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior does that mean in your mind there are now two Savior's or is there only one Savior?
The same thing applies at Isaiah 44:6 when God says He is the first and the last why does Jesus Christ say He is the first and last at Revelation at 1:8, Revelation 1:17,18 and at Revelation 22:12,20. There cannot be two "First and last or two "Alpha and Omega's" Quit trying to set little traps or "gottcha" questions? Please deal with what is written.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
D
Oh my dagallen, you are really misunderstanding not only me but the Scriptures. I am "NOT AND I MEAN NOT" trying to prove the Trinity, I could care less about the Trinity in this coversation. I am proving to you by the Scriptures that Jesus Christ is God because you made the claim that Jesus Christ was not God.
So when I gave you these verses: "Hers's anothe example. Isaiah 43:11, "I, even I, am the Lord; AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." Luke 2:11, "For today in the city of David there has been born for you A SAVIOR WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD." I can give you many examples of this like when it says at Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of host; I AM THE FIRST AND I AM THE LAST, AND THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME." and ask you to read them carefully and ask God to give you understanding as to what they mean, you blew by making this about the Trinity.
Since God said there is no Savior but Him at Isaiah 43:11 and the New Testament at Luke 2:11 identifies Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior does that mean in your mind there are now two Savior's or is there only one Savior?
The same thing applies at Isaiah 44:6 when God says He is the first and the last why does Jesus Christ say He is the first and last at Revelation at 1:8, Revelation 1:17,18 and at Revelation 22:12,20. There cannot be two "First and last or two "Alpha and Omega's" Quit trying to set little traps or "gottcha" questions? Please deal with what is written.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
So when I gave you these verses: "Hers's anothe example. Isaiah 43:11, "I, even I, am the Lord; AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." Luke 2:11, "For today in the city of David there has been born for you A SAVIOR WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD." I can give you many examples of this like when it says at Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of host; I AM THE FIRST AND I AM THE LAST, AND THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME." and ask you to read them carefully and ask God to give you understanding as to what they mean, you blew by making this about the Trinity.
Since God said there is no Savior but Him at Isaiah 43:11 and the New Testament at Luke 2:11 identifies Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior does that mean in your mind there are now two Savior's or is there only one Savior?
The same thing applies at Isaiah 44:6 when God says He is the first and the last why does Jesus Christ say He is the first and last at Revelation at 1:8, Revelation 1:17,18 and at Revelation 22:12,20. There cannot be two "First and last or two "Alpha and Omega's" Quit trying to set little traps or "gottcha" questions? Please deal with what is written.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
This is such a PATHETIC response, it is simply laughable.
Anyone who has any knowledge of the New Testament will immediately see that it was not necessary to say "God the Father" since that is complete obvious throughout the NT. The same applies to the Son. Completely obvious. Perhaps a little less obvious as regards the Holy Spirit, but still there. So now you have shown your true colors, and had Scripture said what you wanted, you still would not have believed, but found another excuse. The only problem is that you a treading on extremely thin ice.
Anyone who has any knowledge of the New Testament will immediately see that it was not necessary to say "God the Father" since that is complete obvious throughout the NT. The same applies to the Son. Completely obvious. Perhaps a little less obvious as regards the Holy Spirit, but still there. So now you have shown your true colors, and had Scripture said what you wanted, you still would not have believed, but found another excuse. The only problem is that you a treading on extremely thin ice.
D
Thin ice, what a foolish thing to say. Yes God is made clear throughout but no where does it say, God the Son, instead it just says the Son, just as it does not say God the Holy Spirit. God the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God and the Son is one Jesus Christ. So why don't you reply to John 14:24 I have posted it many times but no reply from anyone, why is that ? Because it doesn't fit a lot of people's belief.
This has been explained to you dagallen about 6 or 7 times now not only by me but by others. Why do you think we keep giving you Philippians 2:5-10? Jesus was in the form of God before He incarnated as a man. I told you at Philippains 2:6 it sayy, "who (meaning Jesus Christ), although (which means in spite of the fact) He/Jesus Christ existed as God emptied Himself of His preogatives or privileges that He had as God, He then took another form which was that of a human being.
And as a human being He subjected Himself to His Father just lke we are suppose to do as Christians. This is why He spoke the words of His Father because as was told you Jesus subjected Himself to the Father's will. John 1:18 says, "No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, HE/JESUS HAS EXPLAINED HIM."
Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach. Then we get down to the verse you quoted at John 14:24 where Jesus says the words are not His but His Father's. There are His Father's words because Jesus Christ (like it says at John 1:18 which I quoted) is in the bosom of the Father.
That word "bosom" refers to the truth of His deity of all that God is. Or to put it another way close to the Father's heart or in intimate presence of the Father. You have to know that you cannot just pull out a verse without considering what the verse means within it's context or in the context of other verses. After verse 24 what does Jesus say?
At John 14:26 Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." I want you to notice something else in this chapter especially if a person like you and many others who do not believe Jesus is God. John 14:23, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, AND WE WILL COME TO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODEWITH HIM."
So how is it possible for Jesus Christ if you bewlieve He is a man can live in other human beings? Plus the fact that Jesus already knows that His crucifixation is going to take place and He will be resurrected so what does He say? He says at vs26 that the Holy Spirit will be sent into your hearts to help teach you. So what you have here is both the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.
IN GOD THE SON,
blluto
And as a human being He subjected Himself to His Father just lke we are suppose to do as Christians. This is why He spoke the words of His Father because as was told you Jesus subjected Himself to the Father's will. John 1:18 says, "No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, HE/JESUS HAS EXPLAINED HIM."
Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach. Then we get down to the verse you quoted at John 14:24 where Jesus says the words are not His but His Father's. There are His Father's words because Jesus Christ (like it says at John 1:18 which I quoted) is in the bosom of the Father.
That word "bosom" refers to the truth of His deity of all that God is. Or to put it another way close to the Father's heart or in intimate presence of the Father. You have to know that you cannot just pull out a verse without considering what the verse means within it's context or in the context of other verses. After verse 24 what does Jesus say?
At John 14:26 Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." I want you to notice something else in this chapter especially if a person like you and many others who do not believe Jesus is God. John 14:23, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, AND WE WILL COME TO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODEWITH HIM."
So how is it possible for Jesus Christ if you bewlieve He is a man can live in other human beings? Plus the fact that Jesus already knows that His crucifixation is going to take place and He will be resurrected so what does He say? He says at vs26 that the Holy Spirit will be sent into your hearts to help teach you. So what you have here is both the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.
IN GOD THE SON,
blluto
M
It tells you in Job that it was the angels. Job 38:4- Where was thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?...
7- When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
So God is telling Job that the angels were with him, so when he says let us make man in our image, it's clear
that is who he is talking to, they were the ones with him. You can't say that angels don't have the image of God
when the word tells us they do. Psalms 104:4- Who maketh his angels spirits...
And God himself who is a Spirit as Jesus said in John 4:24. Therefore God makes them a Spirit as he himself is.
Therefore now it should be easier to understand when he says let us make man in our image, that he is indeed
speaking to the angels, when they themselves are in his image, and were created before man.
D
This has been explained to you dagallen about 6 or 7 times now not only by me but by others. Why do you think we keep giving you Philippians 2:5-10? Jesus was in the form of God before He incarnated as a man. I told you at Philippains 2:6 it sayy, "who (meaning Jesus Christ), although (which means in spite of the fact) He/Jesus Christ existed as God emptied Himself of His preogatives or privileges that He had as God, He then took another form which was that of a human being.
And as a human being He subjected Himself to His Father just lke we are suppose to do as Christians. This is why He spoke the words of His Father because as was told you Jesus subjected Himself to the Father's will. John 1:18 says, "No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, HE/JESUS HAS EXPLAINED HIM."
Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach. Then we get down to the verse you quoted at John 14:24 where Jesus says the words are not His but His Father's. There are His Father's words because Jesus Christ (like it says at John 1:18 which I quoted) is in the bosom of the Father.
That word "bosom" refers to the truth of His deity of all that God is. Or to put it another way close to the Father's heart or in intimate presence of the Father. You have to know that you cannot just pull out a verse without considering what the verse means within it's context or in the context of other verses. After verse 24 what does Jesus say?
At John 14:26 Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." I want you to notice something else in this chapter especially if a person like you and many others who do not believe Jesus is God. John 14:23, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, AND WE WILL COME TO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODEWITH HIM."
So how is it possible for Jesus Christ if you bewlieve He is a man can live in other human beings? Plus the fact that Jesus already knows that His crucifixation is going to take place and He will be resurrected so what does He say? He says at vs26 that the Holy Spirit will be sent into your hearts to help teach you. So what you have here is both the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.
IN GOD THE SON,
blluto
And as a human being He subjected Himself to His Father just lke we are suppose to do as Christians. This is why He spoke the words of His Father because as was told you Jesus subjected Himself to the Father's will. John 1:18 says, "No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, HE/JESUS HAS EXPLAINED HIM."
Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach. Then we get down to the verse you quoted at John 14:24 where Jesus says the words are not His but His Father's. There are His Father's words because Jesus Christ (like it says at John 1:18 which I quoted) is in the bosom of the Father.
That word "bosom" refers to the truth of His deity of all that God is. Or to put it another way close to the Father's heart or in intimate presence of the Father. You have to know that you cannot just pull out a verse without considering what the verse means within it's context or in the context of other verses. After verse 24 what does Jesus say?
At John 14:26 Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." I want you to notice something else in this chapter especially if a person like you and many others who do not believe Jesus is God. John 14:23, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, AND WE WILL COME TO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODEWITH HIM."
So how is it possible for Jesus Christ if you bewlieve He is a man can live in other human beings? Plus the fact that Jesus already knows that His crucifixation is going to take place and He will be resurrected so what does He say? He says at vs26 that the Holy Spirit will be sent into your hearts to help teach you. So what you have here is both the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.
IN GOD THE SON,
blluto
D
He is the Son who is God like, Yes ! John 12:49-50 For I have not spoken of myself but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting, what so ever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. John 14:24 and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's which sent me.
john 3:16-18 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
john 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."
1 corinthians 8:6 "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
john 3:33-36 "He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
John 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name"
matthew 16:13-17 " He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven."
1 john 5:1-5 "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?"
john 6:68-69 "Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
1 john 5:9-12 "If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
matthew 3:17 "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Mark 9:5-7"And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."
2 peter 1:16-18 "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount."
Hebrews 4:14-15 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
james 1;13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."
ephesians 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1 john 4:9 "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
romans 1:1-3 ".... the gospel of God,..Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures, Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Hebrews 1:1-6 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
matthew 14 :33 "Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
mark 14:61-62 "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
(referencing)
daniel 7:13-14 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."
Luke 1:30-33 "And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. ( see daniel 7 scriptures above)
The simplicity of the Bible is that God Sent His one and Only begotten Son, that whosever Believes in Him, might be called the children of God and Have eternal Life. its the entire purpose of the Bible, Gods Will is that We Honor His only begotten Son Jesus who is the Christ.if you think of when a Father Has a Son, the Son was in thier Father, when they are concieved and Born, they are of thier Father, But we then understand the Son is the Son, the Father remains the Father, and they share the same spirit.
the great part is that we too through the Son, receive the spirit of the Father and are called Children along side Him.
romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1 john 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1 john 4:9-15 "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.No man hath seen God at any time. ( this is John who walked and talked with Jesus written about 40 years after Jesus was taken to Heaven) If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
its very simple bro, you are right Jesus is the Son of God, the Promised Christ from ages ago. Ive never understood the issue with the truth that God sent His Onlu begotten Son. its the Bibles clear and loud message for all to Hear.
John 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
john 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."
1 corinthians 8:6 "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
john 3:33-36 "He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
John 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name"
matthew 16:13-17 " He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven."
1 john 5:1-5 "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?"
john 6:68-69 "Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
1 john 5:9-12 "If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
matthew 3:17 "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Mark 9:5-7"And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."
2 peter 1:16-18 "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount."
Hebrews 4:14-15 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
james 1;13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."
ephesians 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1 john 4:9 "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
romans 1:1-3 ".... the gospel of God,..Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures, Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Hebrews 1:1-6 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
matthew 14 :33 "Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
mark 14:61-62 "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
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daniel 7:13-14 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."
Luke 1:30-33 "And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. ( see daniel 7 scriptures above)
The simplicity of the Bible is that God Sent His one and Only begotten Son, that whosever Believes in Him, might be called the children of God and Have eternal Life. its the entire purpose of the Bible, Gods Will is that We Honor His only begotten Son Jesus who is the Christ.if you think of when a Father Has a Son, the Son was in thier Father, when they are concieved and Born, they are of thier Father, But we then understand the Son is the Son, the Father remains the Father, and they share the same spirit.
the great part is that we too through the Son, receive the spirit of the Father and are called Children along side Him.
romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1 john 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1 john 4:9-15 "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.No man hath seen God at any time. ( this is John who walked and talked with Jesus written about 40 years after Jesus was taken to Heaven) If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
its very simple bro, you are right Jesus is the Son of God, the Promised Christ from ages ago. Ive never understood the issue with the truth that God sent His Onlu begotten Son. its the Bibles clear and loud message for all to Hear.
All power given to Jesus by whom?
The father (God) The son (of God) and God's Active Force.
Of course Jesus would be with (Them) he was not going to be dispensed with.
(Matthew 15:14) This is what you are doing, as many also are blind to the truth.
God's name is Jehovah, He alone, is the almighty invisible God.
The father (God) The son (of God) and God's Active Force.
Of course Jesus would be with (Them) he was not going to be dispensed with.
(Matthew 15:14) This is what you are doing, as many also are blind to the truth.
God's name is Jehovah, He alone, is the almighty invisible God.
LOL I thought you just quoted Scripture and didn't interpret it?
The word 'angel' means messenger. A messenger only has the authority of the one who sends the message for that message only.
Of course angels were made 'in the image of God, as were men. It simply meant that they were imbued with the means of knowing God and talking with Him. They, like both God and men, had spirits.
The word 'angel' means messenger. A messenger only has the authority of the one who sends the message for that message only.
Of course angels were made 'in the image of God, as were men. It simply meant that they were imbued with the means of knowing God and talking with Him. They, like both God and men, had spirits.