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He is the ONLY SON. Therefore He is not godlike, He is God. (You were interpreting again? LOL)
Yes the Father sent the SON, the ONLY Son, and He bore witness to the Father. Notice 'He gave Me command as to what I should speak'. No one else could say that. Only the One Who was in direct communication with His Father.
But as man living on earth He pointed to His source in Heaven.
Yes the Father sent the SON, the ONLY Son, and He bore witness to the Father. Notice 'He gave Me command as to what I should speak'. No one else could say that. Only the One Who was in direct communication with His Father.
But as man living on earth He pointed to His source in Heaven.
Originally Posted by Dagallen
Yeshua the Father who sent the Savior in his name, Yeshua, Yeshua the son was sent. At a later point Yeshua the son was changed to Yeshuwah, the wah is where the word was came from in old text meaning, Yeshua the Savior who was sent.
You know dagallen, you just proved that you don't even read the post from us who are really trying to help you. Your now telling me and I quote, "but Jesus is not the Father," You also are saying that I'm saying something different than what the text is saying which means you are accusing me of saying that Jesus Christ is the Father.
This is what I said in my post, and I even used big letters so you would not misunderstand what I said. "Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach."
Did I not say, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" and then I said, "This 'DOES NOT" MEAN THAT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD THE FATHER." In short, you don't even read these post, you just react to them because you are so deceived and blinded that the facts don't mean anything to you.
It's just like you saying the apostles never said Jesus was God and then when it is proven that you were wrong you just ignore it and continue walking on your way still blind and deceived.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
This is what I said in my post, and I even used big letters so you would not misunderstand what I said. "Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of God and this is why at John 14:9 He says, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." This "DOES NOT" mean that Jesus Christ is God the Father like the oneness pentecostals teach."
Did I not say, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" and then I said, "This 'DOES NOT" MEAN THAT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD THE FATHER." In short, you don't even read these post, you just react to them because you are so deceived and blinded that the facts don't mean anything to you.
It's just like you saying the apostles never said Jesus was God and then when it is proven that you were wrong you just ignore it and continue walking on your way still blind and deceived.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
John 14:24 cannot contradict anything else that is in Scripture. So let's see what it REALLY says in light of ALL Scripture.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
This is totally consistent with these verses in the same chapter:
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Now did you take note of what is stated above? Jesus is in the Father, and the Father is in Him. So the words He spoke were from the Father who was within the Son, and yet they were the words of Christ. But the Son is also within the Father. How do we *explain* the Mystery of God? We do not. We simply believe it, and now that you know why the words of Jesus were the words of the Father, you must sincerely repent. Unless the Godhead is three Divine Persons, none of this could be reconciled.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
This is totally consistent with these verses in the same chapter:
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Now did you take note of what is stated above? Jesus is in the Father, and the Father is in Him. So the words He spoke were from the Father who was within the Son, and yet they were the words of Christ. But the Son is also within the Father. How do we *explain* the Mystery of God? We do not. We simply believe it, and now that you know why the words of Jesus were the words of the Father, you must sincerely repent. Unless the Godhead is three Divine Persons, none of this could be reconciled.
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I am in the Father and the Father is in me ? That doesn't mean the son is the Father himself, just as it does not mean the Father is the son himself. When one receives the Holy Spirit, the presence of the Holy Spirit dwell within, does that make them Jesus himself, does that make them God them self ? What he heard his Father speak, so he spoke with his own voice, does that mean people who heard the voice of Jesus, heard the voice of God himself ?
This prof has a bunch of great lectures on his youtube channel covering a wide range of Church history. Unbiased and straight-forward.
Ryan M. Reeves (PhD Cambridge) is Assistant Professor of Historical Theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.
[video=youtube;IlzM7LogGRU]https://youtu.be/IlzM7LogGRU[/video]
Professor Ryan Reeves channel, 179 lectures >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrI5U0R293u9uveijefKyAA
Ryan M. Reeves (PhD Cambridge) is Assistant Professor of Historical Theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.
[video=youtube;IlzM7LogGRU]https://youtu.be/IlzM7LogGRU[/video]
Professor Ryan Reeves channel, 179 lectures >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrI5U0R293u9uveijefKyAA
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Who in the world has ever suggested that the Father is the Son or the Son is the Father? That is simply a red herring. What you need to grasp thoroughly is that the Godhead is a MYSTERY -- the Mystery of God. So no one can explain how the Father is in the Son or the Son is in the Father, or how the words of the Son are also the words of the Father and vice versa. Your basic problem is UNBELIEF.